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PeteLeathersac 10-21-2018 05:15 PM

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Looks really great, congrats on the successful landing!
Not too far back a member here advertised Ed Stinn decals also another had a Stinn Keyfob.
:beers:
~ Pepe

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NorCam 10-21-2018 09:51 PM

It'd be nice to find an original Ed Stinn decal (hint hint).

Went through the car a little more today. The bad is that the original harness has the wiper motor wires and heater box wires cut short at the terminal block so I'll have to look for an original front wiring harness. Also needs a heater core, wiper transmission, and a new cowl panel as the holes were filled in and painted back in the day.

The good news is that it retains the original M21 dated October 28th, and the original 3:31 12 bolt dated October 17. Might try and find a nice CTB block for it down the road somewhere. Car is 10B so those both align perfectly. The 2nd owner is also sending me a bunch of original pictures from the car from when he owned it over a 24 year span. His neighbor bought it new in 70 from Ed Stinn, added the day 2 mods in the 70's and kept it until 1992. Gary then bought it and kept it until 2016 where it was sold to Mel. Now I'll turn the clock back on it somewhat.

https://image.ibb.co/ktNcLf/CBS-1017-G2-E.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/cT9eY0/P0R28B.jpg

Astock 10-21-2018 10:31 PM

Went through the car a little more today. The bad is that the original harness has the wiper motor wires and heater box wires cut short at the terminal block so I'll have to look for an original front wiring harness. Also needs a heater core, wiper transmission, and a new cowl panel as the holes were filled in and painted back in the day.




All that is a good thing - car never saw bad whether.

Damien 10-21-2018 10:39 PM

Very cool. Look forward to following along.

NorCam 10-22-2018 12:11 PM

Thought I'd share some pictures provided by Gary Cunningham (the second owner) that show the original car with the original owner. Most of these I am told are from 1970 to 1972 when the car was setup with it's day 2 gear. Looks good with the M/T black valve covers, Cragar SS wheels and the J-bolt traction bars that are still on it now (going to restore them back to yellow and have original decals for them as well). The car has 36,000 miles on it and is still in excellent condition with all original sheet metal intact. Looks like I am it's 4th owner after Mel had it for 2 years. Only spot of rust anywhere on the car is a couple bubbles on the right rear fender lip. They will be addressed and blown in this winter.

https://image.ibb.co/mGWBVf/001.jpg
Original stance when new.

https://image.ibb.co/eMh730/002.jpg
Looks like rear tires were changed.

https://image.ibb.co/d0O8Af/003.jpg
Still very original looking

https://image.ibb.co/gbLc30/004.jpg
Bench seat car

https://image.ibb.co/b4QGwL/005.jpg
Wheels, J-Bars and Thrust exhaust under there now.

https://image.ibb.co/mW2UGL/006.jpg
Looks like M/T slicks on the rear

https://image.ibb.co/enAc30/007.jpg
Good shot of the Lakewood bars which are still on the car now.

https://image.ibb.co/iVQzGL/008.jpg
Don't know what he's holding up here? Parts carton perhaps?

https://image.ibb.co/hdEyAf/009.jpg
Look at that 70's hair. I remember those days. Black M/T covers too.

https://image.ibb.co/nb9yAf/010.jpg
Original interior w/ bench

mr.4speed 10-22-2018 01:18 PM

Love the vintage pics!

mockingbird812 10-22-2018 01:23 PM

Great shots!!!!!

Flying Undertaker 10-22-2018 03:07 PM

Day II Deuce
 
Congrats on your purchase. A beautiful car for sure! I've known about that car since the early 70's, a fellow named Gurkovich owned it and worked at the Sunoco station at Tiedemann Rd. & Brookpark Rd. He used to leave it on the corner of the station when he worked there. I believe he lived in the West Park area of Cleveland. The car was present at the Last Night at Diney's Drive-In on West 117th st. in October of 1975, which had to close due to the construction of I-90 interstate in the area. I remember he had a built 327 with tunnelram and dual quads on the car and with 5:13's, it was wickedly fast! He and a fellow named Duely (spelling?) with a Red 1966 Street Hemi Belvedere hit it off at the light on W.117th & Elmwood Ave. at the end of the evening! I am a friend of Gary Cunningham, the next owner who used to live in the West Park area, and he returned the car to a more streetable vehicle to cruise with during his ownership. It sure brings back memories seeing those pictures! Good Luck with your purchase and keep us updated. Don.

