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Tracker1 01-29-2018 01:24 PM

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Tracker1 01-29-2018 01:26 PM

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Crush 01-29-2018 04:30 PM

The letter from McQueen trying to buy it was classic too, not sure if anyone has it to post.

Tracker1 01-29-2018 05:01 PM

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BJCHEV396 01-29-2018 05:42 PM

Had to LOL when I read the add and it described the Mustang as "mint"! The letter struck me as being a bit cold and impersonal.From what I've ever read about McQueen he wasn't very warm and fussy.Also he didn't offer much for the return of his Mustang.Thanks for the pics TRACKER!!!

markinnaples 01-29-2018 06:15 PM

Have to agree with that statement; he didn't seem all that kind or however you want to term it, but more of a matter-of-fact and if you don't take my deal then ____ you, lol.

Honey gets more bees thank vinegar and maybe the owner didn't care for his attitude.

The Boss 01-29-2018 07:13 PM

Like money really mattered to Steve.

Tracker1 01-29-2018 07:27 PM

Call it weird, call it odd, or whatever, but this car's clutch gave out - it essentially died, and was left in that condition - in 1980. Same year McQueen passed away.

Vern B 01-30-2018 07:03 PM

Fir those in Northern Michigan and Southern Ontario that want to see the car, it's at Hagerty's home office in Traverse City.

https://www.traverseticker.com/news/...traverse-city/

JRC99 01-30-2018 08:44 PM

I saw it Saturday. Imgur link because I took 45 pictures of it. I talked to Sean, the owner, for a minute. Nice guy, super glad he unveiled it.
https://imgur.com/gallery/SeSuv

Vern B 01-31-2018 03:56 AM

For those that have seen the car, I see the hood is down, but does anyone know if it has a 390, or 427 engine? It supposedly came from the factory with a 390, but in a You Tube video I was watching recently, Steve's son said it had a 427. If so, it would have had to have an engine swap because Kevin Marti says there were no factory W code 427's. 428's yes, but no 427's. Apparently there were quite a few modifications to make it chase ready, but was an engine swap one of them?

Lee Stewart 01-31-2018 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Vern B (Post 1386383)
For those that have seen the car, I see the hood is down, but does anyone know if it has a 390, or 427 engine? It supposedly came from the factory with a 390, but in a You Tube video I was watching recently, Steve's son said it had a 427. If so, it would have had to have an engine swap because Kevin Marti says there were no factory W code 427's. 428's yes, but no 427's. Apparently there were quite a few modifications to make it chase ready, but was an engine swap one of them?

390 with modifications:

https://s26.postimg.org/gwi12chex/screenshot_5897.png

http://www.mustangtek.com/Library3/CL_69-08.html

Lee Stewart 01-31-2018 04:30 AM

Just a trivia note . . .

When the Producers met with San Fran. city officials to get the necessary permits that would allow them to film on the streets along with blocking certain cross streets, they promised that the cars would not exceed 45 MPH.

One the first day of filming city officials were, along with SFPD, bombarded with telephone calls from concerned citizens that cars were racing through the streets at 100 MPH.

This gave way to the old adage . . .

"It is better to ask for forgiveness than permission."

Vern B 01-31-2018 02:01 PM

Here's the link to the video where his son Chad references the 427 at the 2:39 mark.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YC0cFQGLVJY

Not sure if that was intentional, he forgot, or just didn't know which motor it had.
He did get the guy's name right that made the modifications to the 390 motor.

Lee Stewart 01-31-2018 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Vern B (Post 1386402)
Here's the link to the video where his son Chad references the 427 at the 2:39 mark.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YC0cFQGLVJY

Not sure if that was intentional, he forgot, or just didn't know which motor it had.
He did get the guy's name right that made the modifications to the 390 motor.

There was no 427 in either of the BULLITT Mustangs . . . and if there was one - it definitely would not have been in the "hero car" which is what was presented by Ford. They were both 390s.

Chad McQueen was 8 years old when BULLITT hit theaters.

Read the entire article that I linked in the August 1968 Motor Trend

Lee Stewart 01-31-2018 03:16 PM

This should stir things up . . . From an interview with Loren Janes who drove in BULLITT:

"We had three identical green 1968 Ford Mustang fastbacks and three black Dodge Chargers in the movie. Many writers have said two, but there were three of each. We needed the extra cars in case one was damaged. The movie's shooting schedule can't be slowed for dents and things like that. Fortunately we only had to use a second Mustang once when the first Mustang had to go in to be fixed up.

https://jalopnik.com/5744523/the-rea...ene-in-bullitt

BJCHEV396 01-31-2018 06:32 PM

Now the hunt's on for the third Mustang!

