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1970 428 CJ Cougar XR7 Convertible - Special Order Paint: Presidential Blue

That GS is stunning.

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1969 Road Runner - Special Order Paint: Bahama Yellow

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1968 Road Runner - Special Order Paint: Omaha Orange

Lee, you're the man with all of the special colors. Thanks for taking the time to post them up, they're brilliant.

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1970 Charger R/T SE - Special Order Paint: Silver

The picture from Pavilions with Kenny Berger in the background sure looks familiar!:hmmm:

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The original buyer of the 1970 Chevelle SS396 convertible wanted something different. He ordered the car as a Special Order Paint car but not the color. This combo would normally have White stripes. He wanted Black stripes so under RPO ZP3: Color & Trim Override he created a unique 4 color 1970 Chevelle SS396

Thanks for the kudos - greatly appreciated! Glad you are enjoying them.:smile:

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1970 Rebel "The Machine" Special Order Paint: Big Bad Green (1969 color)

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Thought I would post this for S & G as we were looking at Vedoro Green cars. Here is a 1968 GTO with the 1968 only option: Chrome Front Bumper

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1966 GTO convertible - Special Order Paint: Marina Blue (Chevrolet color)

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1968 Road Runner - Special Order Paint: Petty Blue

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1969 427/425hp Biscayne - Special Order Paint - Hugger Orange

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1970 GTX - Special Order Paint - EA4 Silver Metallic (only available in 1970 in a Fury)

Love 'em all. Just a note, that GTO is a '66. Interesting in Marina Blue, but I think I like the regular medium/light blue for the 66/67's better though.

I love that Petty Blue Roadrunner.

Bahama Orange was an RPO color, as was Big Bad Green.

Prior to the introduction of the A12 440 Six Pack, Bahama Yellow was a special order paint color. It became an RPO color for the A12.

Big Bad Green was a 1969/1970 color available for the Javelin/AMX. The Machine is a Rebel and BBG was not an RPO color for it.

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Bahama Yellow was always a regular-production color – just an extra-cost one. The fact that it has a special-order paint code, like 99 or 96 or whatever, doesn't define it because it was offered at no extra cost, unlike a true special-order color like some of the silver Mopars as posted above.

I'll ask a Mopar expert friend on his thoughts.

Ditto with this – I'll ask a friend who owns a Big Bad Rebel Machine.

Special-order paint costs extra, but not every extra-cost paint is a special-order.

Chrysler charged $15 or so for High Impact paint, but they were generally regular-production colors.

But order FM3 (aka Panther Pink/Moulin Rouge) on a 1971 Charger and it'd be a special-order color because the Charger was ordered in a non-production color (because it was a 1970 color). Prob cost around $100 back then.

The semantics can be confusing, as demonstrated by this 1970 Oldsmobile item:

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Notice the four "special-order" colors at the bottom? Yet they were regular-production colors that simply cost a few bucks extra, rather than colors that were not normally available. I consider them "extra-cost" colors in this case, as their RPO status didn't require special accommodations at the factory.

So most of the pics you posted are special-order colors, but I'm raising the possibility that Bahama Yellow and BBG (for the Rebel) were not. I'm more certain of the Mopar over the AMC, but I'll report back with more when I figure it out shortly.

special order paint to me, example a cadillac color on a pontiac. An rpo color available on certain car lines used on other cars. The paint had to be ordered and usually was painted by hand. New cars have extra cost paint, GM tint coat colors. But i would not call that special order paint.

That seems too buttonholed. You are saying If I wanted my 1967 Chevelle SS 396 painted in 1965's Evening Orchid or my 1969 Camaro SS350 painted in 1967's Royal Plum - that doesn't count?

No, he's saying those colors would be considered special-ordered.

I had a '72 GS Conv. with 31 options and 9200 miles that was painted Dark Chestnut Poly (a Riviera only color). Still had original paint that was hideous, horrendous, horrible!

I beg to differ. He said:

The cause for your confusion is this part of his comment:

"New cars have extra cost paint...."

He's using a situation from the past and bringing a contemporary example for comparison.

