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This board has welcomed people that are making clone cars. It's part of the hobby. If the owner is up front about it. Also it is aware of what is going on in the hobby. If a bogus car is being passed off as a real car and people give a warning as to its authenticity what's wrong with that. I am not going to waste my time chasing a fake. I have done plenty of that. This board has helped far more people than it has hurt. If you think you have a real car it is often determined right or wrong on this site. If someone has felt he had a Yenko, this site has helped to verify it. No charge ever. Try that somewere else. I hope that the Nickey car mentioned in this thread turns out to be real. Good things sometimes happen...BKH

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Hey Joe;
No go-go bars for me, but maybe we hit the SLP joint there in Toms River? I'd like an '02 Firehawk!
M

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Yenko Deuce Registry:
One of our Dlr clients just took a 1999 Firehawk on trade. Off the top of my head, its silver, 6 speed with T-tops 36,000 miles and used as a daily driver. They are asking $18,500.00. Just FYI.

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Muscle Car Jon - You should go to Camaros.net and read the posts from the gentlmen who owns the "68 Z" that is on Cars-on-line. He is not risking the slander charges, because he has consulted with his attorney on the subject, and from what I have read is close to reaching a successful end to his tribulations with "Golden Classics/Future Classics". If I remember correctly from discussions, he called this dealer after seeing the car posted, and the dealer represented the car as original and numbers matching. Only after paying the dealership for the vehicle and having it transported did he find out that it was not legit. Now, he should shoulder some of the blame for not inspecting the car before purchase, but the dealer shoulders even more of the blame for not representing the car for what it was.

As for the quality of this board. As one of those who can not afford one of the real versions of these cars right now, it is at least comforting to know that if I do find myself in a postion one of these days to afford one, that I have a resource by which to check on the pedigree of the vehicle in question. It is also a great forum to learn how to identify these cars. 99.9% of those on the board have been very helpful, and have put up with a lot of BS from people who know nothing of these cars. Without this resource, how many more "real" cars would be sold at inflated costs. The gentlemen who own these rare and desirable vehicles have no vested interest in distributing their knowledge of these vehicles. If we keep one another informed of questionable practices of dealers or private sellers, then maybe some of these clones will not be sold as original cars and maybe someone will be spared the heartache and trouble of finding out their car is one of the "original" numbers matching vehicles that were never made. Sorry for the rambling, but this board has been an immense help to me, and everyone has been very helpful over the last year in responding to my novice questions.

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Jon, I agree with Charley and Brian about what this board does. It helps more people for free than hurts them.

The owner of the car in question made a post that he could not verify the car as a legit Nickey. So he was emailed with the name and phone number of a guy that could help him get his car verified. A prospective buyer called instead, stating the seller told him that he could verify the car. Why do something like that when if it was a legit car the price would have gone up 100%? To me the owner knows this car is not a legit car and he took a chance that the prospective buyer would buy the car and spend the money himself to get it verified and would find out it was bogus. The seller gets his money and the buyer has a very nice Nickey clone for $40k.

By doing this the seller not only ruined the sale to this buyer but ruined his chances or anyones chances of ever getting the car looked at to be verified. The one guy that can verify a Nickey Camaro, and he verified the Nickey Camaro that was at this years reunion plus a couple of other Nickey cars, will not even talk to anyone about verifying this car at Future Classics. The seller has ruined it for anyone wanting this done. All he had to do was contact the person that he was told to and he would have been able to decide for himself whether to have the car verified. All he did was make the contact person mad.

So Jon, is this the way business should be done? The owner/seller of the car ruining a possible sale plus any chance of getting this car verified as a legit Nickey? To me this car is bogus until the guy comes up with legit paperwork that the car was converted to a 427 at Nickey originally and is verified by all previous owners and it will still be questionable because of its known history here...................RatPack................

[Edited by Rat_Pack (01-04-2002 at 01:12 PM).]