Craig_Maiorana 01-31-2018 07:12 PM

So out of curiosity which mustang is the one that he drove into the ditch?

BJCHEV396 01-31-2018 07:36 PM

Think it's this one 'cause they mention the body work done on one side.

Craig_Maiorana 01-31-2018 07:40 PM

Oh the one that just came out of hiding? ...

Lee Stewart 01-31-2018 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig_Maiorana (Post 1386434)
So out of curiosity which mustang is the one that he drove into the ditch?

The "jumper." The front suspension was heavily damaged.

If I remember correctly, McQueen wanted to do the slide. Unfortunately after three takes - he couldn't do it. So Loren Janes jumped in the car and did it on his first take. There is a big difference between a good race car driver, which McQueen was and a Hollywood stunt driver which McQueen wasn't. He only did 10% of the driving in BULLITT.

One of the most incredible things about BULLITT is that at the time of it's filming there were 4 top stunt drivers in Hollywood:

Bud Elkins
Carey Loftin
Loren Janes
Bill Hickman

All 4 drove in BULLITT.

69hurstSC 01-31-2018 07:43 PM

Now all we need is to find someone with info on Jim Morrison's Shelby...

Lee Stewart 01-31-2018 07:51 PM

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Now all we need is to find someone with info on Jim Morrison's Shelby...

LOL - the Mary Celeste of muscle cars. So many claim to know where it is but it has never surfaced. Some experts claim that while driving drunk Morrison totaled it and simply walked away from it. The car was then sent to a junkyard and destroyed.

What I would like to see appear is one of the two remaining 1970 Hemi Road Runner Convertibles. Plymouth built 3 of them - 1 was sent to Canada, the other two for the USA. One of the USA cars is definitely known to have been destroyed. So where are the other two?

69hurstSC 01-31-2018 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart (Post 1386440)
LOL - the Mary Celeste of muscle cars. So many claim to know where it is but it has never surfaced. Some experts claim that while driving drunk Morrison totaled it and simply walked away from it. The car was then sent to a junkyard and destroyed.

What I would like to see appear is one of the two remaining 1970 Hemi Road Runner Convertibles. Plymouth built 3 of them - 1 was sent to Canada, the other two for the USA. One of the USA cars is definitely known to have been destroyed. So where are the other two?

It wasn't destroyed that day.

Lee Stewart 01-31-2018 08:05 PM

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It wasn't destroyed that day.

Correct. Many say the police had the car towed to a junkyard where eventually it was crushed and sold as scrap.

One of the things that Morrison did which has been documented was . . . he would drive drunk, get into an accident (not too serious). Walk away then report the car stolen so his insurance would be on the hook to repair it. But the last time he supposedly ran into a telephone pole.

And we can't forget the rumor that he parked it at LAX long term on his way to the DOORS touring overseas, forgot about the car which was eventually seized and sold at auction which would mean the car MAY exist.

69hurstSC 01-31-2018 08:23 PM

It wasn't towed to a junkyard either. Don't believe what you've read online. What is true is it hasn't been titled since Morrison's ownership.

Charley Lillard 01-31-2018 08:25 PM

I know someone that says he knows who has it and has been trying to buy it for years. He has come up with some very rare cars so I have no reason to doubt him.

Lee Stewart 01-31-2018 08:27 PM

Like I said . . . . the Mary Celeste of muscle cars.

PLATINUM6BBL 02-02-2018 01:30 AM

I have a customer that may own it. Years ago he bought a 68 GT390 Mustang from a movie car lot and had it shipped back east. He said that while fixing it up to paint red (early 80's) that it had a bullet hole and right front suspension damage similar to what is seen in the movie. I will tell you - HE HAS NO INTEREST IN FINDING OUT IF IT IS A BULLIT CAR! Seriously! I have asked him many times for the vin number. He just chuckles and turns a little red in the face. He is tired of hearing about it. May have to drive the Runner to his place this summer just to see it. I have only ever seen pictures he has brought over to the shop.
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart (Post 1386407)
This should stir things up . . . From an interview with Loren Janes who drove in BULLITT:

"We had three identical green 1968 Ford Mustang fastbacks and three black Dodge Chargers in the movie. Many writers have said two, but there were three of each. We needed the extra cars in case one was damaged. The movie's shooting schedule can't be slowed for dents and things like that. Fortunately we only had to use a second Mustang once when the first Mustang had to go in to be fixed up.

https://jalopnik.com/5744523/the-rea...ene-in-bullitt


PLATINUM6BBL 02-02-2018 01:32 AM

I have a customer that may own it. Years ago he bought a 68 GT390 Mustang from a movie car lot and had it shipped back east. He said that while fixing it up to paint red (early 80's and still green) that it had a bullet hole and right front suspension damage similar to what is seen in the movie. I will tell you - HE HAS NO INTEREST IN FINDING OUT IF IT IS A BULLIT CAR! Seriously! I have asked him many times for the vin number. He just chuckles and turns a little red in the face. He is tired of hearing about it. May have to drive the Runner to his place this summer just to see it. I have only ever seen pictures he has brought over to the shop.
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart (Post 1386407)
This should stir things up . . . From an interview with Loren Janes who drove in BULLITT:

"We had three identical green 1968 Ford Mustang fastbacks and three black Dodge Chargers in the movie. Many writers have said two, but there were three of each. We needed the extra cars in case one was damaged. The movie's shooting schedule can't be slowed for dents and things like that. Fortunately we only had to use a second Mustang once when the first Mustang had to go in to be fixed up.

https://jalopnik.com/5744523/the-rea...ene-in-bullitt


69hurstSC 02-06-2018 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Charley Lillard (Post 1386446)
I know someone that says he knows who has it and has been trying to buy it for years. He has come up with some very rare cars so I have no reason to doubt him.

It would be rather easy to validate, considering the VIN was made public. Though it hasn't shown up in any active records department through the government or insurance companies.

Which begs the question, why wouldn't you insure a very, very valuable Shelby Mustang? The owner would potentially be out millions if an accident occurred. Hence, I'd like to see more proof than beyond the rumor.

Charley Lillard 02-06-2018 05:58 PM

The owner knows he has a Shelby that he has owned for years and has been sitting for years. He does not know the history of it. I doubt that it is insured. I doubt it is worth millions. I put far more value on the Bullitt Mustang than I do on a Shelby owned by Morrison.

Tracker1 02-06-2018 07:19 PM

I could see a deep pocket Doors fan going close to a million for it, maybe, but thats about it.
Cool car to see if it's still around though.

Bullitt is an Icon car. Not many people know or cared that Jim Morrison had a Shelby Mustang.

1967Z28 02-06-2018 07:34 PM

Janis Joplin's 356 Porsche went for $1.76 million three years ago when it was expected to go for a quarter to a third of that amount. I could easily see a similar scenario for Morrison's Shelby, if it was still out there and in a similar state.

BJCHEV396 02-06-2018 08:22 PM

Janis'car was all painted up with psychedelic images.Like something you might see on an LSD trip!

tom406 02-06-2018 08:55 PM

Not as visually iconic or well known as Janis' Porsche but one of my very favorite muscle cars in the best color combination owned new by one of my favorite rock stars? I'd pay way too much for that. So would a number of other people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDAmweqwMSM

Its more desirable to ME, just because it dovetails my car and music geek tendencies in one vehicle. I love the Bullitt Mustang and chase, and I like Steve McQueen, but I find the rest of the Bullitt movie tedious. I've never been able to sit through the whole thing.

69hurstSC 02-06-2018 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tom406 (Post 1387327)
Not as visually iconic or well known as Janis' Porsche but one of my very favorite muscle cars in the best color combination owned new by one of my favorite rock stars? I'd pay way too much for that. So would a number of other people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDAmweqwMSM

Its more desirable to ME, just because it dovetails my car and music geek tendencies in one vehicle. I love the Bullitt Mustang and chase, and I like Steve McQueen, but I find the rest of the Bullitt movie tedious. I've never been able to sit through the whole thing.

Agreed. I can easily imagine north of 1 million.

Charley Lillard 02-06-2018 11:24 PM

I would like to make a motion to ban Tom406 on the grounds of not liking Bullitt.

PeteLeathersac 02-07-2018 02:57 AM

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Others please speak up w/ better info but as much as I've ever understood, the last confirmed sightings of Morrison's Shelby was sometime in 1969?
:beers:
~ Pete

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1967Z28 02-07-2018 04:03 AM

Neat info. Morrison moved to Paris, France in March 1971 and died in July of that year. It appears he got rid of the car before going overseas.


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