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Pete , nice work on posting the ads
here is one from Youngstown Chevyland for a Yenko 427 Nova Lemans blue , vinyl top, 4:10 gear |
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The Nutmeg Metallic car is a root beer color but I believe that car was sold new with an L78. It was restored by the Supercar Workshop and last I knew was in a museum in Florida. It was restored as an L78 car and as far as I know there was no documentation that it was a 427 transplant car.
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I believe that the Nutmeg Nova was on this list of 37 cars transfered to the Yenko Sports Car, Company, but it was sold as a stock L78 and later converted by Warren Dernosheck at his home garage. A stinger hood was added when restored. There has without question been L78 Novas ordered and sold by Yenko which were not on the list of the "37" cars. As Pete suggested, since it is known that Fencil Tuffo recieved one Yellow left over 1969 Yenko Nova when they became a Yenko Deuce Dealer for 1970. It would certainly be possible that the same thing happened with Dale as they also sold Yenko Deuces. |
1969 Yenko Nova
So how could you verify for sure it’s a real 427 conversion? Only the Yenko paperwork could ?
Apparently the owner doesn’t have any docs . |
But he might be able to trace back the ownership and luck into some documentation like some folks have.
So at this point it's likely to be an L78 but maybe a transplant car right? |
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Yep, solid backtracking also good luck and prayers may reveal the truth but could take years. Eyeballs inspection necessary but all in so far, seems a good chance it was one of the 427 cars but being a Yenko delivered L78 Nova also on the probable conversion list, definitely worth aquiring for a fair # if a fella had the opportunity to step up. Any chance Warren may have info on this one to share? :beers: ~ Pete . |
Would a non converted car that was sold as a L78 have all the emblems on it?
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The Yenko crest was used on some unmodified Yenko sold cars.
I have seen it on some Yenko sold Corvettes and Z/28s and other cars. It is not clear if Yenko used the crest as a normal dealer emblem. It may have been used as a bare emblem. I have seen it bare and have seen it painted with different styles of paint on the crest also seen it on Yenko race cars and on Don's personal cars. I don't think the Nutmeg Firemist Metallic 1969 Yenko Nova is on the Vince E. 37 list because some articles called it the 38 th Yenko L78 Nova. Warren D. had a lot of paperwork and history on the car if I remember correctly here is the Nutmeg Firemist Metallic 1969 Yenko Nova at the museum https://www.americanmusclecarmuseum....ova-yenko.html |
----I like this Nova as much as any Nova I have ever seen. What a great color combo!....Bill S
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It looks like this one has the holes for the 427 emblem
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The 396 cars had different emblem placement?
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This was the Gates car, according to the 2nd owner. The car was stolen in '71 and left in a river. This is the first time I'm sharing this image. It's hard to see, but there appears to be two emblems on the rear valance.
https://i.ibb.co/s10spTj/Screen-Shot...3-19-51-PM.png |
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I've found the owner of the Viking Camaro. He passed away in 2016. He also ran a Camaro known as Viking 2. He was out of Chicago.
Many times these drag cars (Viking, etc..) would be showcased in a dealership prior to an upcoming drag racing event. Yunker, Hult, Bob Johnson, Dale, and Broadway all sold Chev Supercars in '69 in Wisconsin. This event at Braeger could have been a showcase for a Great Lakes Dragway event. Many times drag cars sat on the showroom floor in the days prior to an upcoming drag racing event. The Nova could have been loaned to Braeger (or dealer traded) to drum up hi-po muscle car sales. A few years ago I was offered the Dale Chevrolet archive of invoices for 25K. I have no idea where they ended up. Quote:
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That seems to fit the narrative of it not having stripes.
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This Nova is said to have a BV 4:10 rear and most of the Yenko ads for the 427 Nova specify 4:10 gears.
This is something I was always curious about because the 1969 SS396 Nova power team chart does not list the 4:10 gear. 1969 Camaro and Chevelle SS396 power team chart does list the 4:10 gear but not SS 396 Nova With all the COPO and special orders that Yenko was able to get, I would think he could have got a COPO to get the 1969 Nova SS396 BV 4:10 rear. He may have got the BV but I have not seen anything on it. Would need to find a POP or paperwork from one of the 427 Novas that shows a BV. Some of the Yenko sold 1969 SS396 Novas have 3:55 gears. |
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Where is 'Yenko Deuce Registry' when you need him?
I believe 'Warren' added the Yenko badges to the Nutmeg Firemist Cadillac Color Nova, when he converted it. I don't recall ever seeing a non converted non race car having Yenko crest emblems installed at the dealership? The picture of the Viking Camaro and Nova appear to me to be a similar color and this color appears to be more Dusk Blue than the subject car which is Lemans Blue. The white stripes and overhead light reflections brighten up the color, but it still looks darker than Lemans Blue? |
The Lemans Blue question is a tough one....just from my own personal experience photographing my car, it can go from looking Glacier Blue to Dusk Blue depending on the lighting. Generally, inside my garage it always leans to the darker side of Lemans Blue, i.e. more Dusk Blue.
On the special paint Nova mentioned in this thread.....would Yenko have ordered a special paint car for conversion? Or are we assuming that a customer ordered a car for conversion and asked for the special paint? |
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Any updates?
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Yes. The car is 100% an SYC. The current owner was getting married the week he put the car up on Facebook and hadn't had a chance to dig into it. This confirms it had stripes and in my opinion, puts to rest any claims that it's not the car in the photo.
https://i.ibb.co/6mJSYVP/306649664-1...41520346-n.jpg |
----Simply WOW!.....Bill S
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Amazing! Who would have thought 53 years ago that a car like this would be discovered and cause so much excitement. How did a car like this stay underground for so long? I thought all the Yenko VIN's were title searched and scooped up by those in the know years ago? Can't wait to see what else comes out of the woodwork over the next 5-10 years as long term owners pass them on to friends and family when they're ready.
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Either way, the car was unregistered for longer than Wisconsin keeps records so it would have been impossible to find. The only way to find it would have been to follow the breadcrumbs from new. |
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Wisconsin goes back 10 yrs. only. I'm sure if someone at the DMV wanted, they can go back and check the microfilm for past history, but that's too much like work. I was lucky in North Carolina to have someone dig back in the microfilm on my 69 Z. Cost me only $10.00.
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Wow thanks for the update! I'm sure he's grateful for all the help he's got.
And I'm sure he has offers on the car. Hope to see it more as time goes on. |
This Nova story is full of holes. :)
There are holes for Yenko 427 emblems and Yenko crest emblems , and holes for the SW tach monitor all where you would expect to see them. Would be nice to find 427 paperwork for it. I told him to search the home and garage for paper work and photos |
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Here’s some more pictures that were on Facebook……
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Did I miss it or is the vin still top secret ?
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mrays said the vin is between 2 known cars it was posted
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I never saw the VIN, but the body number is between two known cars. Someone said the VIN was on the list of 69 Yenko Nova's on this site.
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