Re: Unrestored 1969 Yenko Camaro at Mecum
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stefano</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: black69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">it is hard for me to understand what I would get access to if I paid membership dues. I also would be concerned on interpretations of what is good.

For example, calling the below car 'great' just gets to me. So how would the registry describe the same car? great? or?
depends on who you ask, likely.

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbt...243&amp;page=5 </div></div>

This must be the twilight zone.

You brought the Blue Yenko into this thread not me.


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Stephano, maybe I am the only one in the twilight zone. But you got my attention when you posted below on THIS thread. You have only one yenko listed for sale on your website, so I assumed it was one of the 4 you brought into this thread.

here is what you wrote:

We have 4 great Yenko Cars going to auction. However Judi's Yenko is the only Yenko Camaro in the auction.

BTW......This is a good time to thank Tom, Rob, Marlin as well as many others who have helped document and track these special cars over the years.

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55Hardtop, please add information to your profile.

I have learned over the years that you have to stick around for a while to learn about things like this. The experts will probably chime in and tell you when the first Yenko with factory tach was delivered, but I believe it is correct that in the first ones had a Yenko-installed tach and the last ones had a factory-installed in-dash unit.

The first Yenko order of 50 COPO Camaros where ordered as X66-cars, and therefore they came with the blacked out rear valance.

It could be that he knew that 500 COPO Camaros had been built, even though he didn´t sell all of them. I believe he told Vince Piggins before the first order was placed that he would sell 500 Camaros, but then other dealers started placing orders.

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The 4 Yenkos I referenced which are listed on the Mecum site are:

1) Don and Judi's 1969 Yenko Super Camaro

2) Ed's one and only L88, Yenko Trans Am

3) The 1969 Yenko Chevelle featured in McClurg's Yenko Book

4) 1968 L71 427/435 Yenko sold Corvette

All &quot;Great&quot; Cars!

Re: Unrestored 1969 Yenko Camaro at Mecum
 

Bob; well, once again we see where jumping in without all of the facts (assuming) gets you. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/thumbsdown.gif[/img]

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It has been asked, why should some one contribute to this site, and what good is a registry if it is not public?

Well, I could give several reasons, but the best reason is being played out in a couple of other threads on this site. Where else could some one get such expert opinions, quick AND free?

Appears this car, at least the tag, is not legit.
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbt...550#Post449550




This car passed with flying colors, another supercar saved.
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthrea...true#Post448598

Re: Unrestored 1969 Yenko Camaro at Mecum
 

Mecum Monthly with 4 Yenkos

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Just got mine...some very cool cars featured. Even Judi's Yenko. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]

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Hey Judi, since Don is such a party poop, can I drive YOUR car??? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img]

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Tom - Thanks for posting your reply to the &quot;why should we...&quot; question. I agree with you completely. Even a simple question that I recently posted regarding horn restoration got two quick recommendations for reliable restorers. These may not be &quot;Supercar&quot; questions, but the help is invaluable none the less.
I'm a relative newcomer to this site, so hopefully you'll all forgive my ignorance of how the registry works. I think maybe some clarification would help a lot of the newer members. How does the registry part of this site work? Are all COPO cars included, or just dealer prep'ed cars? I have personally registered two of my 1969 COPO Camaros (non Yenko) and I have never heard another word. I don't know if the cars are registered, if they qualify for registration, or even if the registration was ever received. I know you're a busy guy, but I've never heard back from you or had you answer a PM. I wouldn't be posting this on the public part of the forum if I could get a return PM from you. Finally, if one of the members has a question about a Supercar that they have found, and they don't want to &quot;tip off&quot; the whole community about its existance - how do we find out if the car has been previously registered? Are the notes and files available even in verbal form? This is a good site Tom - I, for one, am just ignorant about how it works.

Now - sorry for hijacking this thread (again) - the subject car is just about the best one out there. Hope it does a shot at auction!!!!!

Re: Unrestored 1969 Yenko Camaro at Mecum
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sYc</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bob; well, once again we see where jumping in without all of the facts (assuming) gets you. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/thumbsdown.gif[/img]</div></div>

Hey tom, yes I assumed the blue yenko was 1 of the 4, my appologies to stephano and you on that front. As you can tell, I do not like that rebody car, and forever will let it go.

