I like it except looks like they didnt know where to put all the buttons along the console. That's terrible

They'll be wrapped around poles in no time! LOL! (I like it too, especially at a price within reach. Plus dealer markup...)

I really like it, and really want to see it in person. I also love the current C7 style, and think that looks great also. The part I want to really see more of in person is the interior. HOPEFULLY GM realized that a world class performer needs a world class interior in design and QUALITY instead of the terrible quality interiors they've given us in the past.

They spoke about the interiors being all leather and suede with wider stitching etc. I know there are Vette guys swearing they will never buy a mid engine Vette but it looks to me like a all around better car. I think they will sell like crazy.

Yes, it is a bit busy. Yes, there are a few too many angular lines. But overall, Chevy did what they almost always do: they got the proportions correct. Overall, it is stunning. And seriously, the BASE model scoots 0-60 in UNDER 3 seconds? Rare air there.

I read the story "I am a little disappointed" in the link provided by Lee.
I thought the commentary was way overly harsh. He complained about the SHORT nose. I think it is perfect, especially with a mid engine lay out. One of the issues with many Corvettes over the years is the LONG nose, and not knowing when you are going to hit something.
Guy just whined about way too much.
Virtually all the car makers have added way more angular lines, ridges and bumps lately. It is the trend, and whether you like it or not, this styling fits right into 2020. Personally, I would have liked a little smoother. But that sure isn't enough to dissuade me from purchasing one.

Someone said it reminds them of a McLaren. I agree. There are only so many general shapes you can come up with on a mid engine car, and this GENERAL shape is the grand slam.

At least 58% of the folks that took the poll at the end of the article agree with me. Way more than that, if you also count the nuetral votes. Only 16% agreed with the author. I am guessing the responders represent a good cross section of prospective buyers. It is a winner.

Here are the poll results as of 3:30 pm central time today, July 19, 2019:

Were you disappointed by the design of the C8 Corvette?

16% Yes, very disappointed
21% Maybe a little disappointed
58% No, not disappointed at all
5% No opinion / Other

Based on 624 responses.

I haven't owned a Corvette since my C5 Z-06 which I used almost exclusively as a track car. It was a great car and very durable for 14,000 miles of abuse at redline.

I didn't think I would ever want a new car again, but my 10 year old really wants me to get one of these and he might be onto something!

Molded Fiberglass in Ashtabula, Ohio did the carbon Fiber floors for the car.

The development cost on this car has got to be atrocious. So I am left wondering if they can sell this car starting under 60, how much cheaper could/should the other product lines be?

For comparison the camaro line up should be way cheaper across the board right?7

How much of the value equation here is built around making the car so cheap it is a guaranteed success?

My guess is a fully optioned one will be over 100K.

About $105,000. Standard model should be $59,995.

Hard to believe this car will be $15k CHEAPER than a 2014 Z/28 was when new.

You can bet, after the first year or two, there will be further upgrades, with prices going up accordingly.

They may actually lose a little bit on the first year sales. Lexus did that when they sold the first wave of LS400 cars. It was genius marketing; selling them below their own cost for a couple years, then hiking the prices. Remember the marketing hype in years 3 & 4? They showed how a used LS400 was still worth almost 90% (sometimes more) of its original sales price. The much higher priced cars in years 3 and 4 meant people were willing to pay much more for a two year old Lexus, pushing the "resale" value through the roof. It was all fiction, of course. Still, a genius marketing move.

That is sweet.

I like it. Different for sure, but in a good way. Glad I sold my 15' Z06 when I did, I bet the current models value will tank.

Anyone have the backstory on why no stick?

Rich

I was told current/future demographics is why no M/T cars.
They show buyers not purchasing them,for lack of knowing how to operate properly,or maintain.

The C8's DCT can be shifted manually, but shifts are done wholly by wire. By removing the mechanical connection, the center tunnel can be completely enclosed to increase structural strength.

I know folks that buy new Vettes every few years and as much as they want the manuals, they opt for the automatics because they are easier to sell when the time comes.

Really wonder why they haven't created a "clutch by wire" yet, just for the few who really want a manual trans experience. Have a servo-hydraulic throwout bearing and a servo shifter with mechanical detents for shift feel. This could even have an override for full auto mode where you don't even have to push the clutch if you don't want to.

I’m 15 mins away from the plant and remember when the C7s first come out. I was told most were sticks from guys working the line. If there was a stick option then I’d be very tempted to buy a C8. With no option, then I’ll most likely admire from a distance. Nothing beats being able to row the gears yourself and red line and downright abuse something like I did my stick ZL1. Sticks are getting to be a harder and harder sell with being “slower” and a lot of younger people not knowing how to drive one...but boy they don’t know what they’re missing :)

Move to LA (or any other big traffic congested city) and then tell me how wonderful driving a stick is.

I'm impressed. That is a lot of car for 60k. About the price of a loaded 1/2 ton pickup truck.

That being said, I don't care for exotics(Lambos, ect) and the new Vette looks like an exotic.

