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- COPO - United States (https://www.yenko.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=94)

- - X22 COPO (https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=139200)

i did some checking your vin puts the car in late jan build, yenkos 2nd order was put in nov 11 68 the 2nd batch started to show up in feb that shows a 2 1/2 to 3 month separation, the first order was on oct 1 68 which puts your car right in that same time frame to build the first copos. also I have notes of a very early copo delivered to courtesy Chevrolet sebring ohio vin# 578203 hugger orange. so other dealers new pretty early on. maybe because of the 427 cars being built at norwood some local ohio dealers may have gotten wind of the copos being built and got in early and ordered some cars?

Its a 01B or 01C and 44 Yenko made before this.

I'm at work now and will not be home in 2 weeks

The Assembly manual indicates a hole relocation with-in the first month of production but is not for wiring, it was for the location of the piercing to mount the solenoid relay and it only moved the relay an inch or so. Another issue would be that the wiring has the grommet attached and is not really able to moved 2 feet (which is what would be required in order to install correctly.) Additionally Dave Beem's 12C ZL2 Z28 has the wiring in the normal location above the fuse box, as does every early ZL1 and Yenko I have ever laid eyes upon. Not saying it didn't happen however that is a long way from saying it did.

Another clue that she had Cowl Induction Hood is the plastic clips that hold the wires in place. Not only that, it says 3L2 on Firewall = ZL2.

Can we confirm if the first 50 Yenkos, or any other COPO does not have the hole above the fuse box?

Orange: Hole for Firewall Gutter
Yellow: Hole for Plastic clips ZL2 wire
Blue: Hole for ZL2 Relay
Green: Hole for Ground Strap

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Yellow: Hole for Plastic Clip ZL2 Wire

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: iluv69s</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can we confirm if the first 50 Yenkos, or any other COPO does not have the hole above the fuse box? </div></div>

It has to be a unrestored X66 or X22 COPO.
Restored ones can have been drilled above Fuse box.

I talked to Jerry M and tried to get him to comment about this here on Yenko.net.
He told me that he has looked at many early COPOs.
And it would be shame not to restore this one, but it will be expensive.

I looked at my unrestored big block ZL2 equipped car firewall and there are no holes where you circled yellow for wiring clip, the relay hole shows no indication of the star washer marks, the ground wire (green circle) is much higher than the factory ground location on my car. There seems to be another extra small hole between the blue circled relay hole and green circled ground wire hole.

The factory firewall has a number of dimples in the steel. The blue and yellow circled holes look to use one of the dimples (blue circle) and may just be holes for an aftermarket coil/ignition box that was firewall mounted. I've seen these paired holes many times in this area of the firewall.

If Jerry is prepared to verify this as a Copo by some extra firewall holes and hard to see crayon markings then by all means get his blessings on paper.

Good luck in your continued research on this car.

In such cases, your Big Block car is not a real ZL2 car.
It says in the AIM that the holes should be there
And as Firstgenaddict says that it must be as stated in the AIM

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Im sorry camaromb. Its not showing in the AIM that the hole yellow markt first picture should be there.
I was wrong.
But the second picture yellow mark should be there if it was a ZL2

Can anyone out there confirm that thier early Yenko or Copo does not have a hole above fuse box?? What about that Dec build ZL2 Z28? Sorry if this fact has been established already. Seems very important in this discussion.

I posted this earlier on CRG and wanted to start a discussion of early ZL2 Cars. but the wolf pack jumped at me at once, and the only thing they were intreserade of was to tell that the car was not a COPO.
I said I donot need to hear if I have a COPO or not.
It's not mentioned anything on the CRG about the first ZL2 cars can have the hole in other places.
The first one that told this for me was a member at Team Camaro and he wanted me to look at my Maybe Motion if she was a ZL2 car.
And then a few years later, there appeared a picture of an early Yenko who had the hole in the Center Firewall and the guys said early Cowl Induction Car.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Carleen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I posted this earlier on CRG and wanted to start a discussion of early ZL2 Cars. but the wolf pack jumped at me at once, and the only thing they were intreserade of was to tell that the car was not a COPO.
I said I donot need to hear if I have a COPO or not. </div></div>
I wasn't involved in the discussion, but I read it. You're telling a bunch of guys that see scammers on a daily basis, which are getting better and better, to "trust you" that yours is a COPO. That's not going to happen if there is something there that doesn't add up for them. If you want to call your car "X", you're going to need to prove it if you don't want the questions. Honestly, I would think you would want that. That's half the fun sometimes. Think about all the clones out there. Some guys buy real deal cars for investments or just because they want them and they don't want a clone. If everyone took every Joe's word for it that their car was legit, the financial aspect of the hobby would tank. There would be no incentive for some to restore special cars when you could just re-body something and call it what you want.
I love it when people question this or that about my car. That way if there is something I wasn't aware of, I can figure it out. Different strokes for different folks, but don't get sensitive and defensive when guys on forums start questioning things. Many times they don't know and it's how everyone learns. I don't think you're going to get much sympathy here either. These men like to confirm claims just as much if not more so. Just my opinion and it's not to bash you, but to give you and others like you another perspective hopefully.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: iluv69s</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can anyone out there confirm that thier early Yenko or Copo does not have a hole above fuse box?? What about that Dec build ZL2 Z28? Sorry if this fact has been established already. Seems very important in this discussion. </div></div>

Dave Beems's 12C documented ZL2 car has the cowl induction piercing above the fusebox as does his 01B Yenko.

The hole shown in the photo below the speedo cable outlet is too small by orders of magnitude to feed the plastic connectors through, the fusebox piercing of 3/4 of an inch is required