Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

Beautiful car and a blast to drive I am sure.

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

That car is just spectacular....nicely done!!

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

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Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

What a beautiful car and nice job on the details! Nice to see another Biscayne surface. I have to ask, why did they put a fake cowl tag on the car? Was it originally a small block/glide car?

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

I have to ask, why did they put a fake cowl tag on the car WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THIS ?

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

Speechless! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

&quot;Saturday, Saturday.......in lane 1 is the show quality '66 427 of Don Breen running B/S&quot;
Remember......that IS why these cars were built way back then. Could also have dropped down to C/S with a little extra weight.
Wow, that car is nice, gotta be the nicest example out there. Very nice job on the build. Any race history known???

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HAD 5 NEW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I have to ask, why did they put a fake cowl tag on the car WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THIS ? </div></div>

Are you the owner? ( thought maybe since you wrote it all in caps)

Can you tell me if the window sticker and engine block are both original to the car? 2H doesn't appear to have been used on the fullsize cars, at least in 66. There is a documented 66 Biscayne 2dr L72 with original dealer invoice that shows heater delete and that code was not on the tag. Makes sense since it was all bolt on items.

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

Hmmmm... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img]

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

The tag doesn't look fake. Just looks cleaned up or it could even be a replacement tag.

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

what is a replacement tag?? isn,t that called a fake?

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

Don sent the last two photos to me and asked me to post them here......that is all I know.

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

Is Don the user &quot;HAD 5 NEW&quot;?

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

Ok, so what I've heard is the previous owner had bought some parts from a friend of mine and told my friend that he was building a clone. The previous owner then sold it on ebay. I don't know at what stage of the build it was at when it went on ebay. That's all I know at this point. If the facts are true, that may explain why a few things are out of place.

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

Don asked me to post this:

&quot; VERY CORRECT RECREATION OF A L72 CAR . THE GUY HAD ROUNDED UP PARTS FOR IT FOR 15 YEARS THAT I BOUGHT IT FROM.&quot;

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Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

... Don,

... Great job [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif[/img]

... That is one beautiful car [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/Can-I-Have-It.gif[/img]

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

lets get this right before it gets out of whack,nowhere has it been said that this is a real L72 but it has been done to as near as possible as a real one. I bought this car from a guy that had bought the car ( 6 cyl 3spd all tinted glass )15 years ago and put it in dry az storage. he then had bought every piece he could find to make it an L72 car. all engine pieces, trans, tach, shifter, steering wheel and 12 bolt rear end are correct 66 pieces. even the wheels are the correct 66 14x6 wheels. I put the car on ebay and the guy that bought it had me do the car.he wanted the car marina blue. for all that don't know it marina blue was only available on the impala line in the full size bodies. I had a new trim tag made to match the car. the car still has the 6 cyl correct vin tag on the drivers door pillar . this car will never be advertised or sold as a correct L72 car!

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

...and there you have it! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Did you think that Don would try to sneak one by the illustrious collective expertise of sYc? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

Like I said before... Don's work is awesome. Don...send me some pics of Bella...or we're gonna have to come and visit her!

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

I don't think it was ever suggested that anybody was trying to sneak something by. I simply asked the reason for the fake tag, and quickly got a full caps question back at me asking &quot;WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THIS ?&quot; perhaps in defense to me questioning the tag's authenticity. Now three days later the same person has stated that they in fact had the tag made, and I presume the window sticker as well. That's fine, except that the tag has incorrect codes on it. It doesn't encourage anything good for the hobby, where the sea of cars with fake tags keeps getting bigger and bigger. Just my opinion.

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

Very very beautiful car and work!

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

My father had a 66 L72 Biscayne from Bast Chevrolet and it was Marina Blue. He bought it new so it was possible to get one Marina Blue. The car came out amazing!

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

Marina blue was available on the 66 Biscaynes.....I had one...it was original paint 6 cly. car.

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tarrytown SS427s</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> It doesn't encourage anything good for the hobby, where the sea of cars with fake tags keeps getting bigger and bigger. Just my opinion. </div></div>

I would agree with this. I love clones. Nothing at all wrong with building a super sport or whatever out of a base model. However, I think a line is crossed when the tags get changed. While the original builder / owner may never represent the car as something it is not, who know what kind of fraud will occur 20 years from now when the car changes hands a few times.

Clone away, but leave the cowl tag as delivered by GM. JMO.

Beautiful car, by the way. You did an amazing job on it!

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: novadude</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tarrytown SS427s</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> It doesn't encourage anything good for the hobby, where the sea of cars with fake tags keeps getting bigger and bigger. Just my opinion. </div></div>

I would agree with this. I love clones. Nothing at all wrong with building a super sport or whatever out of a base model. However, I think a line is crossed when the tags get changed. While the original builder / owner may never represent the car as something it is not, who know what kind of fraud will occur 20 years from now when the car changes hands a few times.

Clone away, but leave the cowl tag as delivered by GM. JMO.

