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Hey Bruce - way I see it, I'm doing pretty good - most times I just talk to myself (actually get along ok) https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif





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Cool old pics !!!

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The car is completely stripped down and will go on the rotissory on Friday. All original (tinted) glass came out without a scratch. Floors look good, trunk needs work, quarters wheel arch and lower patch, doors will clean up, fenders both need small patch - overall a lot better then I thought. Even around the trunk seal and at the base of the rear window - very solid, only surface rust. See pics. If anyone wants to see anything else before rotissery - let me know.

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Just surface rust

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Upper corner of trunk lip. Have you seen this stamp marking before? Obviously the hole isn't factory!

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Hey Bruce...check your emails...

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Haven't received any emails - maybe the victim of the spam filter! I don't see them in the spam though. Call me please.

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Hmmm...it's from my home email (Xplantdad) and it was in respose to your email a few days ago. I will resend when I get home https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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This is a long shot, but anyone seen this car (other then 35 years ago)? It may have a part that I want on it!

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Is this the old New York street racer car in your picture? Was this an original Harrell car? Paint scheme looks familar. Where is Kim Howie when you need him? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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Thanks for all of your leads on the race car in the picture. That is actually the car that the original owner put the engine and rear in that came out of my BB car. He raced it (the race car) against Sox & Martin at Indy in 1970. The race car was sold to a guy in Pittsburg and I found this rear there. Looks right to me (a little rough though). Now I have what I believe to be the rear and trans. The motor was bored way over and may be trashed, but I do have one active lead in W VA. Please PM any leads any of you might have.

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Nice find; you are inspiring the rest of us to search out previous owners! BTW that rear should smooth out nicely after spraying it with Z-Chrome and blocking it down a couple of times.

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sheet metal plant and week codes... check the CRG site for the reports.

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You were able to track down the buyer of the trans? Or did the seller still have it?

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Nice Find, can you post more pictures of the restoration?

Mike

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I will post mere pics as things progress. The body is on a rotissery right now.

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You were able to track down the buyer of the trans? Or did the seller still have it?

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any update?

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That's a long story! When the whole world knows that you are restoring a valuable car - "original" parts seem to come out of the woodwork! Several people have contacted me about the original trans. I got what I believe to be the original from the same guy that had the rear. I don't believe that it's a restamp. Also,The 660 case die cast date code is perfect for my car. I've attached a photo for all of the gurus.

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Looks like the real deal.

Interesting. The trans that was on ebay had your VIN, but a different date code. I never saw a pic of it, but it was 2 years before your car hit the radar....
Weird. Wonder if it was misread of the # or a misstamp.

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Yeah - Steve (the guy who sold me the car) gave me the email address of the guy who said that he had that transmission, but when I emailed him - he wouldn't send me photos of the stamping! I know (now) that at least a few people have known about the car for a long time. It was in storage and the owner wouldn't sell. Steve's a great guy and was a good friend of the owner. He was familiar with the car for about 20 years. He attested to the car having the sportscar package and also said that it had a factory am/fm. The original owner remembers just an am radio (with rear speaker) - so I'm not sure which radio to put in it during resto? Anyway - the poor long time owner is now in a nursing home and his family sold the car to Steve.

Thanks for your input Kurt.

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This car's VIN is 691 behind mine, and the BE 0519 stamp is identical to mine. Is this an 05D build? It could have been made the same day as mine. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif

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Mine is an 05E build Andy. They were probably made fairly close together. Check your build sequence number - mine is 302060. Yours probably has an earlier build sequence then mine. My understanding is that build sequence numbers were assigned sequentially at the start of the process. The cars did not necessarily get finished sequentially though - some cars would be pulled off of the line if there was a problem or if options weren't available for build completion. I remember working at the St Louis assembly plant and eating lunch every day for two weeks in an L88 Corvette that we built for the export in 1968 - it got pulled off line and just sat waiting for parts. Norwood was probably the same. What is your trans build date (if 4 speed)?

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Bruce,

I have compaired this to hundreds that I have in my photo data base. You should call me when you have a minute. I do not like the space in between the 2 and the 5. The B is larger than the other characters and there are issues with the vin stamp. Just giving my best professional advise.

Jerry

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Thanks for your input Jerry. You're a pro at this stuff and you know that I respect your expertise. I'll give you a call. If you actually put a vernier down into the charactors - the letters are all the same. Some are worn and some aren't, some are crooked and some aren't, but the crest of the indentations are nearly identical. I'm sure that the guys who actually made these parts would laugh at the way that we study their products. You know that I worked as a senior engineer and later as a superintendent of production for Chevrolet back in the late 60's and through the 70's. The only requirement for part numbers, vins, and dates was that they would be "permanently" marked. I remember having employees hand stamp parts with any 'ol stamp that was available. Al Grening has some classic examples in his archives. If a charactor fell off of a pattern or out of a gang, we'd just grab a hand stamp out of the inspection office and start whacking parts!

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Mine is an 05E build Andy. They were probably made fairly close together. Check your build sequence number - mine is 302060. Yours probably has an earlier build sequence then mine. My understanding is that build sequence numbers were assigned sequentially at the start of the process. The cars did not necessarily get finished sequentially though - some cars would be pulled off of the line if there was a problem or if options weren't available for build completion. I remember working at the St Louis assembly plant and eating lunch every day for two weeks in an L88 Corvette that we built for the export in 1968 - it got pulled off line and just sat waiting for parts. Norwood was probably the same. What is your trans build date (if 4 speed)?

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Best guess from looking at the old calender is that my car was built on Friday, the 23rd, and yours was built on the following Monday.
http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/...&country=1
May was a 5 week month in '69, but 05E was only 4 days, with Friday off for the Memorial Day weekend.
BTW, my car has the M40. (Look under the Berger logo). https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

Here is the stamp on my rear end:

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Thanks Andy - Brent, quit yelling!

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Sorry i didnt know i was yelling apoligize bergy https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/crazy.gif

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I am envious as hell on this one... it is going to be AWESOME

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Thanks James - we'll try to do her justice! Bruce

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I like it with the Ansens or whatever those Roundspokes are with Wide Ovals... Day II... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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After media blasting the body, we decided to go with full GM quarters. Piecing in partials was just not going to do the car justice. Attached are pics of the progress.

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pics

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more pics

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more, more pics

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We took a bunch of photos of the body stamps (before and after clean up).

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Looking good bergy. Keep 'em coming! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif