Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

<span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold"> <span style="font-size: 26pt"> <span style="color: #FF0000">...double dare!.... </span></span> </span></span>

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

I Double Dog Dare YOU [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: njsteve</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I Double Dog Dare YOU [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img] </div></div>

Steve...you have to wear the purple pants! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

Still [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif[/img] over the Charger. The 70's fashion show sounds funny. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif[/img]

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

...&quot;funny&quot; in a good way, RIGHT?!! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/laugh.gif[/img]

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

Spent the day printing out some photos and text for the display at MCACN next week.

This one is the sequence of the three prior owners, and their reunions with the car, plus the original mechanic and his son on the right (four generations of his family worked at Suburban Dodge over the years)

I have enough of these frames now, with the original documentation and paperwork, I can encircle the entire car!

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t...wnerrecord.jpg


If you are at the show, come on by and say hi. I'll be in the SYC display. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

Now that the Scottsdale auctions are all over, feel free to give me a call in case you didn't find the car of your dreams out west. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]

I am still looking for a new adoptive parent for the Charger.

Drop me line and we can talk.

Here's another vintage photo of the car taken in 1987, when Pete Ianelli owned it. It was stored under that blue tarp, in what resembled a wildlife preserve for vintage musclecars. Hibernating in the yard was a blue 69 COPO Camaro, a 70 L78 Camaro, a 70 LS6 El Camino, a green 69 Hemi GTX, a 73 Superduty T/A and a bunch of other equally rare beasts.

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t...harger1987.jpg

-NJSteve

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

$285 K for this car??
Man that is a lot of money for that car, i would say you are way over the market value for today.

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

Yes, it is a lot of money for the car.

Try to find another one. - you won't because they made only one.

Try to find another hemi car with 43 years of completely documented ownership.

Or unrestored with 17,000 miles, still riding on its original 1970, owner installed wheels and tires.

With the only known set of dealer-installed and ironclad documented, Scat Pack hemi headers.

With every single piece of documentation since even before it was built.

As for market value? Show me a comparitive sale of an unrestored 426 Hemi, four speed,70 Charger R/T-SE. There was a yellow 70 hemi R/T Charger (not an SE) that was beautifully restored, which privately sold in the same ballpark within the past year or so.

P.S. I was told the exact same thing in 1987 when I sold that yellow 71 Hemicuda ragtop for $54K. I had people calling me and telling me how I ripped off Otis Chandler by making him pay that much for a hemi car. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]

Markets go up and markets go down, but quality cars will always be worth what you pay for them, long after you bought them.

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

WOW, what a rude post. At least it brought Steve's killer car to the top.


Jason

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

Come on, I'm from New Jersey. It takes more than that to hurt my feelings. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif[/img]

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

It's obvoiusly worth at least the asking price becuase it was at MCACN.

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

Only the best go to MCACN. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Just wait til November when I bring my original owner Raleigh Chopper. Beware, there will be an obstacle course contest for all those bikers who dare to attend with their rides. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]


P.S. if someone has an interesting partial trade or reasonable offer, I am happy to consider it. (for the Charger that is, not the Chopper - that one goes to my kids)

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

Any thing is worth what someone else will pay for it.

&quot;That is way over market value&quot;

My last realtor told me the same thing when I had him list my house for $20k over market value in 2008 when housing was at it's worst. When he made such a fuss over it I made him agree that if it sold for more he would only take the commission on what he felt was market value. That was on Monday August 11th, 2008. On Wednesday August 13th, the VERY first couple that viewed the house bought it after only inspecting it for only 20 minutes!

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

If you don't have something constructive to say in the classifieds please don't say anything. If you want to argue value with the owner please take it up in private. I want people to be able to advertise their car here and not have to put up with what just happened.

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

All of those photos, docs, and history with a great car = priceless!!!

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

Even without all the paperwork, just the quality of the car puts it in a class by itself. Then add all the paperwork and cool Suburban Dodge stuff I gave you... just sayin'

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

Special cars cannot be replaced for any price and the right collector will love to have that car.

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K code Mustang</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Even without all the paperwork, just the quality of the car puts it in a class by itself. Then add all the paperwork and cool Suburban Dodge stuff I gave you... just sayin' </div></div>

BTW, everybody, &quot;K code Mustang&quot; a.k.a. John, is one of the Charger's Original Fairy GodFathers. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img] He found the original dealer file for the car back in 1990 and sent it to me. His dad is the other Fairy GodFather. He was the mechanic who originally did the work on my Charger at Suburban Dodge in 1970....and 1971....and whenever the Wickbergs broke something new.
[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 87gnsurvivor</div><div class="ubbcode-body">$285 K for this car??
Man that is a lot of money for that car, i would say you are way over the market value for today. </div></div>

Ahhh the myth of polite Canadians, shattered again. 87gn, I notice you are new here. Welcome. If there is a site on the internet where you can learn more about american muscle cars - particularly of the bow-tie variety - than this site, I haven't been there. I thought I knew a lot. Then I came here. Sit back, read, learn, listen. And if you open your maw and get it wrong someone will politely set you straight (there's that word again).