Beautiful car, by the way. You did an amazing job on it! </div></div>

X2 -- some of us cannot afford the &quot;real thing&quot; and build a clone/tribute type vehicle ... the line is crossed when it is passed off as the &quot;real deal&quot; to an unsuspecting buyer. TAZ

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: earntaz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: novadude</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tarrytown SS427s</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> It doesn't encourage anything good for the hobby, where the sea of cars with fake tags keeps getting bigger and bigger. Just my opinion. </div></div>

I would agree with this. I love clones. Nothing at all wrong with building a super sport or whatever out of a base model. However, I think a line is crossed when the tags get changed. While the original builder / owner may never represent the car as something it is not, who know what kind of fraud will occur 20 years from now when the car changes hands a few times.

Clone away, but leave the cowl tag as delivered by GM. JMO.

Beautiful car, by the way. You did an amazing job on it! </div></div>

X2 -- some of us cannot afford the &quot;real thing&quot; and build a clone/tribute type vehicle ... the line is crossed when it is passed off as the &quot;real deal&quot; to an unsuspecting buyer. TAZ</div></div>

This is an interesting thread...I agree 100% with TAZ's comment above. I suppose that cloning is a form of flattery in one respect. However, the downstream effect for some quote: 'unsuspecting buyer' isn't going to be pretty.

For those of us that do have an original 1966 L72 Biscayne (or other rare vehicle), I can only hope that when the time comes for me to sell my car it is appreciated for what it really is. Time will tell....

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

The 8 or 6 cyl.engine is denoted in the vin so unless vin is changed it's easy to tell if it was a 6. And that's a really beautiful car!

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

Lets all go back and read this post AGAIN.Maybe it will sink in this time! lets get this right before it gets out of whack,nowhere has it been said that this is a real L72 but it has been done to as near as possible as a real one. I bought this car from a guy that had bought the car ( 6 cyl 3spd all tinted glass )15 years ago and put it in dry az storage. he then had bought every piece he could find to make it an L72 car. all engine pieces, trans, tach, shifter, steering wheel and 12 bolt rear end are correct 66 pieces. even the wheels are the correct 66 14x6 wheels. I put the car on ebay and the guy that bought it had me do the car.he wanted the car marina blue. for all that don't know it marina blue was only available on the impala line in the full size bodies. I had a new trim tag made to match the car. the car still has the 6 cyl correct vin tag on the drivers door pillar . this car will never be advertised or sold as a correct L72 car! If you look at the dealer brochure you will see an astrek by Marina blue* Look and see that it says Caprice and Impala and Impala Super Sport only !#634482 - 11/14/15 08:17 AM

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

I was simply pointing out that even down the road 6 cyl cars could be told from 8 cyl cars by the vin no matter the time. It was not meant to question your car in any way and if I offended you I'm sorry. I think your car is extremely nice and it's good to see all the correct parts on it.

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

X2!!!

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

Beautiful car!!!

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

I don't think anyone here is questioning how nice this car is, it's a beautifully done car. The issue here is that you changed the trim tag. A trim tag should never be changed on a car for any reason.....you already state that the car is a clone or tribute so why change the tag? For me personally, I would stay far away from any car that has had the trim tag changed, and I'm sure many others feel the same. The car itself is absolutely beautiful but I think you should re install the original tag to avoid problems down the road....the car is what it is and having the original tag won't hurt a thing.

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

Should have mentioned in the first post that the car was a tribute. It wasn't mentioned for several pages so the confusion and question asking is a result of that as well as the TT.

The car is fantastic, BTW.

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

X2...until someone called you out it was never mentioned the car was a clone...but it's very nice either way


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427TJ</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Should have mentioned in the first post that the car was a tribute. It wasn't mentioned for several pages so the confusion and question asking is a result of that as well as the TT.

The car is fantastic, BTW. </div></div>

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: novadude</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tarrytown SS427s</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> It doesn't encourage anything good for the hobby, where the sea of cars with fake tags keeps getting bigger and bigger. Just my opinion. </div></div>

I would agree with this. I love clones. Nothing at all wrong with building a super sport or whatever out of a base model. However, I think a line is crossed when the tags get changed. While the original builder / owner may never represent the car as something it is not, who know what kind of fraud will occur 20 years from now when the car changes hands a few times.

Clone away, but leave the cowl tag as delivered by GM. JMO.

Beautiful car, by the way. You did an amazing job on it! </div></div>Well said.

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

Should have mentioned in the first post that the car was a tribute. It wasn't mentioned for several pages so the confusion and question asking is a result of that as well as the TT
I did not start this post,if you notice the first time I said anything. I said it was a recreation. I build cars for people and build them how they want them. I will do nothing illegal when building them and what they do with them when they get them is their business.

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HAD 5 NEW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I will do nothing illegal when building them and what they do with them when they get them is their business. </div></div>


That's what the honest people on this board are trying to guard against.

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

I'm curious. What codes were on the original tag?

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

I looked through the scheduled price lists for 66. Interesting that marina blue, lemonwood yellow and chateau slate are listed as not available on belair and biscayne in the first printing. However, later in the model year they are listed with certain interiors as an &quot;acceptable combination&quot;! Learned something new. I have only one Marina Blue biscayne in my list that I could find. No bel airs.

Re: '66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TAR6569</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm curious. What codes were on the original tag? </div></div> E only on trim tag. Like I said it was a 6 cyl 3 speed car with all tinted glass.