68 - I have a bunch of these emblem codes and they are numbers in 68. But 6 isn't on my list!

Kurt
I couldn't make out the one I posted. Looks like it says 3M. Thoughts?...Joe

3 M is correct Joe. Meaning that is what I am seeing.


To help with collecting data can we add back to the already posted data the car along with its build date and NOR or LOS?

It's just a loose fender & extension so I don't know what plant...just the week. 37th week could be sept 68 or 69...Joe

Kurt,

I am posting this for the production superintendent. A man in his mid 80's so I am asking you to be nice and reply or simply ignore it for the benefit of the others watching the thread.

1. The Photo posted there is LOS Not Norwood. I thought the subject was about a fender extension marking from Norwood?

2. Los was TOWVEYOR. Mostly different assembly method used at the two plants.

3. What is the accuracy of the control group? Are all of the images being shown verified as coming from Norwood?

4. Sequencing was to be used. Marks were applied to insure a valance assembly made it to the correct doghouse.

5. ARO's were frequently in SMFA. Some these personnel were barely literate, they knew numbers but had poor reading skills. The more ARO's assigned to an area the more sequencing markings would assist them.

(ARO) Absentee Replacement Operator, (SMFA) Sheet Metal Final Assembly

6. The assumption that any operator, supervisor, or anyone else for that matter had the additional time to create a complex series of abbreviations duplicated from a manifest block to sub control assembly processes is patently absurd as that would require a huge and costly human capital training program to insure compliance and would not be strictly limited to a few markings on a sheet metal panel here or there.

Here is what I have currently. Still have to go through all my photos as I know I have more data points.

Darrell (Cook DW) , thanks for adding a spreadsheet. As we obtain more data points it may lead us to definitive conclusion....

I checked my 69 L-78 camaro, surviver car. One side has a 6 on the other side has a 9 on it. On the fender ext. Also I checked my body broadcast sheet, on my 69 COPO camaro. Box 103 fender piercing A.. . Just passing on info on this topic. BBBenny

Phil,
Why is that directed to me??
I have no idea what photo. I posted no photos. I just analyzed data and created a theory with input from others. The data I used was NOR.

The data is consistent and mostly fits the theory. Better than 126.
Complex system? Seems pretty basic to me.
1 digit for emblem, 1 digit for Z21/Z22.

3 in 67/68 was for a 327 emblem.
Benny - box 103 should be YA. The Y is either light or missing.

Kurt,

I am out of this thread as far as direct commentary goes due to the error made pertaining to the 126 determination which was quickly made by a retiree for which I agreed in my post based upon the single initial example presented.

I am told the Photo comment was related to post 35.

Two of the three retirees are satisfied as to the current thread content and direction. If the production superintendent has any additional comments to share I will post as I receive information from him. Yes he selected your post to reply to as a quote.

That's about it.

I think the data points collected so far correlate with the broadcast coding information. I'm encouraged, and want to keep the data and dialogue open and hope we can maintain a respectful and open conversation. Lets the hope the data points provide the information needed to come to a definitve conclusion.



I appreciate everyone's input, and ask we all keep an open mind. Hopefully we will all learn something.

For the record, post 35 was by me. While it does show assembly at Van Nuys, the report text relating to front sheetmetal installation says:
At the time of posting, I wondered if the fender extension markings may have been relevant to the build details of the front end, perhaps relating to grille/headlight type, etc. and pertaining to the general process, rather than the location in which it was done.
Perhaps posting that was unnecessary, in which case please disregard and focus positively on gathering more data points.

Was it a style trim car? X11?
if so that explains the M. piercing the extension for the two screws unique to the wheel opening moldings.

FWIW The middle Yellow Fender Extension with only 427 and no additional Alpha code is Dave Beem's X66 YENKO (Bill Hunter car) so no fender extension piercings, no CUI call outs.
Which falls in line with the theory... 427 with M is style trim with R is Rallysport.

That’s pretty interesting that they coded the fender extensions .. Have any been observed on the VanNuys cars ?

For the record:
1969 Camaro, 12B Norwood SS/RS396 extension marked R6

Steve Shauger- would you happen to know what was on the fender extensions of your former SS/RS L78 Pace Car?
I have my original front clip still intact and I could not make sense of it last time I looked at it a year ago- with this data I will re visit and post the characters listed as with another SS/RS L48 Pace car 100 vins later- both 04C cars from Norwood

1969 RS/SS 350 12B Norwood
Left fender appears as 3R.

John

Here's a new one. Still going through old photos when time allows. From my old 69 10E of 69. 307 X11 with A/C

Appears to be O A M but I can't confirm as the extension is now gone.