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I don't drive a foreign car at this time, but the Acura TL
will most likely be my next car.

Steve

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After wanting one for years I finally bought a 2007 TL March 31. Used ones are so expensive you may as well buy new.

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Any references on that electric car conspiracy? I can't imagine anyone in Detroit or Akron taking that pipe dream seriously.

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Someone should have put that idiots head on a pole for that!

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This is what they did instead:



Article by Joel J. Smith/The Detroit News, May 4, 2007.

Michigan's top-paid corporate executives are raking in nearly double what they made in 2001 at a time when deep economic turmoil has cost tens of thousands of workers their jobs.

The average compensation of the Fortunate 50 -- The Detroit News' ranking of the most highly paid executives at Michigan's publicly traded companies -- was $7.1 million in 2006, up 88 percent over 2001 or more than seven times the rate of inflation.

No. 1 on the list is Alan Mulally, who was hired away from Boeing Co. last fall by Ford Motor Co. as its new president and CEO. His compensation package -- for four months on the job in 2006 -- was worth $28.2 million, according to Ford's proxy statement filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Richard A. Manoogian, chairman and CEO of Taylor-based Masco Corp., placed second with total compensation of $17.3 million.

Corporations are required by law to make public the pay of their most highly rewarded executives via an annual filing with the SEC. Amounts posted include base salary, cash bonuses, stock awards and miscellaneous pay and perks.

The average weekly compensation of a Michigan Fortunate 50 member is 174 times that of what the average Michigan worker collected in 2006, $784.34 a week.

By contrast, Mulally's 2006 package worked out to $541,990 a week over a year, while Manoogian earned $332,560 weekly.

The widening pay divide is a sore spot for many workers in Michigan."I don't know what you tell workers that are laid off about executives at the company that are making millions and millions of dollars," said Pete Lupo, managing director of Pearl, Meyer & Partners, a New York City compensation consulting firm. "If you can go back and demonstrate their pay has a direct correlation to the performance of the company and is within the peer norms, that's the only answer.

"But it's difficult for many people to understand it because they can't relate to people being paid millions of dollars a year."

Executive compensation packages have swelled even as Michigan companies slashed 171,900 jobs from their payrolls over the past five years. Last year, 11 executives from seven Michigan public companies made $10 million or more, according to company filings. In 2001, one executive topped the $10 million mark.

Average 2006 compensation for the 50 people on this year's list was $7.1 million, with the No. 50 executive earning $2.7 million. In 2001, the average was $3.8 million, with the earner on the lowest rung making $1.85 million.

Other findings in 2006:

Base salaries averaged $843,838, 16 percent higher than in 2001.

Bonuses, which include both gifts and performance-based rewards, averaged $1.7 million, up 103 percent since 2001.

The executives reaped about $1.9 million in stock rewards on average as well as $1.9 million in stock options last year.

Executives at 18 Michigan companies made the list.

Fifteen managers on the list worked for companies that lost money in 2006; Ford led the way with $12.7 billion in red ink.

Twenty-one top players worked for companies that lost stock value in 2006.

Nationally known psychologist Robert R. Butterworth said anger is building among the work force over these huge executive compensation packages.

"Workers don't like it when executives are making all this money and they are being asked for wage and benefit cuts or face layoffs," said Butterworth of Los Angeles. "People don't forget these things."

Gary Wolkowicz, a 37-year veteran at Ford's Rouge plant, says top managers are "showing their greed and not being fair."

"It's outrageous that Alan Mulally is making so much money at the same time they keep asking us to accept so many cuts," he said.

Compensation experts, however, say some positive signs are emerging from the pay packages posted this year. More bonuses and stock awards are being tied to performance goals while base salaries have climbed only 16 percent.

While Michigan's economy is suffering, many of the state's larger companies are national or even global corporations. Regardless of the local climate, companies often have to compete to hire and keep top-level executives. That means offering competitive pay and benefits.

In Mulally's case, for example, $18 million of his package was reimbursement for money he left on the table by leaving Boeing.

Andrew Goldstein, central division practice leader for Watson Wyatt Worldwide, a consulting firm with offices in Southfield, said firms in crisis sometimes have to offer huge pay packages to lure new executives.

"Sometimes a distressed company or a company going through a lot of turmoil has to pay more to attract an executive," Goldstein said. "Why would an executive leave a company to take a risky job at a struggling company?

"It's pay, pay and more pay."

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You'd smile like this all the time too if you knew that no matter how poorly you did your job you'd still be given millions.

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........."Sometimes a distressed company or a company going through a lot of turmoil has to pay more to attract an executive," Goldstein said. "Why would an executive leave a company to take a risky job at a struggling company?

"It's pay, pay and more pay."

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You'd smile like this all the time too if you knew that no matter how poorly you did your job you'd still be given millions.

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AND unfortunately, their financial futures aren't tied to
how well the company performs during ( and after ) their
tenure. That's how the Japanese do it. They tie their
executives financial well being into how well the company
does while they are there and after they leave. That gives
them incentive to build ( remember R & D ), and hire top
quality people, instead of the "good old boys club" mentality.

Honestly, what's the incentive to stay & build when you're
making 28-billion dollars for a one-time stint ( repair mode )? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

Steve

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I don't drive a foreign car at this time, but the Acura TL
will most likely be my next car.

Steve

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After wanting one for years I finally bought a 2007 TL March 31. Used ones are so expensive you may as well buy new.

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Hey Bill,

As a fellow engineer, what's your honest opinion of the TL?
Expensive even used - huh? What's that tell you? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

Steve

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Just saw "Transformers" with the wife and kid. It was a 2 hour GM product placement advertisement. It was like I was transported back to the old 1970's days of Quinn-Martin Productions with Cannon or Mannix or Barnaby Jones where every car you saw on screen was a brand new polished example of whatever company was the sponsor at the time. Fun movie, but all the gratuitous GMC logo closeups were bit much after an hour or so.

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Just saw "Transformers" with the wife and kid...... Fun movie, but all the gratuitous GMC logo closeups were bit much after an hour or so.

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Steve, what are you - going FOMOCO on us or something? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

It was great to see all those GM logos https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

BTW, wasn't it cool how the mid-70's yellow Camaro transformed
into the yellow Concept Camaro when the girl called the former a piece
of crap. Autobots ( good guys ) & Decepticons ( bad guys )!
This movie is going to be a winner https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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Here you go guys!

Say hello to BUMBLEBEE ( transformer )....

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/nuch_ss3...-bumblebee.jpg

Steve

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Here's the movie trailer...... Transformers Trailer

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Hello Steve;

The TL is a great car, have 4200 miles on it with 0 problems. There are a couple of things to know up front. They require premium fuel [22-24 mpg] and need tires every 25,000 miles or so. Because of the tire pressure monitoring system Acura strongly recommends having the dealer replace the tires, $800 or so. I'll consider that when the time comes. There is no oil change interval; there is an oil life monitor that determines the need for change based on your driving habits. Common these days.

Very happy with it, just subscribed to XM-first three months are included.