NorCam 10-23-2018 12:10 AM

Very cool hearing anecdotes like that Don, and I thank you for that.

mockingbird812 10-23-2018 01:00 AM

Nice move. I like where you are going. Those are very spunky gutsy motors!!!:eek2:

Astock 10-23-2018 05:28 AM

Great buy on the car and engine.

How years was it, before GM had a higher performance sbc in a production car?

I remember looking at low mile '69 Z's in the '70's, with 1970 LT1 replacements. I would have done the same, with either rebuilding the original 302, or buying a crate LT1.

NorCam 10-24-2018 06:51 PM

Looks like this one will be getting a set of Cragar's thanks to Sam Scardino. I'm thinking 8's and 4's will look good on this car.

NorCam 10-24-2018 07:34 PM

No stock ride height on this car. Not for now anyways. I've got low profile tires for it if needed and also have shorter slicks as well. Wheel lips are already rolled, diff is centered and it has 275's tucked in it right now with no issues. Not really too concerned as I have a few sets of wheels and tires to play with and will find something to fit the rears. Thanks for the numbers in either case.

outlawperformance 10-24-2018 08:45 PM

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I'm running Cragar 15x4 fronts and 15x8 rears with custom offset with 4.75 BS with 275 drag radials. The car has stock multileaf springs diff is centered and have no issues. I took the upper shock shaft cover off it would rub.

NorCam 10-27-2018 12:58 AM

Another picture that Gary sent me. From the 90's with the Welds on it.

https://image.ibb.co/b0S3oA/Nova-1990.jpg

Flying Undertaker 10-27-2018 04:33 AM

Day II Deuce
 
Don here again. The custom black pinstriping and fogging was painted by another friend of mine, Ron Badiu, back in the early 70's. Ronnie Jr. has his own body shop here in Litchfield, Ohio.

NorCam 10-27-2018 02:41 PM

Don,

If you talk to Ron Badiu, can you ask if that was done over the original paint on the car? Except for the hood it would appear to have mostly original paint with some checking in a few places. I'm thinking the ghosting was done over lacquer and at some point it was clear coated?

Just curious what he may remember about the car and if it was ever repainted?

DW31S 10-27-2018 08:42 PM

Killer car and the Cragars will look right at home. Love the '70s theme myself....

NorCam 10-28-2018 07:13 PM

Playing around with some wheels and tires today. I like the Torque Thrust rims myself and mounted these up with Firestone 5.60.15 front runners on 4" fronts, and a set of NOS Mickey Thompson H50/15's on 8.5" TT's. Thinking I'll drop the front springs and add an inch to the rear for some added clearance via Hurst Air Shocks. Then comes the vintage line loc, Lakewood roll bar and a few other goodies.

Just the start of things to come before the 383 Crossram and M22 go into this puppy.

https://image.ibb.co/fe1MTA/IMG-1722.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/caOqMV/IMG-1724.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/eHGGvq/IMG-1728.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/iy2d8A/IMG-1730.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/g1zx1V/IMG-1733.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/gOqbvq/IMG-1734.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/iDLjFq/IMG-1736.jpg

R68GTO 10-28-2018 07:49 PM

Looks great! I agree on dropping the front.

Xplantdad 10-29-2018 12:39 AM

Graeme, nice!

Mr.Nickey Nova 10-29-2018 01:38 AM

Look's good!! Maybe just a little higher in the rear. Love those wheels...

Salvatore 10-29-2018 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NorCam (Post 1418960)
Looks like this one will be getting a set of Cragar's thanks to Sam Scardino. I'm thinking 8's and 4's will look good on this car.

Will look real good Graeme. That is the set up I ran on my 69 SS nova back in 1970. Cragar's never go out of style.

racer67x 10-30-2018 09:51 PM

that does look good..nice job!

Outlaw68Nova 11-02-2018 01:24 AM

Do you know what the original Cragar SS rim and tire sizes were?

NorCam 11-02-2018 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Outlaw68Nova (Post 1420072)
Do you know what the original Cragar SS rim and tire sizes were?

Not at the moment but they sure look like 7" wheels with those narrow slicks in a few of the early pics. When the car had the grump lump, there was a change to bigger wheels and wider slicks which might be 8's on the rear then.

NorCam 11-02-2018 12:52 PM

And another picture that Gary shared with me this week. The Magnum wheels were on the car for a while back in the late 90's to early 2000's. I think these wheels make Nova's look like a quintessential factory muscle car. Classy yet meaningful. I'll probably mount a set of these when I'm finished playing with this car.

https://image.ibb.co/fMjXV0/Full-Size-Render-4.jpg

Mr. Chevy 11-02-2018 02:17 PM

Graeme, I recognize that photo. That is at a local show here. I believe that is the rear parking lot of the Chevrolet Parma, Ohio plant where the employees park across the street from the actual plant. Every May a local car club here in the Cleveland area host a show there. Great picture!! I was probably at that show.

