Re: Harry Mann 68 L78 / L88 Camaro
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: camaromb</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I remember when Jim Y. from the site had the car. He had said it was an L88 transplant for Harry Mann's grandson, the original owner. He had said he negotiated the price down because it didn't have the original engine and later found the L88 transplant paperwork from Harry Mann. A nice car that I had interest in at that time. Yes, keep the L88 in it and have fun. Maybe Jim can chime in on the history of the car. </div></div>

So the original owner was Harry Mann's Grandson? Jim and I have been playing phone tag and have not had a chance to chat yet.

FWIW, the L88 is going to stay!

Tim

Re: Harry Mann 68 L78 / L88 Camaro
 

I thought the original Safest Rust Remover which he used performed better on the shower method. -Didn't foam as much as Evapo-rust which is a copy of SRR.

Paul

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Hey Tim, can you take a video of the L88 running and maybe a few short revs? I'd love to hear that original L88 with headers...

Thanks,
Dan

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Undercarriage is CLEAN! Get that goofy coil spring spacer out of there...it will cause the coil to snap eventually....

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scuncio</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Undercarriage is CLEAN! Get that goofy coil spring spacer out of there...it will cause the coil to snap eventually.... </div></div>

You and I are on the same page!

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Re: Harry Mann 68 L78 / L88 Camaro
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MosportGreen66</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey Tim, can you take a video of the L88 running and maybe a few short revs? I'd love to hear that original L88 with headers...

Thanks,
Dan </div></div>

Sorry for the lousy sound quality. Much better in person!

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Re: Harry Mann 68 L78 / L88 Camaro
 

Absolutely stunning 68!!

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Wow [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]

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Remember to heat up the derusting liquid. The warmer it is, the better/faster it works. I used a waterproof aquarium heater and just plunked it down at the lowest point in the kiddie pool with a brick on it to keep it submerged.

Re: Harry Mann 68 L78 / L88 Camaro
 

I used Metal Rescue with a $10 Harbor Freight pump to swish the fluid around in the container I used to de-rust some rims. Worked great. Some great tricks here.

Phil Woj.

Re: Harry Mann 68 L78 / L88 Camaro
 

Tim's cool Camaro... Photos taken at a local car cruise in Cleveland, Oh., The Solon Commons. Photos taken a few years back... Very Nice Car!!! Rich

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Re: Harry Mann 68 L78 / L88 Camaro
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr. Chevy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tim's cool Camaro... Photos taken at a local car cruise in Cleveland, Oh., The Solon Commons. Photos taken a few years back... Very Nice Car!!! Rich

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I'd like to find the wheels, license plates, and ignition box that was in there.

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Some more pics before this gets the NJ Steve treatment!

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I believe there to be slicks in here once upon a time

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Overspray pattern

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Holes for the old ignition box

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Re: Harry Mann 68 L78 / L88 Camaro
 

Is that a hole in the top of that axle tube?

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: earntaz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is that a hole in the top of that axle tube? </div></div>

I do not believe so [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img]

Re: Harry Mann 68 L78 / L88 Camaro
 

Awesome ride! I think I an help in the ignition box department.



Jason

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Hi Tim, the photobucket link to your video does not work. Can you repost?

Thanks,
Dan

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MosportGreen66</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hi Tim, the photobucket link to your video does not work. Can you repost?

Thanks,
Dan </div></div>

I have been trying to fix it. It is just kicking my a$$

Re: Harry Mann 68 L78 / L88 Camaro
 

I just checked out this thread. What a cool Day 2 car. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Kurt

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http://s1043.photobucket.com/user/napa68...?sort=3&amp;o=0

This is a close as I can seem to get it!

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and we're off!

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Thanks for fixing the sound link. Love this car, I would drive the wheels off of it AS IS!

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Nice! What is your air temperature out there? The stuff works a lot better when it, and the ambient temperature are warm.

If you cover the kiddie pool with a plastic sheet and put the sump in the bottom, it allows for the liquid to gather and flow down into one main spot instead of a big flat bottomed kiddy pool. Picture a swimming pool cover after a rainstorm, all the water gathers in the center. Takes much less liquid to do the job. Less evaporation, too.

Also, the process really works better if you steam clean and/or degrease everything first. You get much less contamination of the liquid and more clean surface area for the anti-rust liquid to attack.

Re: Harry Mann 68 L78 / L88 Camaro
 

I have the shop @ 72 degrees. I also have a heater in the solution and that ranges from 71 to 76 (depending where in the pool it is)

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We now have an ignition box!

Thanks Jason! (SuperNovaSS)

Tim

Re: Harry Mann 68 L78 / L88 Camaro
 

The box could not have gone to a better home.

Jason

Re: Harry Mann 68 L78 / L88 Camaro
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: napa68</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We now have an ignition box!

Thanks Jason! (SuperNovaSS)

Tim </div></div>


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Re: Harry Mann 68 L78 / L88 Camaro
 

Sweet NOS type Day 2 parts!

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Very cool Tim! Gonna look great!

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Update pics please

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The rust remover process did not work as well as I thought is would. I can only assume it is due to dirt.

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I then started to clean the wheel wells and degrease the front control arms. I suppose a gentle steam cleaning will take this quite a bit further.

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Re: Harry Mann 68 L78 / L88 Camaro
 

I see improvement. Consult with the master: Sensa NJ Steve for details on how to get the biggest impact. Thanks for taking us on your transition! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Re: Harry Mann 68 L78 / L88 Camaro
 

You really have to do the steam cleaning/degreasing first. All that dirt and oil contaminate the derusting fluid and render it inert before it can even get a chance to work. That was why I pressure washed the underside of my car first. It cleans all the contaminants off of your parts and provides a clean (non oily) area to work with.

Any oil on the parts basically acts as a protective shield preventing the derusting liquid from touching the surface. If I were you I would rent a steam cleaner or a pressure washer (using hot water) and then buy a new batch of derusting fluid.

What does it say on the shampoo bottles? LATHER, RINSE, REPEAT. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Re: Harry Mann 68 L78 / L88 Camaro
 

Interesting...looks like the driver's side upper ball joint is riveted and the pass side is bolted??

Wilma

very cool car!!

Re: Harry Mann 68 L78 / L88 Camaro
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WILMASBOYL78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Interesting...looks like the driver's side upper ball joint is riveted and the pass side is bolted??

Wilma

very cool car!! </div></div>

You are correct. Kinda surprised me for a 25k car. Judging from the caked on grease from one side to the other, it must have been that way from early on.

Tim

Re: Harry Mann 68 L78 / L88 Camaro
 

Awesome Day 2 find Tim! Look forward to following your preservation process and progress. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

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With Jake's inspiration, I took the HM Camaro out for it's first spin around the block.

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Sharp!

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Love it!