Re: FS: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS Z/28 Lemans Blue
 

Is it me or do those front fender Rally Sport emblems look lower than usual.

Re: FS: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS Z/28 Lemans Blue
 

Good eye on those emblems, they are quite a bit lower than originals would be.

Re: FS: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS Z/28 Lemans Blue
 

The rallysport emblem looks to be located about the same height as the Camaro emblem ....May be it was a Friday car or Monday car ....

Re: FS: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS Z/28 Lemans Blue
 

Trim tag picture added. Call or email me if you are an interested buyer. I won't go into detail on the car through the forum.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sheitman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Trim tag picture added. Call or email me if you are an interested buyer. I won't go into detail on the car through the forum. </div></div>

Seems that if this were me I would want to clear the air in writing and have all of these questions answered.

FYI: One of the questions that was asked about your &quot;unrestored&quot; camaro was if it had spoilers originally. The front and rear spoiler were added. That option would be next to X33 on the trim tag and would read D80.

Re: FS: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS Z/28 Lemans Blue
 

um..........i'm confused.............

Re: FS: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS Z/28 Lemans Blue
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sheitman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Trim tag picture added. Call or email me if you are an interested buyer. I won't go into detail on the car through the forum. </div></div>


Why not go into detail here? I know that if I had ANY questions on a supposed un-restored 69 Camaro, this would be the FIRST place I would be asking questions. This site is where you will find some of the most knowledgeable people on the subject. It could help you sell it. You may have to change your description of the car though.

Re: FS: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS Z/28 Lemans Blue
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TDW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sheitman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Trim tag picture added. Call or email me if you are an interested buyer. I won't go into detail on the car through the forum. </div></div>

This site is where you will find some of the most knowledgeable people on the subject. </div></div>


obviously they didn't plan on that [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/thumbsdown.gif[/img]

Re: FS: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS Z/28 Lemans Blue
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Survivor 69/Z28</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sheitman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Trim tag picture added. Call or email me if you are an interested buyer. I won't go into detail on the car through the forum. </div></div>

Seems that if this were me I would want to clear the air in writing and have all of these questions answered.

FYI: One of the questions that was asked about your &quot;unrestored&quot; camaro was if it had spoilers originally. The front and rear spoiler were added. That option would be next to X33 on the trim tag and would read D80. </div></div>

No D80 on the trim tag of an 02D car. that didn't show up on the tags until later. The car could have the D80 option, but it would not be on the trim tag.

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Just an FYI. I spoke with Spencer last week and discussed why it was clearly not an &quot;unrestored&quot; car based on the pics. I had hoped/thought he would have modified the ad to reflect that the car had been restored at some point. As with any purchase let the buyer beware. I think at this point we are beating a dead horse.

Re: FS: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS Z/28 Lemans Blue
 

hit the delete button on the add.

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No D80 on the trim tag of an 02D car. that didn't show up on the tags until later. The car could have the D80 option, but it would not be on the trim tag.
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Could be, but I would tend not to be so possitive due to the other facts that we have discovered.

Re: FS: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS Z/28 Lemans Blue
 

I believe that use of D80 on the trim tags has been pinned down with'in a week or two.

Re: FS: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS Z/28 Lemans Blue
 

Peanut Gallery: My days do not consist of Forum bouncing. I do not spend all my time on forums just having conversation. My job is to sell car's, not just have conversation.

Having said that, if you are a interested buyer please contact me directly. I'm not going to write an essay on the forum. So far, I have had only one person contact me to ask about the history of the car.

My contact information is below. If you heard the story regarding this car, you may have a different viewpoint. Phone is ready and waiting.

Thank you.

Re: FS: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS Z/28 Lemans Blue
 

wow

class act.

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If your serious about your quota and its your job to sell cars than I would expect you would want to be knowledgeable about your product to the point where you would take some of the advice offered here. I certainly don't know you but just reading thru the ad and looking at the pics makes this car very suspicious to the point where if I was interested I'd run from it. This is going to be the case for many. I understand you may feel like your on the receiving end of a beating, but these are all good knowledgeable people just trying to help. Take advantage, if not then it may be best to pull the ad yourself if your not willing to learn. Good luck with your sale.

Re: FS: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS Z/28 Lemans Blue
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Survivor 69/Z28</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No D80 on the trim tag of an 02D car. that didn't show up on the tags until later. The car could have the D80 option, but it would not be on the trim tag.
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Could be, but I would tend not to be so possitive due to the other facts that we have discovered. [/quote]

Stefano is correct. We know within a couple of weeks when this practice started. The ONLY folks out there who believe an 02D tag &quot;could&quot; have a D80 designation imprinted are the poor suckers (along with the friends of those poor suckers) who unwittingly bought a car with a fake trim tag and are still holding out hope that just <span style="font-weight: bold">maybe</span> there were one or two of the earler cars that just happened to get a D80 imprint by some wild coincidence. What &quot;other facts&quot; have been discovered that would indicate a Feb. car getting a D80 imprint on the trim tag? Normally, those kinds of &quot;facts&quot; are nothing more than statements from some guy who says he has been in the hobby for 35 plus years and he has seen many early such examples. Fake tags have been around for over 24 years, and fake stamps even longer.