But why not let him explain what he said? :-)

442W30 you 100% correct, that is exactly what i mean by my post.

1969 Q Code 428 Mach 1 - Special Order Paint - Ford Fleet Red

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1972 Trans Am - Special Order Paint - Cardinal Red (1 of 1)

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My old 1972 Formula 455HO. 1 of three known special ordered black cars. In 1972 for some crazy reason, GM decided you couldn't get black on a Firebird or Camaro. But if you paid the $79.01 (Canadian) you could special order any color you wanted.

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An extra cost color was a color available on a particular model, but the manufacturer charged an extra amount to apply it. These colors were usually marked with a "*" in the dealer albums and listed as "Extra Cost". For instance, Carousel Red was an RPO color on the 1969 Firebird, but Pontiac charged you $12.64. Some of the confusion here is because on invoices Pontiac lists an extra cost color as "PAINT-SPECIAL" and people think that means special paint. But it's not, it's an extra cost color, not special paint. These cars would have a regular paint code on the invoice and trim tag.

A special paint car is a color not available on that particular model. For instance, Carousel Red on a 1969 Firebird was extra cost for $12.64, but Carousel Red on a 1969 Bonneville was a $115.85 charge because that color was not available on the Bonneville. The same $115.85 charge would apply if you wanted your 1969 Grand Prix painted Dodge Hemi Orange. It was for a color outside the normal operations for the manufacturer. A special paint car would not have an RPO paint code on the invoice and would have a "- -" on the trim tag (some exceptions, like with 1965 Tiger Gold, so it depends on year and model).

Steve, just an FYI (and it's not relevant to the discussion here), but the cost of a special paint was much higher than $79.01 in Canada in 1972. That's the cost to the dealer, not the MSRP charged to the customer.

A few special order black Firebirds made it through, including this special order 1970 Formula 400 in Starlight Black. Car was built with manual brakes, manual steering, no radio, M21 4-speed, and 3.73 gears. It has around 433 original miles on the odometer. Watch for a full feature on this soon in POCI's "Smoke Signals" magazine. http://www.4smileys.com/smileys/happ...y-smiley45.gif

Black was an available color on the 1970 and 1971 Firebirds so it was not extra cost in those years. It is just very rare to see one. Black carried a standard paint code on the firewall tag in 1970 and 1971 not the two dots as in 1972 and 1973.

That recent 1970 find is an amazing car and raised quite a ruckus when news of it appeared on PY. I can't wait to see the article.

Here's the firewall tag and Canadian invoice on my old '72. You can see the invoice prices under the "Solid Special" paint color.

Steve, Starlight Black was NOT an available color on 1970 Firebirds, it was Special Order only. Black was available in 1971 oin the Firebird, then they removed it again for 1972. The 1970 Formula referenced above has the same "- -" on the trim tag as your old '72.

Canadian prices were much higher than U.S. prices. The column you're seeing on your invoice is the price to dealers in Canada, not the retail price paid by the customer. The exchange rate was factored in when the cars were received in Oshawa and then new window stickers were created with Canadian prices.

Good info to have. What was up with GM and their hate for black paint? I guess they didn't like how bad their body prep was looking in that color?

I don't think black was a popular color for performance cars. It was middle-of-the-road at best. Generally manufacturers had a clearly defined number of regular-production colors to offer, so in this case Pontiac could decide to offer black or another color that it deemed more popular. IMHO

Pontiac offered Starlight Black on the 1969 Firebird, removed the choice for the 1970 Firebird, then offered it for the 1971 Firebird, then removed it for 1972 and it was not available again on the Firebird until 1976. Black became a popular color on the Firebird after 1977, thanks to the popularity of the Special Edition model and the "Smokey And The Bandit" movie.

Most everybody here probably already knows about this site, but for the few that dson't its a pretty good site for reference on paint colors.

http://paintref.com/paintref/index.shtml

It doesn't show "specials" like what this discussion is about, but does show you what was being sprayed across a manufacturer during a particular year.

There's stuff they get wrong at times (omissions or inclusions that are incorrect), but they update the site with corrections.