Rich

68l30 11-02-2018 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Chevy (Post 1420112)
Graeme, I recognize that photo. That is at a local show here. I believe that is the rear parking lot of the Chevrolet Parma, Ohio plant where the employees park across the street from the actual plant. Every May a local car club here in the Cleveland area host a show there. Great picture!! I was probably at that show.

Rich

Funny, I was thinking that's Todd's GTO next to it.....

BIG

Mr. Chevy 11-03-2018 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 68l30 (Post 1420133)
Funny, I was thinking that's Todd's GTO next to it.....

BIG


Steve, it very well could be.... LOL

Rich

Astock 11-03-2018 05:38 AM

I remember going to a little car show on 71, maybe Strongsville K-Mart, about 20 years ago. There was a nice, original black paint Copo Camaro, with white interior, 4sp-30k miles. Tried to buy it, offered what he thought it was worth. He thought about, but decided he wasn't ready. Nice car.

68l30 11-03-2018 10:01 AM

That was Brunswick K-Mart. A lot of us were “regulars” back then. I know the car very well, it’s moved on. This is still one of the largest, and oldest weekly get togethers. Once billed as the largest unorganized car show in the world. It’s roots go back to the 1960-70’s Manners Big-Boy and even Hot-Rod magazine.

BIG

Mr. Chevy 11-04-2018 01:10 AM

That show/cruise inn holds very fond memories.. Lots of fun there!!

Rich

NorCam 11-04-2018 01:39 AM

You guys are making me jealous. I grew up in Winnipeg where there's a huge car culture and street scene still to this very day. I moved west at 25 and found a hot Saturday night scene here in Calgary but that died off 20 years ago followed by the local track closing up 7 years ago.

Car shows are all that's left here and they bore me with so many late model cars showing up over that of the real muscle cars that are stowed away in urban garages. I wish there was still a street scene here. Smaller demographics over your major US cities and shorter seasons makes it a tough go. Ocean City, Pavillions, Street Machine Nationals, MCACN, SCR, Woodward, Pigeon Forge ETC ETC. For that I am truly envious.

NorCam 11-11-2018 05:12 AM

Big thank you to Mike Angelo for the complimentary Ed Stinn decals which arrived Friday. They'll be put to good use on this little Nova when I get it cleaned up. Been taking stock of what's needed to put some things back to stock. Looking for a clean engine bay harness, cowl panel and wiper arms, and it will need a complete inner heater core as that was removed for weight back in the day. Maybe once I add that and the new motor with those heavy orange headers, it'll add enough weight to drop the front end some. The Crossram will also help add some weight. Here's another picture I found with Cragar's on it. Should be picking up the Cragar"s from Sam next week.

https://image.ibb.co/gNK70A/Ed-Stinn.jpg
(Thanks very much Mike. And you too Rich for the offer of the docs. Two great guys from this site)

https://image.ibb.co/fUvQnq/7b7a540e...ee87bb68ea.jpg
This was another shot Gary Cunningham took of the car when he had it.

big gear head 11-11-2018 12:52 PM

That thing looks so good with Cragars.

GrumpyJeff 11-11-2018 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by big gear head (Post 1421288)
That thing looks so good with Cragars.

I Agree !!!

Mr. Chevy 11-11-2018 02:09 PM

Graeme, I'll text you later today for your address and send you a nice care package of Stinn stuff.. Sorry I have not done same sooner. Work has been very hectic but I will have time this week..

Rich

NorCam 11-29-2018 01:01 AM

While waiting for some other parts to arrive for the Nova, I did receive a cool little care package from Rich (Mr. Chevy) earlier today. A complete set of dealership issued docs from Ed Stinn Chevrolet which will stay with the car now.

Thank you for all of this Rich. :beers:

https://i.ibb.co/XkfJGZd/IMG-1917.jpg

NorCam 11-29-2018 01:01 PM

By chance...would anyone have any pictures of a Lakewood roll bar (Mounting Kit #54050) to fit 68-72 Nova. I have feet for a 69 Camaro #54010 and I'm wondering what difference there is between the 2 as they are likely similar? Hoping I can modify the mounts but curious as to how different the originals are to each other?

Best case scenario would be to find the mounting kit if anyone has one stashed away?


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