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I want to let all know that I did not contact anyone last night about my Nickey. I have consigned the car with Future Classics and have no dealings with any potional buyers.

I run a very busy company and do not have the time to play these games. This is why I am not handling the sale. This subject seems to keep going on and on... let's stop beating a dead horse. It is an excellent replica of a Nickey. I would appreciate anyone going to look at the car and verify it themselves. Please let me know what your findings are..

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HLZ;
The only person playing a game is you! This stuff about 'unreplaceably Nickey', tracing it back to Chicago, maybe it is/isn't, we're sure it's an original... - that's the game trying to be played on unsuspecting buyers. I'm sorry that it doesn't go over real big here on this sight.
You might ask Nick to change the description on his sight to 'NICKEY Replica'. Good luck with the sale.
M

http://www.futureclassicsnj.com/carlistframe.htm



[Edited by YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY (01-04-2002 at 03:05 PM).]

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Actually, I have called Future Classics regarding the add on web be changed to include "undocumented" Nickey.

I have been able to trace the title back to Chicago and feel this is a great lead to its originality.

How many replica Nickey's have you seen out there and how much do they sell for? How would you value a replica? Where would you place the value?

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Would someone be able to post the VIN for this car ? I know someone that may be able to help with the backround of the car.

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I just sold one that was a very nice car with T.I.,Alum heads,M-22,tach drive,elect fuel pump,p/db,p/s,L88 intake,cragars with Nickey emblems....for a lot less than 30k.It was capable of fooling people but it was always a clone and sold as such.

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Hey HLC ,
I did email ya in regards to your car . I think she's pretty sweet . You never even said thanks ?

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There are at least 4 of us in on this topic that are from the Chicagoland area.
Why not take advantage of our resources here and pass the past owner info and VIN# onto us,so we can follow up on its true History?
Maybe "Nick" isn't lying.Nickey Chevrolet did sell Regular Chevrolet cars as well. https://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

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I am not questioning the quality of this Camaro, only its legitamacey as a Nickey conversion. This car started life as an SS350 from the info on the trim tag. So whoever did the conversion to a big block did change all of the corresponding parts and did a nice job. With a little extra detailing under the hood this car could be made into a extremely nice Camaro no matter what its history is. It may not be getting a fair shake here because of the dealers history that is brokering it for the owner. I am guilty of it also. I say let someone do the legwork on finding out the original dealer and then take it from there............RatPack......................

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I could be wrong, but if this car was an SS-350 and the car was built by Nickey before the big block option was available, shouldn't it have a small block heater box? Just Curious.



Jason

[Edited by SuperNovaSS (01-05-2002 at 12:43 AM).]

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Jason, it should have the small block heater box, frame brackets, and fan shroud if it was built before the bb was available. However, the build date on this car is 06B, 2nd week of June 67 long after the bb was available from Chevrolet. This still does not rule out the car came from Nickey nor that it was not converted either. Just at some point during its life the car got all of the correct bb parts installed............RatPack..............

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Well HLC returned my email , a very nice one at that . Thanks bud good luck ,and happy new year : )

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I'm not too familiar with Nickey cars but wouldn't they have started with a big block if it was available. It seems it would be more profitable for Nickey to start with a big block car. Not only would all the parts be there for a quick swap, but they would have a big block to get rid of instead of a small block. This may be an obvious observation but like I said I don't know much about Nickey cars.


Jason

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Jon,

First of all I donÃt remember being overly critical of Future Classics business practices in any of my posts. Secondly, I can assure you that any comment I did make about Future Classics was NOT inspired by jealousy of the cars they have on their lot! I own a œmid to later 70's NOVA” (Ã72 Nova SS) and even though itÃs œnot even a car from the best era of the muscle cars” I enjoy owning and driving my Nova and that is what this hobby is about. I have not been Future Classics in a while because I felt there was no need to go back.

