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Carleen 07-18-2023 06:19 PM

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If I look at the Fender Cover its Toy VI

big gear head 07-18-2023 09:42 PM

I wonder why he used that master cylinder.

William 07-18-2023 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Carleen (Post 1627382)
Here is Pictures of Engine Bay but I dont know if its Toy IV or VI

Has heater delete, must be the '67.

Carleen 07-18-2023 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by William (Post 1627398)
Has heater delete, must be the '67.

No its the 69

Carleen 07-18-2023 10:14 PM

I dont have Toy VI just hoping that this will help somone to find it

Carleen 07-18-2023 10:35 PM

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Some claim this is Toy VI

SPEEDYB 07-19-2023 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by big gear head (Post 1627396)
I wonder why he used that master cylinder.

Drag racers always went with drum brakes back then,
much less drag and weight.

Carleen 07-19-2023 04:45 PM

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Some assume that it ended up like this

Carleen 07-19-2023 05:03 PM

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I dont know

Carleen 07-19-2023 05:45 PM

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Dont know the year

x44d80 07-19-2023 06:57 PM

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If this is the firewall of the 69, it would be easy to spot with this on the firewall with what appears to be a tach line sticking out of it.

62sedan 07-20-2023 12:08 PM

DIMS (Dallas International Motor Speedway) operated from mid-1969 up until sometime in 1973. I saw quite a few races there during those years as it was approx 6 miles from where I live. It was also the site of the Texas International Pop Festival in 1969.

black69 07-21-2023 04:01 PM

I was on another board (camaro crossram focused) and there is a person on there that picked Toy IV as a car to get presented with a top choice award at a recent show. Seems odd, if its fake as suggested here (by one, and no one countering that claim here), how something can be honored as real, if not true. Scratching my head day.

bracketracer-78 07-21-2023 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by black69 (Post 1627611)
I was on another board (camaro crossram focused) and there is a person on there that picked Toy IV as a car to get presented with a top choice award at a recent show. Seems odd, if its fake as suggested here (by one, and no one countering that claim here), how something can be honored as real, if not true. Scratching my head day.

There are quite a few people who believe or want to believe the story about the car represented as toy IV.

black69 07-21-2023 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bracketracer-78 (Post 1627614)
There are quite a few people who believe or want to believe the story about the car represented as toy IV.

I would think if a car is so interesting, it would have been trailered to Grumpy's home before he passed to atleast get his opinion. Pretty cool to learn it was a 67 z/28 to begin with (according to the story board with the car). The VIN or cowl tag should atleast confirm that, which is neat in itself.

bracketracer-78 07-21-2023 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by black69 (Post 1627616)
I would think if a car is so interesting, it would have been trailered to Grumpy's home before he passed to atleast get his opinion. Pretty cool to learn it was a 67 z/28 to begin with (according to the story board with the car). The VIN or cowl tag should atleast confirm that, which is neat in itself.

Take note that everytime the car is shown the cowl tag is covered with a piece of duct tape. Toy IV was butternut yellow from the factory. There is pictures of grumpy sitting in toy IV back in the day with the door open to confirm this. In the same pictures the supposed penski rollcage is nowhere to be seen. There are pictures of the car when Brooklyn heavy owned it and still no Penske installed roll cage. The guy who owns this car contacted Jenkins while grumpy was still alive and was promptly hung up on. There is alot more to the story if you look into the background on this car.

Carleen 07-21-2023 08:05 PM

When Dale and Vicki Bolla discovered Grumpy's Toy IV, I contacted Vicki and she told me that Grumpy's Toy IV started as a 1967 Camaro and it was the same Camaro that Bill Jenkins raced the 1967 Toy III. It was born as a red Camaro.
Everyone knows that Grumpy's Toy IV was a 1968 SS RS L89 Butternut Yellow Camaro. Grumpy's Toy III has been known for many years. Dale and Vicki Bolla contacted Bill Jenkins and wanted him to verify that they had Grumpy's Toy IV. Bill Jenkins went there and looked at the car but did not verify the Camaro. He was upset that he had spent a whole day going there to look at it. What they say they who know is that it is a 1967 Camaro ex SCCA race car

Carleen 07-22-2023 04:35 PM

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L78 M22 4-speed 3:55 posi HD rear springs. Built prior to the availability of the ducted hood.

Sold new at Roth Chev Paoli, PA.

Looks like a X Code Trim Tag

JoeC 07-22-2023 07:43 PM

The guy who claims to have Toy IV is in this youtube at the Camaro Nationals 2023 with his Camaro. Claims "Jenkins helped us put the car together". That's not what many of the Jenkins fans say. I'm surprised they allow the car to be on this display there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFmC...&start_radio=1

1967Z28 07-22-2023 11:18 PM

They don't know more than Bill Jenkins did and he did not certify it after being shown the car. It's not even the correct year and Bill had the original paperwork for his cars. The build date of 12D on the cowl tag is too early to be a '67 Z. I could go on but the car is not the car it claims to be.

JoeC 07-23-2023 11:56 AM

there is a under hood photo of Toy IV showing the 1968 trim tag. It is not a clear photo but you can see the 1968 Fed safety statement on the tag. A 1967 trim tag does not have the safety statement

Carleen 09-04-2023 10:47 PM

11.20 in this film

https://www.google.se/search?q=us+30...id:MbCOSSUc7jA

Pro Stock John 09-05-2023 03:01 AM

Doug Boyce would probably know who bought VI from Jenkins.

66cayne 09-05-2023 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rsconv68 (Post 1627248)
At the Nationals this past weekend.

looks like it has the 'new style' flat spoke Cragars on the front...

Pro Stock John 09-06-2023 01:10 AM

IV: MIA
V: burned in garage per Doug Boyce
VI: MIA

bracketracer-78 09-06-2023 04:45 PM

according to the book that Doug Boyce published, Toy IV was purchased by Brooklyn Heavy. After that the story gets a little foggy. I heard from a reliable source that toy IV was traded to Carman Rotunda for another 68 Camaro. At that time both cars were painted orange from what i heard. At some point in the late 70's early 80's toy IV was painted black and no longer had the RS grill. From what i heard toy IV is currently nothing more than a roof and 1/4 panels. The person that i got this information from does post on here from time to time and might chime in at some point.

Pro Stock John 09-06-2023 08:34 PM

Someone should be able to ask Carmen he's still alive. Who will do that for us?

JoeC 09-09-2023 01:10 AM

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this car is said to be Toy IV . It was known at the time it was sold but some how the car disappeared

Carleen 09-09-2023 11:16 AM

https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=139335

Pro Stock John 09-22-2023 04:20 AM

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Somebody is racing HR Drag Week in a tribute '69 Car. So cool.

dykstra 09-22-2023 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John (Post 1632476)
Somebody is racing HR Drag Week in a tribute '69 Car. So cool.

Super cool!!:beers:

EZ Nova 09-22-2023 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John (Post 1632476)
Somebody is racing HR Drag Week in a tribute '69 Car. So cool.

I always thought that would be cool to run a tribute in a class or like this guy, drag week. I'm online with a guy out of New York that runs an Orange '69 Camaro pump gas street car. It went as fast as 8.60. I said to him he should do a Brooklyn Heavy Wild Pumpkin tribute.

I've though a few times to do it with the '69 Baldwin Motion ZLX Camaro.

69M22Z 09-22-2023 12:08 PM

Great picture!!

Pro Stock John 09-22-2023 04:33 PM

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Did some digging, appears to be owned by Adam Longhorn on FB, nice job dude!


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