Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

Wait, what did the other M-22s go in? It seems like if someone was going to step up for the HD 4 speed they would have already checked L72.


Jason

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

The 6-10 figure has been out there for 20 or more years, so take it with a grain of salt. Although I think it refers to Biscaynes only, which might be close. 77 installs divided between Biscayne, Bel Air, and Impala.

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Estimated number of L72/M22 Biscaynes based on the total of 77.

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And that estimation was arrived at how?

Sorry, but I believe it's more BS numbers being perpetrated over the years. It's one step removed from the "1 of 1" crap.

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

Was the 77 estimate perhaps derived from the 'Engine production by Suffix' listings Fran Preve had?.
From what I remember of conversations I had w/ Fran his listings showed Tonawanda engine production by Suffix and he used to consider about 95% of the total were put into assembly line cars and the remaining 5% kept for service/warranty etc..
So if Engine production by Suffix was 81, assembly line production at 95% would be about 77 units?.

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~ Pete

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

Pete, that line of thinking has occurred to me too, although with other brands. I really don't know - all I know is the number is published in the "Chevrolet SS Muscle Car Red Book," and I used my criticism of the M22 Biscayne number based on my understanding of how numbers work in Chevyland.

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

Slightly on/off topic:

Does anyone know what headliner was originally in the '69 Bel Air or Biscaynes? Was it the Bedford or Basketweave?

No one seems to be able to answer this for me.

Thanks.

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

I can answer that when I get home, unless someone else beats me to it!

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

Thanks! I think the Basketweave was used on the Bel Air and Biscayne, and the Bedford was used in Impalas & Caprices, but just wanted to make sure.

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

Around 80-82 I lived in Topeka KS in the seabrook area there was a very clean blue 67 427 I had to of knocked on the door and asked if they would sell it a hundread times or so. I was in my early teens looking for my first ride, ended up with a 71 R/T Challenger alot of real cool cars in that area then... as posted earlier I believe it had a Van-T on it also.

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Slightly on/off topic:

Does anyone know what headliner was originally in the '69 Bel Air or Biscaynes? Was it the Bedford or Basketweave?

No one seems to be able to answer this for me.

Thanks.

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-Basketweave https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smirk.gif

Barry

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

Thanks Barry!

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

Any truth to the Biscayne using a rubber mat?..BKH

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

Brian,
Does Joe still have one of the L72/M22 Biscaynes that he is restoring?
Marc

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

Yes..BKH

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Any truth to the Biscayne using a rubber mat?..BKH

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None in my car- Marc do you know if the carpet is original?

Barry

( By the way, what's the story on the Biscayne Joe is restoring?)

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

Barry, the carpet is original.

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

My Biscayne has carpet. I think I remember sales brochure saying all big cars had carpet in '69. I've never seen a '69 with a rubber mat.

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

I never have either, But I was told that that may be the case. I think Ford did away with the rubber mats in the full size cars in '65. Every single '69 Biscayne I have ever looked at had carpet. Urban legend I guess..BKH

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

GM specifications lists carpet for all big cars in '69. My original window sticker has typed in on the bottom, "this car includes all these features astro ventilation, hide-a-way wipers, lighter, carpeting, front seat latches, front shoulder belts, head restraints". I thought there might be something special for taxi's and cop cars but couldn't find anything.

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

Howard's newly painted Frost Green Biscayne...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU0vAMxb7WI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2QSk...eature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6I8y...eature=related

Sounds goooood....

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

Tell Howard, I love it...... Now get that car out of the SNOW!

Dan.

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

Wow, thats cool..BKH https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

Damn that's awesome. Who's car is that Tom? Do you know what the exhaust is on it? Thanks for sharing the links.
Steve

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

Very cool.... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

I'd like to know about the exhaust, also. Pretty neat car.

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

You know, I've asked him about the exhaust within an e-mail but he didn't reply to it. I'll have to press him a bit about it as I'm going to be in the market for one for my Bel Air.