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Bob,

Apology accepted.

Stefano

Re: Unrestored 1969 Yenko Camaro at Mecum
 

All types of cars are sent to the registry, not just supercars. The majority of the info we receive, little, if anything is done, it is simply added to a file with other such cars. A few of them, such as ones new to the registry, we may do a follow up email, requesting more info, inviting them to the SCR, etc. Through the registry is how we know approximately how many supercars exist today.


For several years we had our lists up for all to see, but to be perfectly honest, it became too much of a PITA. Seems like weekly we were involved in some sort of heated discussion, at times getting personal, so we decided to go another route.

Requesting info on certain cars, what we provide, how we handle it, varies, depending on the car, the current owner, who is making the request and why. We do it both verbally and by email, and the majority of time, done in confidence.


To date we have never charged a fee, even for non paying members, for our services, though donations are accepted and appreciated.


Our goal 14 years ago was to promote and preserve the supercars, and I think we have done a pretty good job of it. And I say WE, as there have been many loyal members who have contributed to this success, not for gain, but for the good of the club and hobby.

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Will do, new to the board.

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Well I finally saw the blue yenko camaro get sold at Mecum Dallas for $140K. Does anyone know who bought it?
TV annoucers were stumped when it hammered.

Re: Unrestored 1969 Yenko Camaro at Mecum
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: black69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well I finally saw the blue yenko get sold at Mecum Dallas for $140K. I hope the notions on how the car was restored was clearly advertised (i.e. 'properly rebodied' as described in Hemmings Motor News, etc).


Is there a way to 'properly' rebody a car? as opposed to what? Are they saying there is some difference in this rebody and any other rebody? not trying to start anything regarding any car in specific...just curious in the wording....




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here is the new discription for a car having its cowl (top and bottom) moved to another 69 camaro body: extensive sheetmetal restoration. see below:

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...p;entryRow=224

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Given the price, it seems obvious that everyone knew the history of this Camaro. The way that I found out about it ... Stephano told me. He has been very straight-forward about the car. JMO, Ed

Re: Unrestored 1969 Yenko Camaro at Mecum
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: black69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">here is the new discription for a car having its cowl (top and bottom) moved to another 69 camaro body: extensive sheetmetal restoration. see below:

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...p;entryRow=224 </div></div>


Where exactly does it say the car was rebodied??? &quot;all three original VINs still on car&quot;

... ...are you kidding me??

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No, I wasn't kidding....all three original VINs are still on the Original cowl panels, which are on this car, based on my opinion.

I did not restore the car or see any restoration pictures, only as found pics.

Correct high end Yenko Clones are still bringing $50k, give or take.

The best original, unrestored Yenko Camaros are bringing Mid $300s or better.

The rest are somewhere inbetween, depending on their history, options, correctness, level of restoration etc...

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Wasnt a Yenko (not rebodied) recently sold for considerably less than 200k? 170k range?

Based on the Mecum ad only..it is not possible to tell this car was rebodied. With the known history of this car (and prior 'oops' trying to sell it as 'original body'), why did they just not write the 'full' truth instead of mincing words? Especially if the seller was willing to accept 'rebody' value for the car.

And I wonder if the buyer really knew what he/she was buying. I doubt it for that price...

Still does not seem like proper 'full' disclosure...(my opinion.)

With all due respect Stefano and Mecum, It seems that auctions such as this 'may' cause Mecum to lose some of it's credibility......

again, jmo

Re: Unrestored 1969 Yenko Camaro at Mecum
 

Why don't you take your PROBLEM to Mecum. Not here. JMO

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This thread started talking about one of the best original Yenko Camaros that are out there.... and now has progressed to talking about a &quot;re-bodied&quot; car....

..... Can we start a new thread on rebodied cars....
... so it does not distract from the original intention of this thread? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Re: Unrestored 1969 Yenko Camaro at Mecum
 

Sorry for getting sidetracked from the original thread....I did not read the contents of this thread way back from April. I was commentng on more recent posts.

And as far as dealing with 'my problem' with Mecum...isn't that thier link here on this site?

I have watched now for years people here discussing different cars and auctions similiar to this....ie..green Z-28...BJ Zl-1....

I hope we are not going to censor opinions here...

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Ill say the orange Yenko goes for $320k