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kwhizz 11-03-2010 01:22 PM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
If you have room on the inside of the exhaust manifold and the engine......We can angle mill the exhaust manifold to sweep it in towards the engine to give the 02 sensor room......let me know......

Ken

napa68 11-03-2010 02:01 PM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
It is pretty tight in there as well. I am going to look at some block hugger headers as well. That flange is HUGE [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img]

Verne_Frantz 11-03-2010 03:46 PM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
I would suggest you buy the repro 3/8th fuel line kit. It will run under the A-arm and get it away from the manifold. It also runs through the driveshaft tunnel rather than alongsifdde the frame (next to the RH exhaust). Otherwies you can expect vapor lock problems.

Verne [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

x Baldwin Motion 11-04-2010 03:20 AM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
Verne, great to see you back pal !! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

Xplantdad 11-04-2010 04:21 AM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: x Baldwin Motion</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Verne, great to see you back pal !! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] </div></div>


X two!

napa68 11-07-2010 09:53 PM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
This weekend, I got busy doing some of the things that will not meet the eye. Thus, not much for pictures. I removed the fuel tank and line. Straightened out some issues with the motor / transmission mounts, and took care of some little things. One of the items I did fool around with was cleaning the underbody. Man, I wish I could find a Corvette with this kind of originality. While my cleaning is far from complete, check out what I found!
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1788.jpg
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1787.jpg
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1786.jpg
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1783.jpg
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1782.jpg
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1781.jpg
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1780.jpg
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1779.jpg
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1778.jpg
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1777.jpg

napa68 11-07-2010 09:56 PM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
A few more
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1776.jpg
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1775.jpg
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1789.jpg

kwhizz 11-07-2010 11:01 PM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
Nice &quot;Beater&quot;..........But.........It would be better if you took that Lawnmower LS engine out and plugged in a &quot;Real&quot; engine (LS 9)..............

Ken

napa68 11-07-2010 11:26 PM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kwhizz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Nice &quot;Beater&quot;..........But.........It would be better if you took that Lawnmower LS engine out and plugged in a &quot;Real&quot; engine (LS 9)..............

Ken </div></div>
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. You may be right. While an LS9 is not in the cards right now. There could be a &quot;phase II&quot; winter build next winter!

This car here us just killin me!
http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/show...93&amp;page=25

resto4u 11-07-2010 11:34 PM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
That is a very clean car, i look for cars like that. Very few cars ever this clean and original. I would wipe down with boeshield to preserve the patina. Roger

kwhizz 11-08-2010 01:54 AM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: napa68</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kwhizz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Nice &quot;Beater&quot;..........But.........It would be better if you took that Lawnmower LS engine out and plugged in a &quot;Real&quot; engine (LS 9)..............

Ken </div></div>
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. You may be right. While an LS9 is not in the cards right now. There could be a &quot;phase II&quot; winter build next winter!

This car here us just killin me!
http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/show...93&amp;page=25 </div></div>


Put some loud mufflers on her so you can hear the engine and go on the Power Tour with us next year....There will be two LS9 powered cars (since you like 69 Camaros.....LOL)
Then you can be tortured correctly.....

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...0/DSC05450.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...0/DSC05460.jpg

Ken

kwhizz 11-08-2010 02:00 AM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: resto4u</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That is a very clean car, i look for cars like that. Very few cars ever this clean and original. I would wipe down with boeshield to preserve the patina. Roger </div></div>


I agree with Roger......Just Boeshield that puppy.....

Ken

napa68 11-14-2010 11:54 PM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
I was able to get in the shop yesterday for most of the day. Ordered a bunch of parts.....

Brake booster and master cylinder, tilt column, power steering box, radiator and fan assy., etc.

