Re: Joe Oldham's '69 SS-427 Camaro
 

They did this all the time. Oldham's Camaro was used in several articles not always about his specific car. Cars Magazine used 1968 photos of Joel Rosen's '68 SS 427 Camaro in articles as late as 1982 when they published a "garage find" story about a different '68 SS 427 Camaro in a special edition magazine. In the '82 article they even implied that the photos were of the "garage find" car, when in fact they clearly were original '68 photos.

What kills me is that Oldham kept his '69 in a frickin' open car port at his apartment building! It got stolen? Well NO SH*T!!! I think Oldham even admits that by parking it in the car port it was only a matter of time until it got stolen. Someone who was there (maybe Oldham in one of his stories) said that B-M cars were practicaly number one on the stolen muscle car list in those days. They'd get stolen and parted-out. No wonder real B-M cars are so rare today.

Re: Joe Oldham's '69 SS-427 Camaro
 

[b]Thanks to Marty Schorr for the straight scoop on Oldham's Camaro:


"Oldham's Camaro was not a ZL-1, it was a Phase III (steel) 427 auto trans SS427 Camaro and it was stolen shortly after it was built for him. It was the car I used for the WANTED poster advt. It was triple-black and ran like a rocket! "
Many thanks,
Marty

Re: Joe Oldham's '69 SS-427 Camaro
 

[b] For anyone unfamiliar, this is the WANTED poster advertisement Marty was referring to - Notice the car has stripes in this photo


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Re: Joe Oldham's '69 SS-427 Camaro
 

...I have wondered if that was really Joe's car...the car in the "WANTED" ad has different rims (which could easily be changed) and a white hockey stripe...all the other pics of Joe's car did not have that side stripe.

Re: Joe Oldham's '69 SS-427 Camaro
 

Oldham's book explains the wheel swap.

Re: Joe Oldham's '69 SS-427 Camaro
 

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Oldham's book explains the wheel swap.

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Great book by the way. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Re: Joe Oldham's '69 SS-427 Camaro
 

There are pictures of J O’s black Motion Camaro with 3 different sets of wheels on it. At first, I thought there may have been another black 69 Motion Camaro that may have had ZL1 power but would think that it would have been covered in Cars mag or another mag of the day.

Another interesting bit on this car.
In J O’s book, he states that he asked for the orange Ram Air Firebird after his Motion Camaro was stolen but on page 67 you can see what looks like a black Motion Camaro in the stage lane behind the orange Firebird.

Again indicating a possible second black 69 Motion Camaro.
They may all be the same car and the articles could be incorrect.
A minor error but makes it difficult to track and document the cars.

Not saying anything negative about J O as I think he is a great writer and have enjoyed his articles and books.

Re: Joe Oldham's '69 SS-427 Camaro
 

whats the name of the book https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

Re: Joe Oldham's '69 SS-427 Camaro
 

I just looked at that picture and re-read the chapter.. Your right Joe, interesting observation. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

Re: Joe Oldham's '69 SS-427 Camaro
 

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They did this all the time. Oldham's Camaro was used in several articles not always about his specific car. Cars Magazine used 1968 photos of Joel Rosen's '68 SS 427 Camaro in articles as late as 1982 when they published a "garage find" story about a different '68 SS 427 Camaro in a special edition magazine. In the '82 article they even implied that the photos were of the "garage find" car, when in fact they clearly were original '68 photos.

What kills me is that Oldham kept his '69 in a frickin' open car port at his apartment building! It got stolen? Well NO SH*T!!! I think Oldham even admits that by parking it in the car port it was only a matter of time until it got stolen. Someone who was there (maybe Oldham in one of his stories) said that B-M cars were practicaly number one on the stolen muscle car list in those days. They'd get stolen and parted-out. No wonder real B-M cars are so rare today.

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I need to clarify my post.

"They did this all the time" means that magazines often used file photos (photos in their files from past features) for more than one article and sometimes years later, as in the case of the Rosen '68 Camaro photos, taken in 1968 and used again in the 1982 special edition article. Same photos but two different cars being talked about. It also means that cars were often re-wheeled, re-engined, re-whatevered for subsequrnt articles. See: Carroll Shelby's first Cobra (1962), quickly repainted several times for use in various magazine road tests to imply that there were many Cobras when in fact there was just the one. Joe Oldham's car seems to have been through similar treatment.

My "fricken' open carport" and "Well NO SH*T" comment was not to imply that Mr. Oldham was stupid but to convey my frustration that such an incredible car was stolen and undoubtedly broken up into parts by car thieves, never to be seen again. I have been informed that the car was not in an open carport but in a locked garage that was broken into. I thought I had read years ago that it was in an open carport but it was, in fact, in a locked garage when stolen.

Hope this clarifies what I was trying to get across!