Marlin,

Sure, IÃm up for a daytrip. When to you want to go?

Mike




[Edited by MikeA (01-05-2002 at 10:04 PM).]

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Jason, yes that is true it was easier to do that. From all of the info I know that is what was done once the 396 became available. All they did was swap out the short block for a 427 if a customer wanted it. Now some cars got aluminum heads, aftermarket intakes, different carbs, some with dual 4bbls, headers, traction bars both the single bar like Bill Thomas made and the Lakewood bars, it was whatever the customer wanted. Not all cars were built like the two or three test cars with the yellow engines and dual 4's. Most were base L72 transplants and the engines were orange.

Like I said earlier, it is possible if this car came from Nickey that this bb conversion was done but it is very unlikely due to the costs involved and the fact it was built after the 396 was available. However if they did, it is very doubtful that they would have changed all of the parts to the correct bb items as I stated above.

I have talked to guys that built these cars and there were no two cars alike. This follows suit with a Motion car, there is no such thing as standard except they were all fast.............RatPack...............

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Thanks for the valuable info.


Jason

[Edited by SuperNovaSS (01-05-2002 at 11:19 PM).]

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nickey is such a rare word around here it certainly gets alot of attention. any whereabouts of a big block nickey, i've seen a picture of a beautiful purple/black vinyl top car in one of the muscle car magazines that is gorgeous. other than that don't know where to start. this seems to be the place, by the way , not a clone!

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I'm not aware of any documented Nickey cars that have been featured in magazines yet. Some cars represented as "Nickeys" have been, but, if anybody knows differently, please share.

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i stand to be corrected, it was in a camaro musclecar book.

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There is a Nickey Camaro feature car on this site that has an interesting history
https://www.yenko.net/features/2000/November2000.htm

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Doug Marion wrote in Super Chevy years ago that Nickey sold quite a few 396/425 and L-72 Impalas and Biscaynes in 1965 and 1966.Although they were not as rare as the conversion cars,they were still pretty scarce.

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JoeC..That car is really ugly..Not sure why the owner doesn't unload it....To me.

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I will be in Chicago for the Vettefest and may be going to Sacramento for spring break right after that. I could drive it cross country for you if you want?

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Charley, maybe he will swap it for your blue 67 convertible with the replacement engine and the funny grab handles.

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I'm afraid he couldn't handle all the Power. Thats why it has grab handles. Now if he were to throw in a Jack Douglas Yenko Clone car we might get somewhere. :-)

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Oh, O.K. Sounds like a good deal to me. Where can I deliver them. LOL, now go find your own! They're a dime a dozen here in Chicagoland.

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just ran across this post and it reminded me of a 67 I saw a few times this summer at berger king in glen bernie MD.
it was maroon with black interoir,big block ,
painted yellow with 3X2's on it and had nicky emblems .
this car was really clean and straight don't know if it was real but it's not too far from NJ .

just thought I'd give my thoughts

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Just pak them out in the north 40 next to his water truck !

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Hey HLZ;
I went down to Future Classics and checked out your Nicky camaro.Sharp car and the salesman explained you got the car as a replica and that is how you are selling it as well.Hey Deuce that 71 chevelle is it light green? A kid in my car club has a 71 chevelle that his parents bought him from Golden at the time.Car is real nice 71 402 with A/C Kid loves the car,small world! No "GO Go's" deuce? There is a blue oyster bar down there.HLZ good luck with your car!

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Hmmmm https://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/crazy.gif

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Astroturf?
n. ORIGINAL: artificial grass
n. CURRENT: Artificially manufactured movement designed to give the appearance of grass roots.
COMMENTARY: Astroturf is the creation of the modern public relations industry. It is typically used by corporations to create the appearance of legitimacy for an unpopular position, and thereby stifle opposition or prevent corrective change.

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Let me get this straight...Benny's are flocking to NJ in the summer to buy Astroturf ?