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: nice ride Joe.

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damn Joe. I admire your fortitude to drive your car in any weather. Just thinking about the rain and my Torino gives me the heebie jeebies!

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: camarojoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok, my opinion. Radials look stupid on a musclecar. Sorry, they do. BFG's, Eagle ST's, whatever... they just look wrong. I have worn out several sets of bias repro tires on several different cars. I just finished putting together a set of Wide Tread GT's because my current set is worn out, and put over 27,000 miles on a '32 highboy with repop bias ply Firestone skinnies on it for every mile. Not just sissy sunny sunday afternoon stuff either.... The car has seen rain, snow, sleet, hail, and multiple 500+ mile trips at 55-75 mph... never a problem. My only gripe is they wear out faster than a radial, but if you have a weekend cruiser they're gonna last you YEARS even if they do only get about 12,000-15,000 miles of wear out of them if you don't want to run them to the cords. I'm just getting ready to mount up my 3rd set on the hot rod. I'd never consider putting radials on it or any old car.</div></div>

Amen [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] ,
When I bought my 1970 LS6 Chevelle 5 years ago it came with the pathetic looking T/A's on the car, within 2 weeks I took them off and the Polyglas went on the car.
Again guys, just put your hand on the steering wheel and hang on as those Polyglas will take you anywhere. I love the ride and looks of Polyglas tires [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

P.S. &gt;&gt; I run a 1970 Chevelle SS club on Facebook and I will not allow a photo of a restored SS with Radial Tires in my club to be posted as I consider cars with Radials to be a Cosmetic Modification that does not finish a restored car off properly. Seems people like my format as I am closing in on 5000 members.
Sorry I just don't get it when a person restores there car to original but slaps on Radials YUK. I never will.
Also I love the MCACN show because it has tons of Polyglas tires on about 95% of the cars.

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My $.02, anybody can drive on radials. It take a man to handle bias plies. That said, although they are more expensive, the Good Years from Rusty ride and handle much better than Firestones. A lot of this depends on the status of your suspension components. If you have a worn out suspension, the radials will be much more forgiving. I realize that roughly 1200 for a good set of GYs vs. 4-500 for T/As is a big difference, but putting the black side out on 70 series, not 45-60 series, at least helps mask the offense.

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Back in the day (1966) I bought a used 63' Vette. It had stock tires (of course -- bias ply) and it was time to replace the rubber. I was talked into replacing the old rubber with Michelin tires. The change in handling, ride, etc. was awesome.

I understand the desire to keep a vehicle stock in appearance -- but as a non-carpet car, radials are superior.

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those that that actually DRIVE cars on bias plies (more than the local car show) ... um, well are different than I am

*I* prefer a nice handling car with a nice ride
(however all my tires get the blackball treatment or letters mounted inside)

I also REPLACE my daily driver tires EVERY year with NEW tires

*I* want the nice ride and the GRIP that only FRESH tires provide

(I can also sell the take off tires and recoup 75-100% of my yearly investment)

I learned from 40+ years of motorsports activity about age and heat cycling on tires

FRESH is the ONLY way to go

(my opinion, YMMV )

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Was that before or after you burned the tires off at Beeline ... LOL

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Nothing beats the ride on radials..and nothing beats the little white lettered sidewalls of the late 1960's and early 1970s.

Someone should invent a stick-on applique of the small lettered <span style="font-style: italic">&quot;POLYGLAS GT&quot;</span> lettering that can be applied to the blackwall side of a set of modern radials. That would be a cool invention.

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It's definitely a lot cheaper to roast the TAs.

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Maybe this will help the decision. Bias ply's look SOOO good. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...arts%20003.jpg

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The trick look of the 60s/70s GoodYears and Firestones was never questioned -- have to agree with the comment that a tire manufacture needs to take a modern radial design and make them look close to the 60s/70s rubber.

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ooooooohhh so nice.... Hows the firestones do? What size are you running?


