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Re: My 70 LS-6 project

Any pictures of the car when you purchased it, before restoration? Of course the ebay auction listing from the previous thread is long gone. Where did the car come from to be so clean and have such limited rust? Very nice car....

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Glad I could help in some small way [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

Keep the pics coming...I love pics of cool stuff!

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Sorry for the long winded explanation but here goes.This car was purchased new in Park city Kansas and resided in Garden city Kansas until i bought it in 2005.
Good news is Kansas is a title state and all previous owners were listed and all but one contacted by me so the history is fairly clear.

1-Original owner ordered car as a L-78 in dark blue with no options from a small "gas station dealer". He wanted the fastest Chevelle that was offered as he had a 68 L-78 new and then a 69 L-34 new and was not happy with the 69.He must have been thrilled with the 70 but only owned it from the end of January 70 till April 70.

2-Second owner was a self proclaimed street racer and did a little super stock racing with car as well.He told me he genuinely cared for the car as it was "his baby". While in his care he took out the LS-6 and installed a L-88, The LS-6 would remain complete in his garage until 1984. This owner had car from April 70 until June 1974.

3-Third owner had the car a short time as it was re possessed by the bank for non payment ($1170 bucks HA !)This is documented by titles listing lein holder as said bank.

4-Fourth owner ruined the car but subsequently saved it. He managed this feat by butchering the tunnel with what looked like a dull screw driver to install a four speed,painted the car red oxide primer,drip rail moldings and windshield moldings included so it looked like a sleeper. (His words not mine)
The death blow was when he crashed out ruining the fenders,inners,grille and the HD radiator. He told me the car never was driven again and this was summer 1975.

5-Second owner tried to buy it back but car was looking "shabby"and thought better of it.
6-Car was purchased by two others and sat in various garages from 1975 till 2003 when the gentleman I got it from finally got it after a long 28 years of trying to obtain it.

The guy i bought it from (Gary) says that he had tried to buy this car since 1970 as it was the only car to beat him in his 69 L-88 vette "allegedly". He was always a step behind but kept track of it.
Gary bought the original engine from second owner in 1984,The original trans in late 90's and obtained the car finally in 03 when sadly he was diagnosed with lymphoma and died in mid 2006.

The only people that knew what the car was were owners 1,2 and Gary as all others thought it was beat up chevelle.

I will be posting pics of all the original parts that some how made it through all these years, Sorry for long post.

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Wow, Thats absolutely amazing how nice that car looks naked. I had to put a bib on drooling over the pictures. Keep the pictures coming.

Mike

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Man that's quite a history. Thanks for taking the time to share the story. Does anyone know if late L78 ordered cars were automatically upgraded to LS6's or would the order just kick back as Not Available?

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They couldn't automatically upgrade w/o a paying customer agreeing & paying beforehand on the other end,so kicked back to the ordering salesman as not available,and if a paying customer was waiting,was told and asked what he wanted to do next.

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Tough question, do you want an LS6 vs the L78 you ordered.......hmmm

I love L78's but an LS6 is a nice alternative. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]

Ryan

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Awesome work, and history!

RichPern

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Agreed, Although i could not talk to the first owner about this due to his wife not letting me talk to him "about some old car".
I tried twice and she was nasty, her wig must have been on to tight. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]

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Nice! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

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Just a few more until I find the treasure trove of random pics that look like they were taken with a potato.

https://www.yenko.net/attachments/use...1-img_0179.jpg

https://www.yenko.net/attachments/use...2-img_0182.jpg

https://www.yenko.net/attachments/use...3-img_0183.jpg

[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

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Great pictures Ian. I have found most plants dip the pinion bumper brace in black paint whereas the Leeds cars always seem to be natural steel just like what yours appears to have been. What is that under the bolt head on the right side? Almost looks like remnents of a metal tag.

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Thanks, The metal tag is the same thickness and material as a tag you would find on a 4 speed id tag.

The pinion snubber is bare steel as there were no drips on it like front control arms and other chassis pieces that i noticed.

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Interesting. I have never seen that before and wonder what it might be for.

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----Your frame looks like so many other un-boxed frames on cars Ive seen and owned that were run hard. I call it "frame-itis". All pushed up in the un-boxed areas due to multiple tire swaps along with absolutely no thought as to where the jack was being placed. Easy enough to fix usually.
----I guess I may have missed something but was this car originally an L78 or an LS6?......Bill S

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Love the Hood Art [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
This thread brings back memories of when i went through all my stuff on this forum while i was rebuilding my LS6 Drivetrain, a lot of the same stuff but my car is a 4 speed. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Z15 SS 454</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Rick I have another SS427 plate for you for your birthday.

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Wow! It will be hard to top that. Thank you! It will fit nicely with our COPO and various other plates. I think I will hang this one right over my desk..... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]

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Yes it is fun documenting these gems for sure. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

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I thought this "907" air cleaner was wrong for an LS-6 car due to it's position of the crank case breather tube not being 45 degrees?

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You are right Bill, a 907 does not have the correct base for a 70. Looks like a real nice project you have there Ian. Like most projects, a few incorrect parts get collected and you learn along the way what's right and what's wrong. My favorite color for a 70 is Fathom Blue. Looks like it's going to be awesome. I look forward to more pics.
Chris

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I dont think hes using the 907 for this car. if you look at the pics theres a 70 base in there.

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Yes you caught me [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/blush.gif[/img],The 907 was for a customers 68 that i got scorched on.
I do however have the original base and lid for this car.
As i was taking pics i was placing things on the table from two different shelves (also note the incorrect engine lift brackets) :)(have 3 -70's)

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Thanks Chris, You probably dont remember but the NOS side view mirror i got from you about 8 years ago at Carlilse. You had a spot and were with Larry (mostly chevelle) and were very helpful. Thanks again! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

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Hi Ian,
Small world. I'm pretty close to NH any help I can be don't hesitate to ask. Love your shop, wish I could keep mine that clean.
Chris
508-529-1970

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Great thread with detailed pictures. Thanks for sharing.

One question.....I'm looking at the oil dipstick. The loop/handle is round not flat. It seems that everyone wants the flat one. Is there a difference is years or manufacturers? Can you tell us what, if any, part number is stamped on it?

https://www.yenko.net/attachments/use...07_1303481.jpg

Here are a some pictures of a coupld of dipsticks that I have. Neither of them have a part number on them.

https://www.yenko.net/attachments/use...dipstick_1.jpg

https://www.yenko.net/attachments/use...dipstick_4.jpg

https://www.yenko.net/attachments/use...dipstick_7.jpg

https://www.yenko.net/attachments/use...stick_ii_3.jpg

https://www.yenko.net/attachments/use...stick_ii_2.jpg

https://www.yenko.net/attachments/use...stick_ii_6.jpg

Kurt

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Kurt,
Both flat handle and round handle sticks were used in 70. The trick is in the specification wording, 69-70 sticks should read USE GM 6041-M-QUALITY MS OIL. I don't think the SE rating came out till later. But original 70's have popped up with round handles and the 6041 spec.
Chris

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Man My Chevelle was built and spent most of it's life in california and it wasn't that clean. Nice Car. Can't wait to see it done.

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Kurt, Good call it has the SE rating, now its only good for whipping the dude that sold it to me. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/youguysrock.gif[/img]

Also I do appreciate all the helpful replys and positive comments so that when it comes time to go back together it will be correct.