The post is still up correct? As I stated previously if the owner of car needs contact info I will provide. You can post in any forum except classified. The owner of the car was contacted via this site. If Greg just posted he had a copo engine and would love to reunite that wouldn't be an issue. when he put it for sale at $48k and made a few snarky coments refusing to become a paid member, that is crossing the line. Imho

Quick question as I’m not well versed on COPO stuff.
If the owner of the COPO car that this engine came out of doesn't want the COPO engine for 40k,
why would anyone else pay such a large sum of money for it?
In other words what’s special about it other than the engine pad stamping?
For someone to build a tribute car?

I don’t think anyone else will pay that kind of money. It’s worth the most to be reunited with the car. Actually Id be willing to guess it’s worth the most to the guy who has it now. That’s usually the way it goes. If someone had a copo and wanted the next best thing to the original motor then they would go a route like this. Real copo motor or a CE copo motor. I doubt someone would invest that kind of money on a tribute, especially considering what tributes sell for compared to the ask here.

I realize you allowed his post. Kind of proves my point. These rare cars and parts posted here for us is more important than a one time payment of $30 for the site.

Guy did offer to make $100 Dollar donation if sold. He is only a middle man helping an elderly seller. Seemed fair.

I wonder how many folks would have posted thier rare car/part here for sale but could not, só they sold it else where. And we here lost the opportunity.

This site is not as ‘exclusive’ as it used to be. All the Yenko VINS are public for years now. Seller would most likely have gotten the same result if he posted on FB. Many of the ‘in the know’ folks are there also. I see Kurt S on FB all the time helping with info.

I’d bet that some of the sellers from FB that ended up with thier posts eventually copied here, may have tried to sell here first… so we lost the opportunity to buy first.

BTW, I think it was great when you ( the site) added the “FB and other for sale category!!

I respectfully think you should rethink the “No want ad posts at all if not a member” policy .

Appreciate all you do and this site !! Cheers

Was the VIN on the block found? How was the owner of the car contacted if the VIN on the block was not found?

My understanding is it was known that the engine came out of a silver automatic COPO. This COPO is silver automatic, and has a POP which matches the engine assembly date. To definitively determine the engine VIN needs to be verified. And the story continues....

Im no expert when it comes to these rare cars but if we haven’t seen the vin yet how do we know exactly what car it came out of ? If my memory serves Right didn’t Morrolis Chevrolet on Gratiot Ave have a silver copo stolen off their lot that was never recovered?

Yes and this is the engine from that car……..maybe?

Correct!
I'm assuming you meant VIN not vintage.
This is what I stated previously:
"To definitively determine the engine VIN needs to be verified."

I am glad the guy is gone….we have all wasted $30 He should have shown up with hat in hand and without arrogance. Maybe if the gentleman that has the car and I hope that it is his motor will feel generous to donate $30 because of finding his engine through the site.

Two ZL-1 Camaros were stolen from Merollis Chevrolet; one was a silver 4-speed. The car was recovered.

Not the same car.

I fully agree with Steve. You want to get the $$$ out of the engine, but can't spend the $30.00 or didn't want to unless the engine sells?

This engine is only "worth" what someone will pay for it. And it's only special to the matching cars VIN. Other then that, it's your typical run-of-the-mill 427 with maybe a extra $500/$1000 for possibly being a COPO engine.

As it sits, I wouldn't give him $10K for it. Now some may feel it's worth a bit more if it's close to there original engine build date or whatever. But what would it add value wise to the original car? $30k, $50K? Plus you have to freshen it up and see if everything is still usable and in good shape? Is it bore .125 over already?????

I agree with EZ Nova, as soon as I seen it on Facebook I messaged him and suggested he should adjust the price to a realist number and he might sell it. I also agree that 10k is that number.

It's not the op's engine so why would he want to fork out $30? The op was just trying to help out a friend that isn't on the internet. Shame on the op for trying to help a guy out....

Doesn’t matter. He can’t walk into a swap meet and just set up a table because he’s helping a friend out. Can I see both sides of this coin sure. But I wouldn’t want to be the owner of the car that has to negotiate on an item the owner already values at 3-4x its actual value and won’t pay $30 to advertise it. And on the flip side I’m not ripping a perfectly good motor out of my car and then having to replace it with another motor and all the work that goes along with that unless it’s lucrative to do so

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Great when any Factory Stamping Original HiPo Engine surfaces, especially when car known/existing!
10-thou seems right on but whatever the #, hopefully both seller & buyer can make it happen.
Otherwise, lots of great points from all sides but OP starting w/ a for sale thread indeed what set things off also other than not wanting to buck up, his postings seemed reasonable and he did offer the C-note when prompted…so, bummer the way things ended up but best we learn from the experience if possible?
As others have noted, we don’t want to miss one-time posters w/ parts/info to share so all being as simple as possible important also considering age of many who lived these cars new, easily found help posting comments/questions/pictures etc.
Best of luck to subject buyer and seller also long live the sYc!:headbang:
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~ Pete

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My take?
If the old guy with the COPO engine can figure out basic “Facebook stuff” he can figure out how to pay Steve the $30 bucks to advertise on this site.

