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ALLZS 12-03-2009 11:34 PM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
THE ONLY GOOD DEALS ARE SLAPPED TOGETHER JUNK *YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR !!!

MultiMopars 12-04-2009 12:02 AM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
Rather than responding seperately in two posts I have combined these:

"The only Super-Chevy car show I've been to was the Pomona 1998. I'm guessing 1000 cars in attendance,and not one original paint survivor. I'm guessing there's even fewer 11 yrs later.
Cars like this are the ones to own,and unfair to price it as a normal everyday car."



I agree. However the "survivor" paint has to be nice enough to be "respectable" at the Saturday night parking lot show. Otherwise the owner soon tires of hearing "why don't you paint it." No point in paying "extra" for a survivor that you will end up painting soon after you buy it.



"I have to chuckle here for a second. All the cars that I have been interested in buying sure haven't come down in price! I asked about this a few months back. Just where are all of these so called deals at? Any car that has been for sale on this site hasn't been a "steal", has it?"



Right on.

So many people get the idea that because of the low bid prices of unsold/reserve not met cars on the highly viseable Ebay, that these car are only worth the high bid. Many people simply use Ebay as a marketing tool and don't really expect that it will sell there. You can't blame potential buyers for trying to steal something in a down turn market. OTOH, unless you HAVE to sell there are no deal to be had. Most people that have rare desirable cars will hold them unless they get what they want for them. It still all boils down to supply and demand. If you WANT a certain car you either pay the price or see if you can build a clone to satisfy your need. Most are finding that in todays market they are better off buying a REAL car. The clone is only worth at best the sum total of its parts and in this market could not sell the done clone car for what they have in it, sometimes 1/2 of that.

iluv69s 12-04-2009 01:14 AM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
[ QUOTE ]
I have to chuckle here for a second. All the cars that I have been interested in buying sure haven't come down in price! I asked about this a few months back. Just where are all of these so called deals at? Any car that has been for sale on this site hasn't been a "steal", has it?

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Didn't you buy the Harrell 70 Camaro??? I spoke to the owner a few months before that car was sold, and I thought the price was a steal. I imagine the car was sold for even less than I could have bought it. That car dropped considerably in price from when the seller was first offering the car for sale. If my finances were a little better at the time, that car would be in my garage.

awesome car...the pinnacle of 70 Camaros

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

Astock 12-04-2009 01:54 AM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
For me and maybe others,the automatic is a killer. Still a fantastic one of a kind car.
For those of you that have or know of a nice survivor,solid lifter car with low miles for 30-35k,just send me a pm. I'm not in the market,but for that price, I'll take them all.

iluv69s 12-04-2009 02:47 AM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
[ QUOTE ]
For me and maybe others,the automatic is a killer. Still a fantastic one of a kind car.
For those of you that have or know of a nice survivor,solid lifter car with low miles for 30-35k,just send me a pm. I'm not in the market,but for that price, I'll take them all.

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I hear ya....of the 11 early Camaros that I've owned this year, not one is an automatic...all 4 speeds and all but one solid lifter cars...but I was thinking of making an exception on that car....6k mile survivor....454 solid lifter...Dick Harrell...1 of 1

fbirdguy 12-06-2009 08:12 AM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
The car finally rolled into my shop tonight. Here are some quick pics. This car is clean and original. Interior is excellent original except for the shifter? Cool car. I will get more pics and info soon. For some strange reason the car vin is 335632 and the vin on the block is 335633. Misstamp?

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Charley Lillard 12-06-2009 08:16 AM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
nice car

fbirdguy 12-06-2009 08:50 AM

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nice car

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Thanks Charlie. I need to do a little cleanup and go through the numbers but it sure seems to be an incredibly solid original car.

1967Z28 12-06-2009 09:05 AM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
The radius at the top of those rear stripes does not look right. No black on the rockers either. Repaint?

-Jon

fbirdguy 12-06-2009 09:17 AM

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The radius at the top of those rear stripes does not look right. No black on the rockers either. Repaint?

-Jon

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Could be. I won't know more until it gets cleaned up. It is definitely old lacquer and I see no tape lines though.

iluv69s 12-06-2009 11:17 AM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
as I stated earlier...it seems as though the stripe ends are taped and there is not the typical overspray on the stripes in the cowl area..and now with these photos, it seems the same in the trunk area..
does not seem original paint i.m.o.

njsteve 12-06-2009 03:29 PM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
I love the shot of the original POP and the fingerprints under the left edges of the tape. Run those prints and maybe you can find the dealership employee that originally sold it. (If he has a criminal record, of course). https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

Cool car! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

juliosz 12-06-2009 06:55 PM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
If you have the time, you may want to lift the driver and passenger side carpet to see if the body broadcast copy is under there. The original owner of my 68 told me he found his when he lifted the carpet to install the drive shaft loop. Mine was a Norwood car however. Great car, great find, good luck!

Paul

BillD 12-06-2009 07:39 PM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
Very nice car!! Keep the pictures coming.

firez 12-06-2009 07:55 PM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
Great find twin to my 02E LOS Z28. My serial number is about 4100 ahead of this car. One observation my car was not original paint when I bought it as the California sun beat it up. Was the truck lip painted with the stripe colour when a spoiler was factory installed?

jbsides 12-06-2009 08:04 PM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
Looks like a nice car and a great score to be sure. The painted trunk lip was the first thing I noticed on this set of pics. Of the factory spoiler cars I have seen over the years, I cannot recall any with a painted lip like that. Added at the dealer before initial delivery, yes, but factory, none that I have seen.

