Re: 1969 Camaro L78 conv ( came from east coast)
 

Glad the black light worked. There is no evidence there was ever a 4 there. I see more of the 2 in the non black light shot (the top corner, clear enough to define the size of the character). I see the left top portion of the X show up in the black light photo. All in all, looks like an X2 vs anything else. Any doubt, the untouched heater box confirms that (to me). I would never touch that glue, either.

Re: 1969 Camaro L78 conv ( came from east coast)
 

Bill thats very possible. I ended up taking the clamp off and trimming back the hoses before I installed the new one. Bob I didnt want to fool around with the glue I just left it.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bbbentley</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

My educated opinion is that would not give a conclusive answer.....There are so many variables that nothing conclusive could be measured from that pad thickness,IMO. </div></div>

X3

Re: 1969 Camaro L78 conv ( came from east coast)
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bergy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I agree. The pad dimension is established in the machining operation that locates the block off of &quot;as cast&quot; pads. Since the castings varied slightly - the thickness of the machined pad varied as well. One &quot;tell&quot; however, is the &quot;lip&quot; on the water pump casting when it bolts up to the block (the distance that the water pump sticks above or below the pad). Since the water pump mounting bolt holes are established from the same locating pads as the head face, there should be some consistency in &quot;lip&quot; area. I've seen some &quot;original&quot; stamps where the water pump sticks up way above the pad stamp area. It's not a 100% &quot;tell&quot; of a decked block, but certainly bad juju. JMHO </div></div>

Hi Bruce, wouldn't that assume that the water pump is factory born with original [not only an OEM unit but also to the car]? What was the sequence of installation at the factory? If the water pump was installed at the time of the broaching process (which in my opinion established absolute deck height) than maybe the observation holds weight but if we do not understand the process of broaching then I respectfully disagree and I think we could get in trouble using it as a means of passing judgment on what could be an original pad stamp.

Dan

Re: 1969 Camaro L78 conv ( came from east coast)
 

I recieved a letter back from PA dept of transpoertation it gave me the last registered owner in Pa. The car was last registered in Collinsville Pa in 2005 so it looks like it spent most its life in Pa, not really much to go on but at least its something.

Re: 1969 Camaro L78 conv ( came from east coast)
 

I made a mistake it was from Douglassville PA it sucks getting old.

Re: 1969 Camaro L78 conv ( came from east coast)
 

Dan - The qualified dimension is between the broached pad face and the threaded hole for the water pump attachment. If that dimension is too small, the pad could have been decked.

Re: 1969 Camaro L78 conv ( came from east coast)
 

John, I would say, take the car on a trip, and spend a few key days in the area. That looks like a small town. Take it to the best turn out car show (I see there is one there, with a quick search). That is a unique stand out car, somebody will know it.

Also call the local town NAPA and other car shops, somebody may know it that way too. Maybe call the paint shops in town, if its been repainted once (which I believe it was).

I have had good luck doing things like above. Small town = good news.

Re: 1969 Camaro L78 conv ( came from east coast)
 

call Marlin too.

Re: 1969 Camaro L78 conv ( came from east coast)
 

Small town, Marlin probably knows the car.

Re: 1969 Camaro L78 conv ( came from east coast)
 

Douglassville? I moved to Douglassville in 2000, and have a fair amount of connections with the locals. What am I looking for exactly? What is the last registration date on the title search results, sometimes there is a listing at the bottom....

Re: 1969 Camaro L78 conv ( came from east coast)
 

The last registration in Douglassville was in 2005. I PM you a message

Re: 1969 Camaro L78 conv ( came from east coast)
 

Wow! that's rather recent, I should be able to dig up something.....

Re: 1969 Camaro L78 conv ( came from east coast)
 

YOU are the man M!

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According to Google maps, he lives a 1/2 mile away.

