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If I owned one I may feel differently about these boots. But being a fellow without one, I just don't really get excited about them. Poking a hole in a standard boot seems like a simple enough solution.
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500.00 wouldn't get me excited either..lol
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I'm saving mine for a full scholarship to stanford for my daughter in a few more years. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif[/img]
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mr.4speed</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes but in my opinion the hurst ram rod is a far superior shifter </div></div>
I disagree on this one. Hurst made better shifters by far over Mr Gasket but the Mr. Gasket Vertical Gate was noted in the day to be THE shifter to have. For every Hurst ram Rod sold, Mr Gasket sold 500 Vertical Gates-don't know the exact # but just making a point here. I think it was Super Stock mag who did a comparison and it was hands down Mr. Gasket and also spoke with some credible speed shop owners from the day over the years and the return customer comments for the Vertical Gate style shifters was Mr Gasket. Again this is personal preference. |
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I gotta agree. I think the Mr. Gasket straight-line shifter was the superior of the two.
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I have had two guys that rebuild shifters tell me that they prefer the Ram Rod over the V-Gate because the V-Gate would get hung up in between the gates. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]
I've never used either one but may possibly put my Ram Rod in someday. Kurt |
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The V-gate is sloppy feeling, the Ram Rod is smoother and tighter. I think the reason is because of the simple design using less parts.
High sell numbers doesn't always mean better product. Even though I love the Vega, we all know the flaws that line carried. 1,966,157 total were sold. |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mr.4speed</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes but in my opinion the hurst ram rod is a far superior shifter</div></div> +1 for sure! It has the distinct ergonomic advantage of always having the trigger the same distance from the T-handle, no matter which gear you're in.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mr.4speed</div><div class="ubbcode-body">nice kurt! have you noticed that the very early ramrods have a flat blade chrome reverse stick and the late ones have a round black stick.</div></div> Interesting. I always figured the round reverse stick was the early one because it was welded and the flat stick was riveted, which seems like it would be cheaper to produce. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/confused.gif[/img] |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mr.4speed</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i have a hurst catalog from 74 and it shows the round stick.
plus it seems that one out of every twenty or so on ebay has the flat stick so leeds me to believe less available means earlier. </div></div> I have a saved search that I've been watching for the past few years, and my impression has been that there's really a fairly close balance of the two. If anything, I thought the flat reverse lever was maybe slightly more common, but I haven't actually been counting... |
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Strange but to me that b&m shifter look like it has the wrong stick on it to wide
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You don't see these up for sale too often!!!!!!
Kurt Day Two Beiber Shifter https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...-9705-_571.jpg |
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Outside of the one shown in my Scuncio catalog....I've never seen one.Anyone ever used one? Looks a 1st-2nd lever than a 3rd-4th...?? How does the 2nd-3rd work? Is it a Vertigate with one more lever? Different...I can imagine the hole you'd need to hack for this one to fit.
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Think motorcycle shifter..1 lever upshifts by pulling backon it using a rotary index on the side cover. The other lever downshifts and the short lever with the knob works reverse.
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made in Doylestown, Pa. I believe. 20 minutes from here. We never ran any.
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It just looks like a a$$ ache waiting to happen.. a WOW factor for sure, but, I've had enough trouble with 4 speeds to know...Keep it simple. My right foot stays pressed to the floor ..... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img]
BIG |
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I have a complete Beiber shifter assembly as well.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69 Post Sedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How about a vintage Roll Control/Line Lock switch?
Roll Control </div></div> Wow! Pricey little fella! Tommy [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img] |
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can I add a early 70s winters shifter https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...5-gedc0354.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...6-gedc0353.jpg |
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Yes you may Andrew.....very cool!!!!!!
Kurt |
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Like the rev limitor on the left.
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Tell me more about early Winters shifter. I would not have guessed them to be that old. They are off my radar, but I do recall a friend having one in a Chevelle we installed a rollbar on around 1992.
Nice Demon. My wife had a Duster in high school. |
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Winters was originally established in 1958 in York Pennsylvania i was told this design was based originally in the early 70s and changed in 1980s to something similar to what they offer today the dead giveaway is the rectangular price on either side of the top plate any way this one came out of my buddies 1966 hemi belvedere II look up a hemi worth waiting for in hemmings muscle he is the original owner and bought it back for the guy in the article who restored it but he put back his b&m 60s so i got the winters
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I think the most exciting shifter was a good ol Muncie.lol.If you could power one of those and not miss you were a better driver than most.
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Power shift 2nd to 3rd gear in a Stock GM Muncie shifter........ Everyone here should know what that's like!
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Or lucky! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img]
I had one lock up at the interchange on my way to Maple Grove and stuck in between gears. As soon as I got her home, the Hurst went back in! Dave 67 Nova Boy |
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That's because you are a non driver!
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Sam,
I use more then 1st and reverse on my rides! LOL Many street/ race cars and all 4-speeds in my days...I got spoiled with the M-22 and Ram rod in my Black 57 Chevy W/5:38 Dave 67 Nova Boy |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mr.4speed</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps834bdaf2.jpg
http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/s...psdaedf121.jpg </div></div> A guy I met at Dover AFB in 75 had a Mr. Gasket unit in his 68 Z28. I was curious how it worked so he let me drive the car. First time for this shifter but not for a 4 speed. Going into 2nd I wasn't paying attention to where my middle finger was and I yanked so hard I caught my finger nail on the support loop for that front handle rod and ripped my nail completely off. I like the shifter but I've been gun shy since then. Really messy. Just curious if this has happened to anyone else or was it just a flook(sp). Been looking to buy one for my son when he gets his project going. |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: napa68</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ain't nothin hotter than a Ramrod hooked to a Rockcrusher! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img] </div></div>
X2!!! Dave 67 Nova Boy |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 67 Nova Boy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: napa68</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ain't nothin hotter than a Ramrod hooked to a Rockcrusher! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img] </div></div>
X2!!! Dave 67 Nova Boy </div></div> http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6a4c40aa.jpg |
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Very nice! turned out well. The boot is super nice as well! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif[/img]
Dave 67 Nova Boy |
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Another vintage Hurst Roll Control switch just sold. This one only went for $152, about $100 less than the last one!
Kurt LINK |
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It was the same seller says in the second listing " Re-listing due to non paying bidder ,this is a auction you bid you win you pay for it". Possible bidding up the last 2 bidders in first auction were in at over 250.00. A couple of weeks ago a complete 60"s hurst roll control in the box was on for a month and finally sold at 174.00 I believe.
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Makes ya think, how much to plastic chrome a new one?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mr.4speed</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/s...pscc3ae740.jpg
http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps617fb3c1.jpg http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/s...psbe4903df.jpg </div></div> This is the one in my car from Day 2! A guy on eBay has been trying to sell a brand new one for $1500.00 |
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Hey Jeff ...How are you doing ? That shifter was put in after we sold the car . We had modified and installed a shifter from a 1966 Grand Prix . It had the detents ground to make it work with the reverse pattern valve body .Neutral,1 and 2 were on the same level then the button had to be depressed for 3rd and also reverse and park.It was a $10 shifter that always worked flawlessly.I think the only aftermarket shifter available back then was a dualgate and it didnt like the reverse pattern.
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I'm fine. How you feelin?
See, I'm still learning, huh? When the car came from Norwood, was there a console or just the auto shift on the floor. |
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