JB

firez 12-06-2009 08:07 PM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
Forgot to say also my 02E Z has a engine build date of VO205MO . This seems to be about the same time duration as this car relative to the vehicles build date. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

69 Post Sedan 12-06-2009 08:14 PM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
One word....Jealous! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/drool.gif

fbirdguy 12-06-2009 08:44 PM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
Here are a few more pics from last night. I will probably not be able to do anything more with the car until tomorrow. We are going to get the car on the rack and drop the gas tank and get it drained and cleaned out along with the other fluids to start getting the car ready to run. We decided to get the car running because the way it sits now it would have to be sold as a project car and that would have a negative impact on the value as opposed to a running and driving car. Getting it running will be easy and cost very little. If you followed the thread on my 69 T/A you will see this car is going to be a piece of cake comparatively. I will go through the car and photograph and document all numbers to get it ready for sale. I will post more pics as I take them.

Thanks for following along.
Richie


Here is a tag I found under the passenger seat.

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jannes_z-28 12-07-2009 10:19 AM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
BT Rearend is special, 3.55 gears instead of the standard 3.73.

Engine VIN might be misstamp or mixing the engines between the next car on the line, probably misstamp.

Jan

GreenLS6 12-07-2009 03:42 PM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
Don't care wether a repaint or not- SOLID -ORIGINAL- ALL PAPERWORK-unmolested -GARAGE FIND !!!! 30-35 your nuts!
Guarantee no one on this board would list it for sale on this board for that! There's guys askin 30 for original 307 cars

VERY Nice car, congrats ! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

brent396 12-07-2009 04:12 PM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
Very nice car.Is this car consider a born with motor car ?

1969z280 12-07-2009 07:41 PM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
I would have thought that if the engine was mis-stamped, that the POP would have shown the incorrect mis-stamp not what should have been correctly stamped on the engine? They pulled the actual numbers off of the car for the POP, didn't they? Ed

Kurt S 12-07-2009 07:44 PM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
I think that's the original motor.
But I don't think that seat tag goes with this car. This car has standard belts from what I see. ZK3 is deluxe belts.

fbirdguy 12-07-2009 08:48 PM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
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I think that's the original motor.
But I don't think that seat tag goes with this car. This car has standard belts from what I see. ZK3 is deluxe belts.

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Thanks Kurt. I am sure it is the original motor. I seem to attract odd block stampings. Who else could come up with a 1 owner unmolested 69 T/A with a Camaro vin on the block. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/laugh.gif

BTW I grew up in Ypsilanti and still have family and friends all over there.

Kurt S 12-08-2009 12:48 AM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
Yup, lived in Ypsi for 15 years. Always heard the planes coming into Willow Run. Not much farther away now, but we must be out of the flight path...

fbirdguy 12-08-2009 07:57 AM

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Yup, lived in Ypsi for 15 years. Always heard the planes coming into Willow Run. Not much farther away now, but we must be out of the flight path...

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I lived more in the country. I graduated from Lincoln High School in 1986.

fbirdguy 12-08-2009 08:05 AM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
We cleaned up the car some today and it does appear to be a repaint. Looks like old lacquer with some shrinkage but I still can't find tape lines. Still very solid and straight. A few bubbles around the rear window. We are going to start getting it ready to run tomorrow. I will get undercarriage photos then. Sharp car regardless.

http://www.carbuffs.com/camaroz32.jpg

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m22mike 12-08-2009 03:57 PM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
You did good.. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

mockingbird812 12-08-2009 05:45 PM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
Sharp! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif Congrats! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

70 Forest Green Zee 12-09-2009 01:09 AM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
Very cool car!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...-I-Have-It.gif

69bronzeT5 12-09-2009 03:04 AM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
Wow great find! I'm more of a '69 guy myself but I appreciate a good garage or barn find!

GreenLS6 12-09-2009 04:45 AM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
very nice car - very nice https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

markinnaples 12-09-2009 05:51 AM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
Beautiful....I wanna drive it!

musclecarmatt 12-09-2009 09:30 AM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
man...wish i could get that lucky!...very nice car!....would like to the see the orignal shifter in though...

fbirdguy 12-11-2009 09:52 AM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
Finally had a chance to work on the car today. Oil was changed and engine was primed and turns over fine. Carb will be getting new gaskets tomorrow. The carburetor appears to be a 1974 service replacement.

The undercarriage is typical California rust free.

The transmission has the same misstamp as the block.

The rearend has a BT stamp.

The spare has the correct DF stamp but the other wheels have an FW stamp and appear to be 15x7. I guess someone wanted a little wider tread.


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MosportGreen66 12-11-2009 05:47 PM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
What a cool find! Congrats!

SUSQ 12-11-2009 05:53 PM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
Congrats! Man, I gotta start looking in more garages. Have fun with your great find!

fbirdguy 12-13-2009 09:07 PM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
My friend Rick got the engine prepped to run yesterday. It fired right up and runs great. We may have it on the road tomorrow, I will post some pics.

mssl72 12-14-2009 05:17 AM

Re: 1968 Z/28 garage find
 
Funny how the VIN misstamp of "33" matches the license plates. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif


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