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You know, I've been thinking about traction aids alot lately, and it struck me that it wouldn't be terribly difficult to make an old set of ladder bars work like Cal Tracs: all they lack is a pivot point at the rear. You wouldn't be able to preload them like Cal Tracs, but that's probably a solvable problem...
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Cal Tracs are such a great piece. A local guy has a 8.5 tire Nova that runs low 8's on a mono leaf suspension.
A few people do not like them though because they won't follow instructions and tune them properly. A guy brought me a Challenger that was leaving hard left. After inspecting the Cal Tracs, he had them so far out of adjustment it was awful. Going back to slightly off neutral made the car run on a string. |
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The Nova Man,with Traction Bars,go for it. How do you think every body did it. It will be fun. *Paul* Yours would be better and greater too.
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How about Hemicolt trying to make cal tracs some day too. *Paul*Yours also would be better and greater too.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Plowman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Nova Man,with Traction Bars,go for it. How do you think every body did it. It will be fun. *Paul* Yours would be better and greater too. </div></div> I'm going to make Lakewood knock-offs and see how well I can hook with slapper bars, but I got to thinking about other types of traction aids and an idea popped into my head. It could be neat for someone who digs old school ladder bars.
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Anyone know when Mr. Gasket started making traction bars?
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I'll bet they started about 1970, but when those particular ones came about I don't know. Got any more pics or history?
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Here's a old set..I think..they were yellow at one time
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pxtx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'll bet they started about 1970, but when those particular ones came about I don't know. Got any more pics or history? </div></div>
No, that's all I have for a photo. Was just curious when Mr Gasket got into the traction bar business. I hadn't recalled seeing a set with a Mr Gasket sticker on them before. |
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I've been searching for a while for these Ansen bars. They are the competition "Super Ground Grabbers" and are real heavy duty. They are awesome!
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I found thease on ebay .I had the sticker remade .I dont know what year they are but they were for a mopar never seen another set for a mopar http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/p...2_091753-1.jpg .I put them on my 67 GTX
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nice underside Brent! Impressive D2 parts. Love the Dana 60 on your Chevy. Beastly looking. I'm going to need some more photos!!!!
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Thanks this is my Mopar [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]67 GTX
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Paul - those traction bars are GREAT! Very unusual and like you said....HD!!! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/shocked.gif[/img]
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Yo Brent...Members rides??? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]
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Bruce i need the GTX tail pannel waiting 9 months from metro to get one back order . [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]
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Okay Brent [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]
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Paul, this is the inboard shock mount that goes with those Ansen traction bars you have. I have the bars as well but they seem like a lot of overkill really. They are heavy and the hardware is heavy too. Ditched mine in favor of the Lakewoods.
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I POWDWER COATED MINE YELLOW THAT ARE MY 1979 Z28, THE CAR TO BE PAINTED IN MARCH 2012 BLACK ON BLACK 4 SP
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lwkitt427</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I POWDWER COATED MINE YELLOW THAT ARE MY 1979 Z28, THE CAR TO BE PAINTED IN MARCH 2012 BLACK ON BLACK 4 SP </div></div>
Pics? What do they look like and brand? |
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I'm fairly certain that those are Vega application being as short as they are.
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They are for a Vega.
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Not even a Cosworth powered Vega would need that kind of help... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img] I'm guessing that they didn't sell to many sets [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]
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Those were aimed toward the V-8 conversion market.
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Grump experimented with some different stuff. The bars with the clamp on the rear half of the spring were designed to stop the car from lifting too high in the rear,and promote the front end being pulled upward. The bars that went all the way to the back and had wheels on them were designed to work as wheelie bars that stopped the rear from lifting too far while not lifting the front end. Years later,fastest street car shootout racers used wheelie bars that mounted to the chassis on a pivot and pushed down on the rear axle for the same reason. I dont know the specs on the Grump bars,but I know his shop spawned off SRD race cars,so they were probably custom modified in house. I am thinking that you could make a set and be pretty close. I had a very old set of bars that were made with big square tube instead of rectanglular,and ended at the axle and the spring eye. I think the Grump bars were made of this type of tubing(maybe 3x3)
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These are for my 68, I think they are Ansen Ground Grabbers from what I have seen, My car came with different ones mounted but these came with the car along with alot of other parts and I like the look better.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichSchmidt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The bars with the clamp on the rear half of the spring were designed to stop the car from lifting too high in the rear,and promote the front end being pulled upward.</div></div>
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I just found these a couple days on Craigslist. I got them home and repaired some slight damage they had. I sandblasted and primed them to stop the rust from getting worse. I had two sets now; one set I'm going to put back on my car and one to hang on the wall.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...IMG_0421-1.jpg http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...IMG_0417-1.jpg http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...e/IMG_0426.jpg http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...e/IMG_0421.jpg http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...e/IMG_0420.jpg These are the ones that were on my car when I bought it in 1985. I sanblasted and repainted them a couple weeks ago. I'm removng the old school ladder bars floaters I put in the car in 1991. I twisted the housing in my car at the dragstrip and I'm going back to traction bars. http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...y/IMG_0381.jpg http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...y/IMG_0386.jpg |
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Took about a year to get my $35.00 swap meet find Ground Grabbers, stripped of many layers of black and red paint to base metal, cleaned up, dressed very minor burrs and sent to the platers for a quick zinc DiChromate plate job and installed. No sandblasting! Only Chem cleaning. There was an indication they were plated at some time during manufacturing. Additionally When touring a local Speed shop in Seattle (Relocated in Monroe Wa) Jim Greens performance Center. There is a Neat vintage photo of the store-counter front and on the wall are ground grabbers and I asked Jim Green if he rememberd selling them and he commented they were a "GOLDEN" color. This also prompted me to proceed with the plating of the bars.
Before https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-T...0/100_3021.JPG After https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-P...0/100_4449.JPG just learning to post pictures also The decal is a fake I had made up based on the logo in a print ad from a car mag of the period. installed on a 68 Camaro w/ multi leafs and Mr Gasket clamps on the front also. Have not test drove the car yet. Jim |
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great job returning them back to the proper color! Its fun to do the research!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69z28302</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jefferson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Did they ever offer white traction bars? I am getting bored of the yellow but don't want to lose the "day 2" look by going white.
</div></div> It looks like Sam's were white from the factory. Mike</div></div> Hi I just thought I would add that the Drag Dimensions trac bars of that style on Sams car were all white. they had designed something to go on the lower control arms on coil spring cars. white as well. thanks |
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<span style="font-size: 14pt">Here you go Al. This is the production photo you provided to me of <span style="font-style: italic">Drag Dimensions traction bars</span>.....
</span> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...psf2187e54.jpg <span style="font-size: 14pt">......and on my Nova (Al made these decals [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] ......</span> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...e/DSC_0648.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ps2b756ffd.jpg |
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Looks great still Sam. great info too.
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Your Nova is one of the best Day 2 cars ever.
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that is because it is a "real" Day-2 car and not a replica like most are. everything original to the car from Day-2 back in the day.
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That Deuce looks better everytime I see it. Beautiful.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: [email protected]</div><div class="ubbcode-body">that is because it is a "real" Day-2 car and not a replica like most are. everything original to the car from Day-2 back in the day. </div></div>
Sammy...did you just seperate Day2 into classes?...original Day2 and Clone Day2?... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/Charley.gif[/img] |
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