The only thing that looks more ridiculous than on old man in a muscle car(me) is an old man in an exotic.

That is surprising.

I had a heck of a time finding a Volvo C70 with a manual for my wife back in the day. She didn't want a slush box.

Can’t wait to get my hands on one and track it.

No Stick ? Govt Motors what have you done

IMO History repeats... the last time we watched this play out was in 1984 with the hybrid 4+3 skip shift transmission but this time the matter is reversed with a manual option on the wire built onto the computer controlled automatic.

And just like 1984 the foundation for this silliness is today's emission approvals. In 1984 it was California.

Now it is sales in any country or area that has committed to the Paris accord.

If GM gets beat up enough by customers and the automotive press for not having a manual you can bet they will find a way to offer one later in production. Ford is taking the same gamble with the 2020 Mustang GT 500 going with only the Tremec seven-speed dual-clutch automatic.

But do not worry too much. In 10 years we will be having an entirely different discussion. Instead of "no stick" we will be asking how long will we be able to buy a car with a steering wheel?

GM does listen to it's customers,at least for performance cars. When the ZL1LE came out, stick only, now offered with A10. And the 19 Camaro refresh is thankfully going back to 17-18 front end fascia's after wholesale dislike.

Factory line is manual doesn't work on this platform, doesn't best suit mid-engine layout and is a performance compromise; minimizing capabilities of other components/electronics. Oh, and no one buys them. 8-spd DCT for now. Wouldn't be surprised if there's an electric variant at some point ...?

I talked with a recently retired Chassis Engineer for a while at the Corvette Nationals asked him about the C8 engines...
Told him I heard one at Nurburg which had the exhaust note of a flat plane engine... SO
I asked specifically about a flat plane crank engine in the C8... he stated he was not in power trains however his understanding was that the optional engine would be of a flat plane crank design! This explains the design of the engine- people thought the additional driven off the cam was more valves...BET it's a balance shaft.

Wives come with manuals??

I agree with Mr T, three pedals are going away. Millenials won't be buying these and don't need hip replacement surgery.

If someone comes across one of those wife manuals on amazon or elsewhere please provide a link!

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It reminds me a lot of the mid engine cars I will never be able to buy, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Ford GT, Audi A8, etc.
This car has got me excited!
Can't wait to see it in person!

Dave

Only 2pedals though? That’s disappointing to say the least.
Buddy

Yes, I’m sure you’re right. Thankfully where I live we don’t have a traffic light in our whole county...aka stick heaven!

And yes, a flat pane would be cool.

Seems like Corvette is always many years behind others when it comes to this technology. I’m sure it’s all bc of money and keeping the costs down, but DCT, flat pane, mid engine, electric, turbo, etc. have all been out for years now. Eventually, it all tends to finally trickle down to Vettes.

GM Explains How It Kept The 2020 Chevy Corvette Under $60,000

One of the greatest mysteries surrounding the 2020 Chevy Corvette is how, exactly, General Motors was able to keep its starting price under $60,000. The current C7 Corvette Stingray, this generation’s entry-level offering with 455 horsepower (339 kilowatts), starts at $55,900. And yet, according to GM, the C8’s starting price could be within a stone’s throw of the C7. Motor Authority, also curious about the mental mathematics needed to justify the low starting price, asked GM how it kept the price so low.

General Motors president Mark Reuss told the publication the automaker would spread out the C8 Corvette’s cost over an expanded future lineup. Just like the C7, the C8 will have a “portfolio” of models. The new 2020 Corvette Stingray is just the beginning. Rumors of a hybrid and plug-in model are already swirling online. And there are rumors GM could expand the Corvette model into a brand with a sedan, SUV, and Corvette-based Cadillac offering. That’d be one way to spread development costs. Reuss also pointed to GM’s new Global B electrical platform as another reason for the price.

Corvette Chief Engineer and Vehicle Line Manager Tadge Juechter attributed the C8’s remarkably low starting price to GM’s economy of scale, which allows the automaker to provide a lot of content in the vehicle without having customers pay for extras. Being part of a larger company has its benefits, according to Juechter.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/auto...cid=spartandhp

lotta car for the money

Those are the same reasons for cost containment that GM used to use for the special cars made for promotional purposes nearly 30 years ago.

Jim Perkins gave the same reasons for the wild interior in the 1993 Indy Pace car. The pre-chapter indy pace cars featured huge one time investments in interiors and graphics.

Later new designs that did not make any real sense also used this cost containment idea, with the the Sky and the Solstice the SSR and others coming to mind as prime examples of so called "halo" cars where the real cost was borne by everybody else buying product within the GM Line up.

Thanks Lee, looks like my question is now answered.:flag:

Pretty good video from EE. Worth the time to watch!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=E_SH4c-oLUQ

I recall seeing a tech doc somewhere in the past that said a flat plane crank doesn't work beyond about 5 liters in a V8 engine, that Ford really pushed its limit with the 5.2 Voodoo Coyote. True?