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I remember a neighbor had an Impala convertible in this color when I was a kid and I loved it.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TimG</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I remember a neighbor had an Impala convertible in this color when I was a kid and I loved it. </div></div>
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Wow this thread has a lot of input....
What a color brings out in us...... O I don't mind it on someone else's car.....just not mine ! I parted out an Impala SS HDTP as pictured ....no body wanted to buy sheet metal from it. They said they didn't want pink parts on their car..... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/whistle.gif[/img] |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Royal Plum </div></div>
Royal Plum got it's start as Plum Mist Metallic in Canada in 1966. In the Nova and Acadian line, it was an SS and SD color only. Was that the same for 1966 Chevelle and Impala in Canada? In fact, it was the only dedicated Nova SS and Acadian SD color. You could have any other colors you wanted and any two tone combinations. When I was a young disc jockey, I was doing an on location broadcast at our local Chevrolet dealer for the 1965 model introduction. There was a beautiful Evening Orchid/white trim Impala SS as the showroom center piece. Nobody had noticed, except me, that it had a 327 emblem on the left front fender and 283 on the right. So it was in the mid 60's. Bob |
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There ya go....Confirmed Proof of Identity crisis !!.
Even the assembly workers were dumbfounded by its personality disorder......lmao..... |
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I know in 1966 it was available for the Riviera and possibly others - maybe the Toronado?
Mid-year 1966, Pontiac released it too but I've never seen one in this color. It is perhaps my favorite color from the era. Love Iris Mist too. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JayR</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Royal Plum got it's start as Plum Mist Metallic in Canada in 1966. In the Nova and Acadian line, it was an SS and SD color only. Was that the same for 1966 Chevelle and Impala in Canada? In fact, it was the only dedicated Nova SS and Acadian SD color. You could have any other colors you wanted and any two tone combinations. When I was a young disc jockey, I was doing an on location broadcast at our local Chevrolet dealer for the 1965 model introduction. There was a beautiful Evening Orchid/white trim Impala SS as the showroom center piece. Nobody had noticed, except me, that it had a 327 emblem on the left front fender and 283 on the right. So it was in the mid 60's. Bob </div></div> |
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Absolutely my all time favorite '65 GTO color. 20 years ago I got to drive an Iris Mist/Ivory/Ivory '65 GTO convertible, 3x2 4speed with Hurst Wheels. It's still the standard by which I judge....
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That is a pretty Goat -- dig the white interior ... TAZ
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I love that color.
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In 1962 Tangier Shrine Corvette Patrol got approval through Chevrolet COPO program to paint there 1962 Corvettes a Cadillac color called Royal Heather Amethyst. Similar to Iris Mist or Evening Orchard.
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Tracker1, that's the car, the exact interior color and all.....cool.
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I really don't mind the color, but as some of you who have seen my Camaro, that I don't shy away from bright colors doesn't come as a surprise. I think it pairs better with the early-mid 60's cars like that Corvette above, the Impala and '65 GTO better than the '69 Camaro Z.
That said, I really, truly wish the public would start buying more cars that aren't silver/black or white. Sheesh people, have some individuality, and don't get me started on the whole black wheel thing... |
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the fact that it got to 170 and it took 200k to buy it is astounding
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Mecum site says the bid goes on at 160K as the final bid.
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true Charlie, still astonishing though
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If the bids were real then the hobby just passed judgement on the pedigree issues with the car that have been raised on other forums.
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I don't recall "the hobby" being present when Jerry & I spent two hours examining this car before it was restored.
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I gave my old '70 Nova to my Dad, and when he restored / modifed it, he chose to paint it 1965 Evening Orchid. Sharp eyed observers will also note that we did something a little different with the hood too. Also changed the large 70-72 marker lights to something "period", but a little cleaner (hint: think '69 Chevy product) [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif[/img]
http://home.comcast.net/~john.sm/hood2.JPG |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nasblu</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In 1962 Tangier Shrine Corvette Patrol got approval through Chevrolet COPO program to paint there 1962 Corvettes a Cadillac color called Royal Heather Amethyst. Similar to Iris Mist or Evening Orchard.
</div></div> Now, this car in the year 1962....is nice.... A deeper pigment . . Still, its an era color....out of vogue in '69 JMNSHO |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: novadude</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I gave my old '70 Nova to my Dad, and when he restored / modifed it, he chose to paint it 1965 Evening Orchid. Sharp eyed observers will also note that we did something a little different with the hood too. Also changed the large 70-72 marker lights to something "period", but a little cleaner (hint: think '69 Chevy product) [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif[/img]
http://home.comcast.net/~john.sm/hood2.JPG </div></div> I like that. 67 Chevelle hood vents if I'm not mistaken (raised section too of course). |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Day2_69Z</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Now, this car in the year 1962....is nice.... A deeper pigment . . Still, its an era color....out of vogue in '69 </div></div> For a performance car, perhaps, but what about an Electra convertible? |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: William</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't recall "the hobby" being present when Jerry & I spent two hours examining this car before it was restored. </div></div>
I concur, I think its just a masterful job of original owner whipping things up to a fever pitch prior to the auction. If you two said it was silver and the "--" stood for stripe delete, that's what I'd take to the bank, notarized statements from salesmen and owner be damned. If he's so adamant where's the original bill of sale saying evening orchid special order paint? |
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Did you miss the pics with the door panels off showing the Evening Orchid overspray ?