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: stritestoration</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Maybe this will help the decision. Bias ply's look SOOO good. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...arts%20003.jpg </div></div>

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I sold the car but it was not horrible. and I do not recall the size. I don't think they make that style anymore so they may have been old. But as mentioned before the good years seem better than the firestones.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: earntaz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The trick look of the 60s/70s GoodYears and Firestones was never questioned -- have to agree with the comment that a tire manufacture needs to take a modern radial design and make them look close to the 60s/70s rubber. </div></div> ***x2 on that,why can't they see that.

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Guys,

Diamondback Radials is just starting to make exactly what we've all been waiting for! They make radial tires in the style of the old bias plys on only a few models right now. I think they are only for the Trifives that take the 6.70x15s, and a few others. I'm hoping more come for the Muscle Car crowd next. I'm building a 49 Chevy truck and they now make those bias ply style tires in radial form, so they are getting there. Factory bias ply look with the radial technology/handling. Not the redline/whitewall BFG look we all commonly see from Coker. Just wanted to pass that along and check their website for more info.

Cheers

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That would be great. I know a zillion guys that are looking for just that. Modern radials for muscle cars with old school look of the Goodyear or Firestone with small white letters.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SS4Real</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That would be great. I know a zillion guys that are looking for just that. Modern radials for muscle cars with old school look of the Goodyear or Firestone with small white letters. </div></div>

I know I would be..

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There is definitely a market ...

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----There definetly is a market, but even though I posted about a radial tire re-design, I still like bias-plys. I think its partly a function of age (on my part) and that elusive old-time feel that some of us old farts actually find entertaining. I know that when I dent the floor board with the throttle pedal I love the feel......Bill S

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Here's a twist for ya. How bout a set of old school radial T/A's form the early 70's with the small letters and square tire design like the bias. I have a few sets of those. 14-15 inches.

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----That's what Im talkin about, Don!!!......Bill S

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: stritestoration</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Maybe this will help the decision. Bias ply's look SOOO good. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...arts%20003.jpg</div></div>

the LOOK, I agree

my 69 4spd endura bumper Daytona Yellow Camaro RS convertible LOOKED great, but drove NOTHING like my 70 Z28, that is why I sold the 69 when I got married. I was not DRIVING the 69 as much anymore. The 70 DROVE better and *I* like driving the cars, not looking at them

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X2!!!

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Coker has created a line of radials for antiques and hot rods that supposedly &quot;look&quot; like a bias ply. It probably won't be long until they make something similar for musclecars.

&quot;Bias-Ply Look&quot; Radials


I'll admit they look better than most modern radials, but they still are a far cry from the real thing as far as looks go in my opinion. I think the general construction of a radial is so much different from a bias-ply that it's almost impossible to make a radial truly look the same. As long as they reproduce brand new reproduction bias tires I'm happy. Anyone doing any serious performance driving/autocrossing/etc. in an old car is likely building a pro touring style car with big wheels and isn't interested in a tall sidewall radial that looks like an original bias ply anyhow. As long as your suspension components aren't worn out the repro bias tires work just fine and look like they're supposed to.

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I like the way my Camaro changes lanes on the freeway all by itself. I'm sticking with the Coker F70s.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427TJ</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like the way my Camaro changes lanes on the freeway all by itself. I'm sticking with the Coker F70s. </div></div>


Thats a rare option on the camaro, don't you know? Auto lane change!

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It's funny on what we get used to.I made a deal with a guy a while ago to trade a GN for 1972 GS350 in North Carolina.The GS was original and in excellent shape.It had radials and drove as well as any 40 year old car should.The only problem I noticed was the road noice on the highway.Don't forget I just got out of a 1987 GN which is an excellent driving car and was quiet for a performance car.Pulling over in a truck stop for lunch,I checked the underpad and it was fine.Factory paint/tar on the floor and undercoated underneath.There was nothing wrong with the car.It's just the way they were.All I worked on at the time was GNs and I hadn't driven an old car in a few years.I owned and drove lots of A bodys back in the day.I thought they were the best driving cars at the time.

When you bought these cars new with Polyglas tires they drove fine.Even in the rain.No dought they drove and handled much better with radials,but we didn't know any better.The truck ruts weren't as bad back then and maybe the old shocks matched to the bias tires helped.I don't know.Half the time we had slicks and skinnies with 90/10s and no front sway bar.NP.lol.