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ORIGLS6 11-12-2007 07:17 PM

Re: Holley question
 
I had heard the Q-jets were difficult to work with/rebuild, so I tried the Holley spread bore. Bad decision. Afterward, I rebuilt the QJ and reinstalled it on my Corvette. I've told many people since then that I'm evidently too stupid to know that I can't do something because it turned out fine. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif I've rebuilt a number of them over the years and always (knock wood) had success.

Smaller primaries for economy; HUGE secondaries for performance. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif
Limited tuning capabilities https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif

But overall, I'll take a QJ over a Holley spread bore 10:1.

Salvatore 11-12-2007 08:21 PM

Re: Holley question
 
"Limited tuning capabilities https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif" Not so Dennis. They have a lot of potential for performance. But the original style Holley is the easiest and most quickly rewarding for the street scene and any bracket classes you would run on the strip. A lot of class racing requires a Q-jet. That is when it gets a little tricky. Just call Eric! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

ORIGLS6 11-12-2007 08:32 PM

Re: Holley question
 
OK, I'll give you that. Maybe I should have said "more difficult to tune when compared to the 4160 series Holleys",............... at least for me. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/crazy.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smirk.gif

See you Friday? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

VintageMusclecar 11-12-2007 09:00 PM

Re: Holley question
 
Dennis;

The QJet actually has a bigger window of tuning potential (for part throttle/street style use) than a Holley. Where people get into trouble with a QJet is when they take the same approach to installing/tuning one as they would a Holley, i.e. the "well, all Qjets are the same, so it should run fine" mindset. Problem is, neither the QJet nor Holleys are all created equal, and if the wrong carb is plopped down on the wrong engine...you know what happens next.

The fact that most Holley tuning is accomplished via jets, power valve, and squirter selection whereas the QJet has a much more sophisticated range of adjustments in as far as jets, metering rods, power piston springs, secondary air door tension spring, secondary air door vacuum break, etc. is where people start to get confused. It's actually very easy to get in over one's head when trying to tune and modify a QJet, which I am quite sure is the reason the QJet has earned such colorful euphamisms as nicknames over the years, such as "Quadrajunk", "Quadrabog", and a few others I can't repeat on a family-oriented forum. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/blush.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smirk.gif

If you're building a non-stock hotrod and want to use a QJet, starting with a compatible core will get you 90% of the way there more often than not. It's when you try to put on a QJet designed for a `67 California smog 327 on a hot 454 that you run into problems. (I actually encountered that exact scenario recently!) Had you started with a QJet off of...say...a early `70's 454 passenger car, or even a late `70's to mid-`80's 454 truck, you would've been much better off.

OK, I'm done blathering about carbs for now. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

Eric

427TJ 11-12-2007 09:02 PM

Re: Holley question
 
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OK, I'm done blathering about carbs for now. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

Eric

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I find it fascinating. Beats the heck outta' the morning paper!

Salvatore 11-12-2007 09:13 PM

Re: Holley question
 
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OK, I'll give you that. Maybe I should have said "more difficult to tune when compared to the 4160 series Holleys",............... at least for me. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/crazy.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smirk.gif

See you Friday? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

[/ QUOTE ] Friday it is! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ouguysrock.gif

ORIGLS6 11-12-2007 10:03 PM

Re: Holley question
 
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the QJet has a much more sophisticated range of adjustments in as far as jets, metering rods, power piston springs, secondary air door tension spring, secondary air door vacuum break, etc. is where people start to get confused. It's actually very easy to get in over one's head when trying to tune and modify a QJet.........

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif Nuff said! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif I'll leave that to you guys. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ouguysrock.gif

Keith Tedford 11-13-2007 12:12 AM

Re: Holley question
 
Keep on blathering. Those of us who play with carbs a little are always interested in learning more. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif


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