Measured up to shorten the driveshaft. O.E. this puppy is in excess of 63&quot;
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1792.jpg
Getting the rear wheels out is no small undertaking. 285/35R-22. 30 inches tall and rather heavy!
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1797.jpg
Did my initial install on the sway bars. I do not know if I would recommend these to anyone.
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1801.jpg
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1799.jpg
WTF?
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1800.jpg
Wrong bushings for the front. I should have the right ones this week.
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1798.jpg
I am installing C5 Corvette brakes which I should have this week. I have determined I should use a 4.11 ratio gear set. If my math is correct, I will have a 65mph cruise RPM of just under 2100.
As the parts come in and progress continues, I'll keep ya posted. I'll be at MCAN Saturday and Saturday night. Hope to see some of you!

Xplantdad 11-15-2010 02:39 AM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
Cool! Hope to see you at the MCACN show!

napa68 11-20-2010 03:47 AM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
Brown dropped off more goodies yesterday and today! My front brakes arrived (rears next week), steering column, ECM bracket, and radiator. Plus, I fooled around with the Boshield I ordered. WOW! I can see why you guys are so revved up on Boshield. Thanks for the heads up Ken!
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1806.jpg
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1805.jpg
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1807.jpg
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1808.jpg
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1810.jpg
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1811.jpg
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1813.jpg
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1814.jpg
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1815.jpg
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1817.jpg

napa68 11-20-2010 03:51 AM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
A couple of more......
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1818.jpg
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1819.jpg

After the Boshield, I am definitely leaning to the patina rather than blow it apart and paint the engine compartment!


See ya in Chicago!

kwhizz 11-20-2010 04:46 AM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
Looks like theres a new &quot;Spoiled Brat&quot; in town..........LOL

napa68 12-12-2010 03:23 AM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
I finally had a chance to get back on to the 59 this weekend. The front brakes and upper control arms are installed, as is the new P.S. box. I also was able to mock up the brake booster / master cylinder to see how that all fits. I scored a 3.70 posi diff center section from a good friend for a song. Cleaned it up and installed it along with the shortened drive shaft I got back this week. Still waiting for the rear brakes [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif[/img]. Hopefully that will show this coming week. Polished up the wheels over a few cold ones [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1831.jpg

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1830.jpg

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1838.jpg

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1836.jpg

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1835.jpg

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1823.jpg

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1821.jpg

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1829.jpg

Angle milling the exhaust manifolds got them just where I needed them.

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1828.jpg

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1825.jpg

napa68 12-12-2010 03:29 AM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
I also had a chance to paint the radiator and snapped a pic as to how it sits now.

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1833.jpg

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1839.jpg

I have my tilt column mocked in and recieved all of my Dynamat this week as well. As soon as I get the rear brakes, I can make sure the rotors fit the axles properly. I can get it on the ground after that so I can move on to the wiring harness.

Tim

kwhizz 12-12-2010 06:57 AM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
Power Tour.........Power Tour........


Ken

MrsBillyBobcat 12-12-2010 09:36 PM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
Lookin' good Tim! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Hope you make the &quot;long haul&quot; to Detroit! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif[/img]

RPOLS3 12-13-2010 02:42 AM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
Hard for me to tell from the pics (it looks like it might be) but did you use the billet center driveshaft bearing support assembly?

Dad just went through a standard one in about 1,500 miles over the summer on the 62 409 car and evidenty the solution is the billet one.

Looks great - love to see it in person.

Jake



napa68 12-13-2010 08:27 AM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RPOLS3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hard for me to tell from the pics (it looks like it might be) but did you use the billet center driveshaft bearing support assembly?

Dad just went through a standard one in about 1,500 miles over the summer on the 62 409 car and evidenty the solution is the billet one.

Looks great - love to see it in person.

Jake

</div></div>
No I did not. I had forgot about the billet bearings. The one on it is the garden variety that came from the people who shortened and balanced the driveshaft. I am going to pull everything back apart for right now I just have everything mocked up. Thanks for the reminder!

Tim

Bill Pritchard 12-14-2010 03:11 AM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RPOLS3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">....did you use the billet center driveshaft bearing support assembly?