I hope someone comes back and lets us know if a deal was made and if it actually was reunited with the car, or at least if the VIN was found.

The seller (older gentleman) is very well versed and capable of advertising and selling the engine. When I spoke to him, I did end up offering him 10k for the engine. It has none of the correct COPO items on it and the value is in the block imo. He seemed insulted. I asked about 20k and he said it wasn't worth his time to sell it for 20k. I finally asked about him selling the vette with the engine in it. it's a 69 427 car with NO documentation as a 427 car. He stated for 75k or better he would sell the car with the engine. I wouldn't waste your time unless it's the original engine for your car.

If I owned the car and this engine is original to I would have no problem spending 20k. If it was built close but not original to the car 10k. Be patient and bet it works out.

If someone owns the car it's a find of a lifetime.

I think the guy who posted it here on the site definitely got some value for the seller, Kurt posted it could be Kevin S's COPO pretty early on.

I hope the engine matches to a car out there.

I can remember 15 years ago, someone on this site selling just the bare block for a COPO for $10k. And he had a couple of them for sale if I remember correctly.

So I personally don’t think $20k for the original motor to a COPO is out of the realm.

Kurt

I've been speaking with Greg through Facebook about the motor and it looks like he has made contact with the current owner of the Camaro and hopefully the two will be re-united soon. Greg recognizes that they couldn't have done it without the help of this site, and he hopes his ban can be lifted so that he can make a donation and potentially share a few details.

I was correct - it's from Kevin's car.

Kurt, great detective work! Thanks!!!

Greg is no longer banned. Look forward to seeing a happy ending with engine reunited with car!

Thank you for that.

I won't be around much if at all once this deal is done but I still plan on donating as promised. As Mike said I really couldn't have done it without the help I received from connections made at this site, and even though a member is not involved in buying the engine he is still part of the broader COPO community and I'll be happy to contribute to your guys' site in appreciation for the conversation. Sorry that I went about it the wrong way. I'm sure my buddy will be happy with the deal and even though I asked for nothing in return I'll just submit an invoice for reimbursement and I'm sure he won't mind obliging :laugh:

Kurt was correct in his early assumption and I applaud him for that. The name did not mean anything to me at the time and I just kept plugging along. Once I got the VIN and could dig further I was able to speak with Brad McAdam who confirmed that it was a car that Bruce Eilenberger had owned and sold to Kevin years ago. Another source I found had been collecting Berger VIN's for decades and also had Kevin as the owner. I spoke directly to Kevin and forwarded him the block VIN photo I had taken. I gave him my buddies info and said that was it for my part of this.

I will update again when something happens. Unfortunately I will not be able to reveal how much it will be sold for, because I will not know as it is none of my business. Thanks again for lifting the ban and putting up with my shenanigans. Never thought it would have turned out this engine was for such a well known car. It's like the best-case-scenario for my friend and I am happy for him. The world works in mysterious ways...

I’m glad it all worked out, the money involved is not important, what’s important is the block will be united with the car.

Agreed.

He asked for my help to sell the engine and I said we can do better than that. Had a good feeling from the start that this could have a happy ending.

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So great things worked out for everyone also Tim’s right on above w/ the $ not important.
Welcome aboard Greg also thanks for your part of another lost Copo engine finding its way home!
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~ Pete

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This is great news, glad to see that forum members were able to put the parties together.

Hi Greg,

Thank you for the donation. I am going to donate $50 (half the $100 donation) to the CRG website/ Kurt S., because he was instrumental making this happen.

Thanks, and glad it worked out!!!!

So did Kevin get his motor? Did I miss that part? Hope so !

My old car. Last week Kevin told me that he they’re talking. ��

Yes I know they have spoken at least once but I have no specifics. Neither seems in a hurry but I know Vic sustained a little storm damage recently as our area has gotten pounded with a few rounds of bad storms the last couple weeks.

Fingers crossed for a happy ending!

Holy cow it's been 3 months and these guys finally worked out a deal. Long story short they both have had personal issues this summer causing delays. Kevin even admitted at one point that he forgot about it for about a month. That's how busy he has been.

A verbal agreement was reached yesterday so still some things to sort out. I work in shipping so once the payment has been received I will strap it to a pallet and send it off to the West Coast to be reunited with it's body.

I am pleased to have been a part of this reunion. Hope to maybe even see the car one day...

I will update again once the deal is done. Thanks again to everyone that helped.

$25k