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

Tom... Sorry , I guess I did not reply to your email on the exhaust I put on my Biscayne.It was a couple of years ago when I got it installed. It is a 2 1/2 stainless custom job done at a local shop . I wanted it to have the right bends as original. This cars resto has taken a few years with numerous set backs . Had issues with the block , and the engine has been out 3 times.

Picking up the freshly painted 15x6 steelies today,and will have the tires mounted today as well. Have two sets of rims. Have the steels with poverty caps, and will also use ralley's with police caps. Both sets of rims are done in Frost Lime.

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

Sweet car, loved watching the video https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif Yuckie snow https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

Actually , that's not much snow. Very little this year,but cold. Those pic's on youtube were when the car just was introduced to -20 degrees last week. It was waiting for the trailer and to get transported back to my place.

Won't be on the road till May . (Still needs the interior).

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

Whttps://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gifW...Lhttps://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/drool.gifVE IT!!!

Isn't minus 20 is warm for you guys Howard?.
What happened to Portage and Main 50 below?!

Which 455 are you running in the '60 truck...B-O-P?.

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~ Pete

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

Can't wait to see this thing finished! Where did you find the 15X6 steelies? Do disk calipers fit under them? Also, what type of mufflers are you using? Are you going to with a wide oval tire? Sorry for all the questions, I want my 68 L72 to sound just like that!
Steve

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

The Biscayne looks great Howard. You should have stopped by my place with the Biscayne since I'm 10 minutes away from there and you already had it in the snow anyway. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/shocked.gif

Andrew.

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

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Tom... Sorry , I guess I did not reply to your email on the exhaust I put on my Biscayne.It was a couple of years ago when I got it installed. It is a 2 1/2 stainless custom job done at a local shop . I wanted it to have the right bends as original. This cars resto has taken a few years with numerous set backs . Had issues with the block , and the engine has been out 3 times.

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No worries, Howard. I just thought I'd give you a hard time. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

As you went for the original bends, I'm guessing your system is fairly close to the one Waldon's Antique Exhaust sells, aside from maybe your mufflers as I don't know what you put on there.

Here's the Waldron's link for those interested:
http://waldronexhaust.com/shop/produ...oducts_id=3938

Looking foward to seeing it completed. I just hope SMS doesn't take a year on the door panels.

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

Here's a few pictures of my dads 69 L72 TH400 Bel Air. We dragged it back from Wyoming about seven years ago. Wish it were a 4 speed! It looks like the same color as Howards! If only I was a 69 guy.. lol
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/IMGP1435.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/IMGP1434.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/IMGP1431.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/IMGP1513.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/IMGP1515.jpg

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

Wow, I'm starting to like the big 68-69 cars.

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

Wow - that's an original L72 '69 Belair?

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Can't wait to see this thing finished! Where did you find the 15X6 steelies? Do disk calipers fit under them? Also, what type of mufflers are you using? Are you going to with a wide oval tire? Sorry for all the questions, I want my 68 L72 to sound just like that!
Steve

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Steve , the steelies are the original YZ 15" for Disc brakes. Just picked up the freshly painted rims today with fresh BF Goodrich 225/70/15's. I might run a wider tire on the rally's with Police cap later on. Not sure which will look better.
As far as the muffler's make, it's been so long since they were installed ,I can't remember.

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

Thanks for the info, Howard. I guess I need to find some YZ wheels for my 68 so I can run disks but retain the small hubcaps. I think your car will look great with either rim.
I just went through my database and found we have recorded 14 real 69 L72 cars in the last 10 years. Only five sedans!
Steve

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

Just bringing this thread to the top - here is a rare YZ 15x6 wheel dated August 1968. Thought someone may need it for their big-car resto. When I owned my L72 Biscayne I looked endlessly for a fifth YZ wheel, so I hope this helps someone.

http://ebay.to/2c7Rzjm

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/1eYAAO...Yr/s-l1600.jpg

Re: 1969 L72 Biscayne
 

Tony -- what kind/brand of paint did you use to refinish the wheel? Thanks ... TAZ