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1965 OEM Sound System
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Prehistoric compared to today’s high-tech systems.
#391 - Power Antenna #392 - Radio - Push Button #401 - Speaker - Rear Seat #393, which encompasses the 391 and 392 is shown on the “Car Billing History Card”. These rear Power Antennas are pretty scarce, as most cars were ordered with the manual antenna mounted on the front fender. The paper label on the antenna body reads, TENNA MFG. 9770160 AUG 27 ‘64 Check out the trunk spatter paint. Antenna works perfect and extends out to a whopping 54 inches. Both factory Delco speakers work great and show their part number and date codes inked on the magnets. The stapled together rear speaker enclosure is nice. Cool stuff from 56 years ago. Chris. |
just wow!
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1965 GTO "Unrestored Survivor"
WOW! I am so in love with this '65 GTO, and I am a die hard Chevy guy! Just simply phenominal! Too bad it is on the other side of the country for me to see it in person. Congrats and good luck with it! Don.
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Mass production flaws
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Factory overspray.
On an Unrestored Survivor automobile paint overspray is common and unique from car to car. The GTO in this thread received some sloppiness on the valve covers, especially the LH cover. I’m not sure what type of protective cover they set on top of the chrome valve covers when they spray the engine color, but this example is the worst I’ve ever seen. Check out the starter wire clip, on and off the cover. |
Those are amazing pictures, what a cool car.
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I finally got to meet this "Gorgeous Gal" in person this weekend, what a fantastic car this is!! She's just beautiful.
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Engine Bay Details
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“RADIATOR CAP”
The OEM Big Ear AC radiator cap. 1964 and early 1965 GTO shared the same cap in regard to the style of the 15# and AC font. The rivet was the recess (hollow) style. “RADIATOR TOP TANK” This radiator has never been rebuilt and still shows the White Ink Stamp (156) next to the radiator hose inlet. The “H” stamp in top tank designates August. Note, 1966 was the first year for the metal plate with the two letter code which clipped to the edge of tank. “FAN GUARD” The first usage of a Fan Guard on a GTO was 1965. The first 4 months (Aug. ~ Nov.) of production used a metal guard which had the back two rounded corners stamped flat. It seems this was an issue because of the closeness of the top radiator hose. That rounded corner on the guard was like a knife that could possibly cut into the hose. A change in the stamping of this guard happened sometime in the Nov. 64 build of 65’s. That right side rear of guard now had a turn down to alleviate that sharp edge. This revised guard continued through ‘66 and ‘67 even though the top radiator hose was now on the other side, but with much more clearance and not needing another new stamping. A couple of spare fan guards show the difference. |
Learning so much from this post, congratulations on acquiring such a piece of history!!
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Agree, what a special car! Thanks for sharing all the detailed pictures
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1965 Aluminum Fuel Line
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A follow up to post #28 in regard to the first design aluminum fuel line to carb.
This particular ‘65 GTO is a great reference showing several components used at all four factory’s in the early stages of the ‘65 build. This first design had (4 bends) and was installed for about the first 4 months Aug. through Nov. of the ‘65 build. The second design had (5 bends) and was installed for about 8 months from Dec. through July of the ‘65 build. 1966 4BBL. used a different line to the carburetor, mostly rubber hose. I show both designs below. |
Wire Wheel Disc ‘extension’.
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This ‘65 was ordered with the “wire wheel disc covers” which requires the valve extensions.
There were two of these 1-1/16” extensions in the console glove box when I purchased the car. Fortunately I was able to find a couple more of that design and length. Kelsey Hayes wheel information. 14 x 6 JK Date, 9-64 |
Amazing car, I've read this thread twice since you posted it. I had a '64.
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Spare tire and Wheel
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BFG Silvertown 7.75-14 tire.
This spare had been slightly used at some point. The solid Black (code A) wheels on this car has a “W” and “GM” stamped on the face along with a “6 9” at the valve stem. Correct DILL 627 valve cap. Lead wheel weight. |
Love everything about this PONTIAC :)
Thanks for sharing. Dan |
I love these little details about cars, and the letter from Pontiac is great.
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Thank you so much for taking the time to document all of these little details. It's just as entertaining as it is informative!
Tim |
Glass Codes
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Question, during a “Vintage Certification” on a Unrestored Survivor automobile, does the judging crew look at all the window codes to determine if they are dated correctly for that particular car?
I recently completed the full walk around with photos of all the windows on my early ‘65 GTO. I expected all 8 windows to be correct as when this car left the Baltimore plant in late 1964. The clarity varies, as some are dark and easy to read, as others are light and difficult to photograph. These glass codes line up correctly with a range of June, July and Aug. of ‘64. Invoice date on this car is Nov. 6, 1964. As mentioned earlier in this thread, this particular car may have been impacted by the 30 day General Motors (Sept. 25 ~ Oct. 25 of 1964) strike. LOF on the two wing windows and PPG on the rest of the glass out of the BAL plant. Interesting, the LH door glass and 1/4 glass are read from the outside opposed to the others being read from inside. My ‘66 built in Fremont is the opposite. PPG on the wings and LOF on the rest. |
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