Re: FS: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS Z/28 Lemans Blue
 

If the story will make all the difference, then spill-it on your next post. I personally think you don't want a previous owner to contradict the story.

Re: FS: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS Z/28 Lemans Blue
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sheitman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Peanut Gallery: My days do not consist of Forum bouncing. I have a 10-15 car quota per month, so I do not spend all my time on forums just having conversation. My job is to sell car's, not just have conversation.</div></div>

What I read from your statement is that you and/or your dealership's motto is &quot;quantity, not quality sales.&quot; IMHO, that's not a very ethical way of selling anything, much less a fairly high dollar car. Based on my conversation with another member on this forum, you don't have much more information on this car than you've posted here, so I'm not sure why you're adamant about having people call you if they are serious. It's a nice car and I'm sure you'll find some rich guy from the DFW area with little knowledge of what it really is to buy it, but it sure isn't going to be anyone on this forum.

Re: FS: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS Z/28 Lemans Blue
 

Sales and marketing = sales. If your not marketing what your selling, your losing sales.

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If you know what you are talking about, I need a straight answer, not speculation.

How do you know this is a fake trim tag?

Only respond if you REALLY know the answer.

Re: FS: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS Z/28 Lemans Blue
 

The trim tag photo is down.


http://photos.ecarlist.com/ob/QB/TQ/.../Z7/Yg_800.jpg

even I can see this alternate emblem location.


* who's to say it's not a Monday or Friday car?

Re: FS: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS Z/28 Lemans Blue
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: x Baldwin Motion</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The trim tag photo is down. </div></div>

i believe the evidence has been &quot;misappropriated&quot;,watson.

http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/ima...ntess-howe.jpg

Re: FS: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS Z/28 Lemans Blue
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sheitman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you know what you are talking about, I need a straight answer, not speculation.

How do you know this is a fake trim tag?

Only respond if you REALLY know the answer.

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1. Not sure if the trim tag photo was removed and then put back up, but I can see it fine in the first post.
2. I don't know that anyone has called the trim tag a fake. If someone did, I missed the post.
3. The pic of the trim tag is not clear enough to determine if it is real or fake. I can see no obvious flaw on the tag itself that would indicate a fake. A clearer pic would help. I would like some input from Kurt S and Mark C after looking at a clear picture.

One poster indicated that HE did not believe the car came with spoilers because the D80 designation was not on the tag. I tried to correct that post by stating that NONE of the 02 cars would have the D80 designation on the tag, even if it had the D80 option. Fisher didn't start using that info on the trim tag of any cars for a few months after this car. In essence, I was stating that the tag had the correct information for an 02D Z/28 RS, regardless of whether it had spoilers.

No question this is a tough crowd. Sorry your first venture here has been somewhat negative. If you do hang around, you will find some of the most knowledgeable guys arouond on these cars.

Re: FS: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS Z/28 Lemans Blue
 

Trim Tag photo is still on the 1st page. I don't recall anyone saying it was fake. It looks fine to me. There was a side discussion about when the D80 code started appearing which this car does not have and should not have. Nice car just not a very accurate description by the seller IMHO.

Re: FS: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS Z/28 Lemans Blue
 

Good lookin ..A question about the D-80 option is that the bottom edge of the deck lid wouldn't have been striped correct with the spoiler installed at the factory? looks to have been restored at some point with firewall paint stripe or touchup of sorts ...also RS emblem placement ?? Is the correct jack in the trunk? Whats the rock bottom dollar????

Re: FS: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS Z/28 Lemans Blue
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ban617</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Whats the rock bottom dollar???? </div></div>

I suspect that's something that's best negotiated privately between the seller and a serious buyer.

Re: FS: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS Z/28 Lemans Blue
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">OK..the software now requires a name and email address. We will see how it works. </div></div>

What happend to this plan?

Re: FS: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS Z/28 Lemans Blue
 

The current ad, as I read it says its not 100% restored, so thus its not a survivor. The seller should get some credit for stepping up and listing the car here under the terms of satisfaction guarantee. Dont like the car, he has to take it back. Based on the mileage and the paperwork, its could be a great car to own (repainted or not). Maybe when they added the ZL2 hood, they painted the panel in front of the windshield to match the new hood. Regardless, what a nice car!

Re: FS: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS Z/28 Lemans Blue
 

That cowl tag is fine.

Re: FS: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS Z/28 Lemans Blue
 

I have turned down offer's of 50K and 55K. If you have a better offer in mind, give me a call and we can discuss it. Always have my phone with me.

Re: FS: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS Z/28 Lemans Blue
 

SOLD!!!