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Whoa. Marlin is your man.. Very nice. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

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And....with 30&quot; of snow, it'll take an hour to get there! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]

Re: 1969 Camaro L78 conv ( came from east coast)
 

I was going thru some old posts last night and noticed a while back KGR posted about a original Z he found. That car was built 11D and mine was built 11C. Here are pictures of the trans stamps interesting how close the assembly dates are. I didnt know how to copy the pictures so I took a picture of them on my computer screen. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...8-dsc09882.jpg

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...9-dsc09883.jpg

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...rans_stamp.jpg

Re: 1969 Camaro L78 conv ( came from east coast)
 

John, take off one of the fuel line clips and see if it is blue behind the clip, and brand new black on the frame. The combination of those two things being evident will tell you the 3/8 fuel line was never changed.

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I had to take the engine out of the car so I took a tracing of the trans and compared it to the engine. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...1-dsc09979.jpg

Re: 1969 Camaro L78 conv ( came from east coast)
 

I think the VINS are the same gang.

No paper I presume?

Wasn't a similar car certified by McNeish last year?
I thought the owner wanted 250k or so for it, it was a hugger orange 375 conv.

Re: 1969 Camaro L78 conv ( came from east coast)
 

I immediately noticed the &quot;7&quot; is higher on the block stamp and lower on the tranny stamp... only because I have seen that before.

I believe (PLEASE someone correct me if I am wrong) that the gang holder may have held the individual stamps fairly tight from left to right, but not so much up and down. Have a tranny around here somewhere with the second to last digit clearly lower than the rest of the characters.

Re: 1969 Camaro L78 conv ( came from east coast)
 

Lynn,

You are spot on. The holder does have movement as you describe, and there are some good reasons for some variation as well.

Re: 1969 Camaro L78 conv ( came from east coast)
 

Yes I believe there was a survivor automatic HO L78 conv that was documented last year. The car was at the MCACN show this year. Mine is a 4 speed but not a survivor but does retain a lot of its originality.

Finally after almost 2 years Jerry MacNeish was able to come out and certify the car.

Have to agree with Bill on this, that looks to be a fuel/vac line hose clamp as an attempt to
secure it tighter to the switch....should be easy fit, cut a little off and reinsert.

Great car!

11c Trans.stamp
 

Stumbled across this thread and thought of my 11c built car ,here's pic of the trans. stamp witch seems to be in the same area as yours.Just another picture to compare.thanks Marc.

Yes Eddie I did trim them and put them on Headlights been working great for almost 2 years.
Marc sure looks like the same guy stamped both transmissions. Is it yours or just a picture you found on the internet

The trans. is born with my sbc ss camaro,wish it was the last 3 digits of my VIN but its all good. Your ssl78 camaro is nice as is your drive train.

Ok thanks marc, I am hoping to find a few more big block engine assy date stampings in this time frame.

I finally am getting around to get rid of the houndstooth interior and install the correct one. I pulled off the seat covers and found the original interior under it so I guess I had a original interior car and didnt even know it.

Wow.... That's cool. Was it in good shape?

/R

Hi is the original comfort weave interior for sale?

Thanks Gregg

that is a cool discovery!!

The interior is actually pretty good the rear seat and passenger seat was in vgc. The driver seat has some wear and ripping in the seams.
I sure wish I could have bought this car before the guy I bought it from got his hands on it, he sure took a lot of originality out of the car. The picture I posted on the 1st page is from some time when he had it sure looks like it still had the comfort weave interior. I believe he bought the car in 2003 and the PUI interior is dated 2007.

So, I noticed B. Conrad on a service call next door over the Summer, so I ran over to talk to him. He's got quite a story on this car, I've not read the whole thread - but suffice to say that its been through a few engines!!! :grin: Honestly, I was more interested in his health - he damn near died last year when his heart exploded....

If you need to talk to him, I can PM you his business number - he's a cool guy, easy to talk to and into Rat Rods now! :eek:

I actually did talk to him after I bought the car and at the time he told me he only had the car a little while. He said he did some ac work for the guy and the car was part of the deal and all he knew about the car it was a big block, did good burn outs and never checked what motor was in the car. He said he was a mopar guy. You could pm me his number I have it some where