Dad just went through a standard one in about 1,500 miles over the summer on the 62 409 car ..... </div></div>


Wow, I remember those days...I had a friend who had a 63 Impala SS, 425hp '09 car, and he used to go thru those &quot;center cushions&quot; (as we called them) left and right.

napa68 02-05-2011 05:04 AM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
I've been slackin on the 59 lately. I'll get back on this ASAP.
I was out in the shop last night just to fill up the diff with lube, make a couple of brake lines, and [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

I'll get some pics this weekend!

kwhizz 02-05-2011 01:45 PM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
Bout Time....................

Ken

napa68 03-04-2011 03:12 AM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
Alright now. I'm back on it (kinda)

The brakes are all in. I recieved the fuel tank I had made from Rick's Hot Rod Tanks (nice). Now that the tank is mocked into place, I can start making the fuel lines plus mount the filter / regulator. Here are a few photos.

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1992.jpg

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1991.jpg

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1998.jpg

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1989.jpg

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1996.jpg

Plenty of room for the fuel lines
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1997.jpg

I am sending the original speedometer to Classic Insturments for a conversion to electronic
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1994.jpg

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1993.jpg

I am sending out the original radio for conversion so it looks a little more inconspicuous.
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_1995.jpg

After the fuel system, I need to make some spacers for the motor mounts and then start wiring [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/crazy.gif[/img]

Xplantdad 03-04-2011 05:11 AM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
Very, very cool! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]

Postsedan 03-04-2011 11:16 AM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
I especially like the fact that you own and use a &quot;MR. Coffee&quot; coffee machine, Very Cool!

Dan

kwhizz 03-04-2011 01:24 PM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
Bout' Time............Power tour starts in 12 weeks....

napa68 03-04-2011 02:36 PM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kwhizz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Bout' Time............Power tour starts in 12 weeks.... </div></div>


tick, tick, tick.............. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/eek.gif[/img]

RPOLS3 03-04-2011 02:49 PM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
Looking good. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

RPOLS3 06-06-2011 11:08 PM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
Hey Tim - how's the build coming?

Jake

napa68 06-08-2011 04:44 PM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
It's coming along........just a little slow. Been real busy with work. I'll get some pictures up here over the weekend. i'm in the process of wiring the engine &amp; trans right now. The speedo is sent out for an electronic conversion. I should hve the A/C parts this week and have the front accessory drive finished soon as well.

Thanks,
Tim

napa68 06-12-2011 03:16 AM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
I spent today wiring, installing the accessory drive, and started installing Dynamat in the 59. Here are a few pics I snapped.
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_2051.jpg
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_2052.jpg
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_2053.jpg

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_2066.jpghttp://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/..._2063-Copy.jpg
[img][IMG]http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_2065.jpg[/img]http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_2059.jpg[/IMG]http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/..._2059-Copy.jpg
I blacked out the Dynamat inside the doors so it can not be seen.
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_2065.jpg
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/100_2067.jpg

napa68 08-26-2011 01:12 AM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
With some inspiration from Ken (and custom parts) I took a few days off from work to make some progress on the 59.

Accessory drive installed and started to install the new A/C parts. I am going to run this in conjunction with the original underdash A/C unit.

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/044-Copy.jpg

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/046-Copy.jpg

The speedometer came back from Classic Insturments.

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...-Copy-Copy.jpg

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b437/napa68/047.jpg

New motor mount plates. Solved everything!

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/045-Copy.jpg

When I had the trunk mat out of the car to finish the harness for the fuel pump, I found these. Any on you see these before?

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...8/050-Copy.jpg

Tim

markjohnson 08-26-2011 01:46 AM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
Tim, did you get a chance to drive the car before/after the sway bar installation? I bet it made a huge difference as I've been messin' around with one of these larger X-frame cars myself and they do tend to kinda wallow around a bit. Especially the 6-cylinder cars because they didn't come with a front sway bar like the V8 models.

kwhizz 08-26-2011 03:16 AM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
Power Tour.......Power Tour.........

RPOLS3 08-29-2011 03:45 PM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
Thanks for the update!

Jake

napa68 10-29-2011 11:30 PM

Re: 1959 Bel Air Winter Project
 
It runs! Simple problems screw with simple minds!


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