You don't know this Charger, obviously. It's special. Very special. Beyond its rarity, its history is so rich and so reflective of what a &quot;survivor&quot; truly is that it nearly lives and breaths and has a heartbeat. You should dig up some info on it and learn about it. The question you should have asked is &quot;what makes it so special for someone to want 285K?&quot; You would have gotten your answer in an informative, civilized manner. Instead, you were torn a new one. If you enjoy that, go to moparts.com, they do that over there to guys who just say hello. If you want to talk american muscle (particularly Chevrolet dealer Supercars) and learn some cool stuff that will impress your friends, or even share your knowledge, this is the place to be.

So, welcome, relax. Listen first, then talk. And thanks for wanting to bring Steve's car back up to the top. We have that in common, as well as the fact that we are both impolite Canadians.

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

DES (Tracker1) is from Newfoundland as am I. We have had to be extra polite over the years until someone discovered it was cool to be from Newfoundland now we are just polite like 99.99999% of all Canadians.

With Apologies to NJSteve on behalf of 87gn.


Paul

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

Being from the rudeness capital of Planet Earth, we take rudeness to Olympian heights, here in Joysey. Even the New Yorkers are merely considered amateurs at the fine art.

Did you know that in New Jersey you can deduct the cost of post-graduate courses in advanced full-contact rudeness training, off of your tax returns if it is directly related to your employment in this state? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif[/img] It's considered mandatory training for all DMV workers here.

Thanks guys! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

Steve...your Charger flat out rocks.

Now, if Rick can convince his wife to work thousands of hours overtime, Rick can have the car of his dreams!

Good luck with the sale...you've been a great caretaker of the car [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xplantdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Steve...your Charger flat out rocks.

Now, if Rick can convince his wife to work thousands of hours overtime, Rick can have the car of his dreams!

Good luck with the sale...you've been a great caretaker of the car [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] </div></div>

Every day I remind her of the importance of working all of that overtime at Arrowhead Hospital so she can buy this Charger for us. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

I just sold the 72 Trans Am. So now if anyone is interested in the Charger, I am happy to talk about price.

If I sell the Charger then I really can find something interesting as the next project...and send the daughter to college, too. If she REALLY has her heart set on going. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

I took her out of hibernation the other day while out in the garage working on the new Firebird project.

Very scary (as usual). Hadn't been run since the MCACN show last November. I pumped the gas pedal once, turned the key and within 1/2 a revolution she started up and was running. She definitely wants to be out there hunting prey! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

As part of my mid-winter routine I started all the cars today and drove them around a few miles. I got the Charger running. As usual, I just hooked the battery up, let the electric fuel pump fill the bowls, and then turned the key. She started on the first crank.

I topped off the air in the tires- after a year they all lost exactly 9 psi each. Went for a slow drive on the 40 year old tires which felt like I was driving a shopping cart. Boy, I forgot how much nicer these things ride better on radials.

Stills idles and runs very nicely. She is quite &quot;peppy&quot;, a term my Gramma used to say about her 1964, 426-powered Dodge. There's nothing like a hemi with headers. It sounds like a 1970's SuperStocker. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]

https://www.yenko.net/attachments/use...-p1000097a.jpg

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

The Charger is officially consigned to the Mecum Spring Musclecar Auction in Indianapolis in May. The site is officially up today with the feature on the car:

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...=SC0513-154173

If you have an interest in the car and have any questions feel free to PM me or email me. I'm happy to provide any info you need. Thanks, Steve

P.S. Thanks to Nickey Chicago's Stefano Bimbi for guiding me through the process of consigning the car. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

Good luck Steve!

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

Best of luck with the sale, the auction looks to shaping up as a good one...SS old ZL-1 (#23) is consigned as well...

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

Best of luck Steve!

Did you happen to notice Charlie's Old Super Snake is being run through the same auction?

Lot F203 Ellis SuperSnake

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

Good luck with the sale. I also saw that there is a 1970 L89 Nova at the sale. 1 of none. :dunno:
James L89 Nova

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

Quotes from the write up:

The only documented L89 Nova SS known to exist

Documented with the all-important Protect-O-Plate and accompanied by complete owner history

The factory original L89 engine complete with aluminum heads and intake manifold

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

If you would, please keep the discussions of other cars on other threads so no one gets confused about my car.
Thanks!

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

https://www.yenko.net/attachments/use...-p1000097a.jpg

God is that a beautiful thing.

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

Best of luck with this one of a kind hemi car. Hopefully no sellers remorse once the car is sold! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

If anyone wants to see the original dealer file docs and other stuff, the Mecum auction site just added a downloadable PDF of all of the stuff. Here is the site link. Near the top it says &quot;additional information&quot;. Just click on that and you can see it.

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...=SC0513-154173

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

Bad a$$ Mopar. Good luck!

Re: 70 HEMI Charger R/T-SE 4spd, the only red one made
 

Thanks, Stefano

(and thanks for your assistance in getting it consigned). [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]