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All of the burn out getting ready for the races. That is a lot of burnouts to get to 79,000 miles.
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My last postings are over a year old .these next updates are from the summer of 2002. The front clip was removed and the subframe removed to replace with one that didn’t have a big dent in it. I had it blasted and epoxy prime red until I got around to finish and assembly.
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With the new frame all prepped it was time to take the old one out.
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With the frame waiting, I assembled the final stages of the freshly built 302. It’s dated March 23 1968 and the car is an April 13 build. Notice the faint MO still on the block.
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The rear suspension had all been finished and exhaust installed. I added a rear sway bar from a 69 Nova and installed KYB shocks painted Koni Orange ,that’s actually Chevrolet Engine Orange.
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Lookin' great Paul,keep up the good work!
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At this point I was going to re assemble the car and break in the new driveline. As my Olds 442 was about to come back to me I decided to send the Camaro for painting (Nov 2022).
So with the front clip loosely in place and all trim and door hardware removed off it went. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds All the detail work I did was carefully covered up and the frame will be removed for the firewall paint and preparation. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds |
The car was dormant in Marks shop until 3 weeks ago as he had other work.
Remember ,this is a central Oregon car showing no signs of rust anywhere. Well none showing. There were some in the rear glass channel. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds All repairs were done and new studs installed, https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds |
Mark went on to rebuild the door hinges and then test fits the doors and fenders for gaps.
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We are now down to the last 10 days. Factory seams were cleared of lead and all window channels cleaned, DTM was applied to bare metal while Mark works on other body panels.
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The car had a few visible dents in it. Top of left fender,right quarter panel and a prev repair on the left QP.
One that surprised us both was one on the roof. The windshield appeared to be the original yet this old dent was there. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds. |
Last week Mark focused on the doors and fenders, all were rust free and both doors were free of any dents.
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Looks great Paul!:biggthumpup:
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First time I've seen this thread and it is very interesting. The undercoating you referred to earlier appears very similar to what is on my '67 LOS car. The extension panel having some rust is to be expected, but what really caught my eye was all the "extra" holes in it and the right quarter panel flange. Wondering what that is for. My extension panel across the bottom was mostly non-existent, so I have no idea if it had those too. My original quarter panels don't have the extra holes. I like seeing the gobbed up braze in the corners too. I'm trying to replicate that, but it is a smoother application. My bodyman just laughs at me and said I should plug all those joint gaps with seam sealer and move on, but he was production for 50 years and doesn't understand how to slow down and preserve/replicate original detail.
The dent in the roof MAY have been done at the factory and repaired there. I worked at a Ford factory in St Paul for the 1972 model year and it was amazing the freak accidents that happened and were butchery "fixed", painted and sent to the dealer. If only they could talk. As I remove 4 layers of paint and gallons of high build primer from mine, it appears it was used in a demo derby in a past life...:frown: Yours is pristine in comparison, congrats...:biggthumpup: |
Very cool! Thanks for posting your progress.
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----Can't wait for more, Paul! That's one of my all time favorite colors. This Z should be stunning done.....Bill S
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Latest progress was getting the doors done in DTM, then work on the Left quarter. Prior damage was starting to show, paint was scraped off with a razor blade, then ground down.
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Hi Paul, I am following along. I know that you had been looking forever for a Camaro in this color. So glad you found one!:beers:
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My Corvette bronze 68 Z/28 is the first Camaro I ever purchased. had it since March 1976...Love it. I'm following along also. Keep up the good work....Joe
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great pics of a really nice car. I know I have never seen this color in person on a camro unless at best if was used on a 68 vette.
In some of your pictures years back, you show a front tire that looks like a blue streak radial on the correct wheels, and the tires looks really cool, no rounded edges. Can you share more on those tires? I am having issues myself pulling the trigger on ordering goodyear E70 -15 tires for my 68/z (not wanting to wait that long). great thread! -bob |
Mondays work on the Camaro, found some prior damage on the left rear QP. Mark is an amazing fabricator and will make a replacement piece.
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Should have included this engine,sub frame earlier. Rebuilt correct date coded MO block, all components are date coded between Jan 9 (distributor and Alternator) Water pump, fuel pump and starting motor are Mar. Carb is April 2, Block is Mar 23 and Heads are late Feb casting, trans is Feb 1968. I have all the smog stuff but decided to stick with headers.
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thanks on the tire info, they do look good, just some white paint on the goodyear font and they look good to me!! way too nice to be rollers. Wish I had a set.
Again, looks like your car is coming along great. I got ziebart tar stuff all over my 68z, engine compartment, underbody. WD40 seems to take it off without damage, slow process. |
Thursday Feb 2 shop update. All the paint is now off and prev minor damage has been corrected to todays restoration standards.
Rear valance had a crease and was fixed with filler. Mark has re worked the metal back to O filler needed. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds Super clean quarter panel. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds This may be all until next week, next steps will be hood and trunk panels, valances and header panel. |
Why did you remove the lead from the 1/4 seams?
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Old lead,might react to modern fillers and or paints.
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This week, metal finishing wrapped up, mysterious dent in room massaged out.
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Turning out really well!!
I hope to stop by one day and go for a rip!!! Ryan W31 |
Luv it! It's coming along nicely...Can't wait to see the completed version.
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Looks great. Has there been issues with the original lead with certain paint types? I'm not a paint guy so just trying to learn.
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Just catching up on this thread. Professional restorer for sure - great work!
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I didn't look back to see; did Mark use a different filler in place of lead? Or did he just use new lead? Would be interested to know. |
I will ask what he plans to use, he has mostly done convertibles for me so leaded roof seams have not been an issue. On my Olds convertibles the QP seam behind the trunk lid was not lead.
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Guessing one of the aluminum reinforced fillers.
My experience is that even the regular two part fillers (with a catalyst) shrink some over time. I haven't tried the aluminum reinforced. |
Here is Mark’s response as to why he removes old Lead.
Lead releases gases over the years. Looked at many cars in my 30yrs and lots of pimpling can be seen in these lead areas. So why then risk something like that on the body which can be very costly to fix after its all refinished ? To me its standard procedure I’ve done to every restoration in 30 years. All I have ever used to replace it is short strand fibre glass reinforced filler over top of epoxy, never seen an issue on any cars I have completed and have seen many of my projects years to decades later. They have stood the test of time. |
Work continues,nothing to get excited about. High spot near back of roof reworked.
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Nothing to get excited about ??!! Who are you kidding, the metal work alone is perfection. I WISH I had a person to do that, instead of all the filler work most throw on and call good. I have a bodyman working on my Camaro and he filled the lead seam with the same, short strand, fiberglass. Unfortunately, as a production person, he doesn't see the need to do perfect metal finishing and uses too much filler, in my opinion, to get everything blocked out.
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