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I looked at all the pics during the restoration and original paint / overspray was evident in many places . KP
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We were there Charlie. You and everyone else were not. My opinion of what we saw has not changed one bit.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: William</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We were there Charlie. You and everyone else were not. My opinion of what we saw has not changed one bit. </div></div>
Is there any pre-restoration photos out there? |
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Because if this was me, I would have taken about 1,000 photos documenting an original Evening Orchid 1969 Camaro Z28 prior to restoring it.
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I guess it will always be a topic of debate that will never be fully answered. But even a rank amateur like me can color correct a cell phone pic to be any number of colors. I can make that pic show lime metallic green on the inside of the door with the candy maroon on the door sill.
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http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/t...psa94e44a0.png
First photo is of the cowl side pod taken by the owner around 2012. Second photo is a snip of a photo of the car taken around 1970-color matches the 2012 photo. Third photo is a restored EO '65 Impala. Fourth photo taken by the owner is the car in question during restoration. You be the judge. |
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I do not see Cortez in the photo what I see is subject to lighting, fade and shadow.
IR paint scanner would have been helpful here |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KENNY PASCOE</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I looked at all the pics during the restoration and original paint / overspray was evident in many places . KP </div></div>
Did you see Cortez Silver or Evening Orchid ? |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JRC99</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like that. 67 Chevelle hood vents if I'm not mistaken (raised section too of course). </div></div>
Yes. We had a real '67 SS hood hanging on the wall with MAJOR rot on the front edge. Got to comparing it to the nova hood and realized size and proportions were the same. We took the whole center from the Chevelle hood, cut the center out of the Nova hood, and used the MIG to combine the two. Funny thing is that many people at car cruises that didn't know Novas just assumed it came that way. |
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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...p9160174_2.jpg
For what its worth, a picture of the door panel being pulled back to show what would appear to be an unmolested weather barrier with the factory tape and sealers still in place, along with the unpainted brown door panel clip inserts. I personally know Clem and the Grabiak family. Why would they not know what they ordered in the fall of 1968?..BKH |
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We also peeled the door panel as shown in the photo. Mostly primer with a thin coat of paint; dust and dirt visible in the photo. Look at the finish near the clip retainer.
What we saw is represented by the first two of the four photos-silver. At the time, we concluded the car was Cortez Silver stripe delete. All we knew going into this was that it had - B paint. We did not know of the EO claim and had not seen the 1970 photo of it. The original owner was not involved at that time. Based on what we saw, EO was ridiculous and remains so. Not for an instant did I believe that car had ever been EO. Later on when photos of the car dismantled were posted it was apparent the OE color had a lavender tint. A few people capable of intelligent debate posed another theory: The car may have been '69 GM color code #81. Olds called it Flamingo Silver; Buick Sunset Silver. Since then I have seen a '69 Olds in that color. If you're standing next to the car it looks silver. From a distance, definitely not silver. But nowhere near as dark as EO. Cortez Silver? #81 Silver? Certainly one of the two. All I know is what it wasn't. |
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So the two of you did the same thing to that door panel and you didn't see the purple color ? Isn't it possible that maybe you just didn't take notice because you weren't looking for it ?
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As I stated the paint under the door panel is mostly primer with a light top coat. We also looked at several other areas on the car. How about concentrating on the photos I posted? Particularly the cowl side pod photo taken by the owner.
We spent two hours examining the car inside a building and outside in natural light. Two hours. |
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The is the primer on some hidden areas on the famous survivor that has been discussed for quite some time
Hugger Survivor http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...e%20primer.jpg |
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So you guys spent two hours and never saw any of the purple that people are posting pics of ? Did you see the area in the above pic ? Did you get a pic ?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: William</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We also peeled the door panel as shown in the photo. Mostly primer with a thin coat of paint; dust and dirt visible in the photo. Look at the finish near the clip retainer.
What we saw is represented by the first two of the four photos-silver. At the time, we concluded the car was Cortez Silver stripe delete. All we knew going into this was that it had - B paint. We did not know of the EO claim and had not seen the 1970 photo of it. The original owner was not involved at that time. Based on what we saw, EO was ridiculous and remains so. Not for an instant did I believe that car had ever been EO. Later on when photos of the car dismantled were posted it was apparent the OE color had a lavender tint. A few people capable of intelligent debate posed another theory: The car may have been '69 GM color code #81. Olds called it Flamingo Silver; Buick Sunset Silver. Since then I have seen a '69 Olds in that color. If you're standing next to the car it looks silver. From a distance, definitely not silver. But nowhere near as dark as EO. Cortez Silver? #81 Silver? Certainly one of the two. All I know is what it wasn't. </div></div> a few observations.....unless I am seeing it wrong, it looks like they painted the bottom of the original weatherstrip when they painted the car without taping it at all...which happens on a cheaper paint job.So assuming that is primer on the inside of the door, why would there be no primer on the clip retainers??? with all due respect William, I think I could have believed it was cortez silver if I had no clue of the possible EO connection...it seems the original owner and also atleast one witness knew the car being EO back in the day..... jmho |
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