Re: Black LS6 4sp Barn Find "Need Advice"
 

Yea I am interested in it as well... it would look SWEET next to the Black 69 Z... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

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Sweet for sure.
I think her pedals are worn too much so she is not real. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gifTruth is her pedals are so worn because her miles were 1/4 at a time.
Papers, look at her and close your eyes then open them and you are back in the mid 70's. Anyone that had one of these cars back then will know where I am coming from. I got goose bumps looking at these pictures. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif That engine compartment was mine as well as most of the real deal ls-6's back then.Suprise many of todays trailor queens looked like this also in the day.She was a true road warrior driven the way she was made to. PS removed, headers installed,intake and carb replaced, dist, accel super coil, Holly fuel pump reg and pump in rear,mr gasket two piece wing nuts, moroso solid mounts.Where is the line lock and moroso cool can???
Radio taken out to save weight and to stop you from busting your hand when it slid off the shifter, which was the first thing you changed. Original shifter boot and ring however to remain.
Look at the side tail pipes like we all had for quick removal at the strip.
Boy if she could talk the stories she could tell. She is worth restoring for that alone.
Will she bring 125K probally not without papers regardless of the fact she is more real than many of the so called documented ones.Will you lose on her with 65 to 70 invested never especially if you totally document her restoration.
Her sister sits about 25 miles from me also black m22 bench.I thought it was long gone but found it in just the last year. It has been sitting 25 years.If it comes up for sale papers or not I will have it since I am not into them for the investment.Break even is fine.
Good Luck but I would not sit on this now that the word is out https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif

Re: Black LS6 4sp Barn Find "Need Advice"
 

Thanks for the comments.

The VIN is easily readable even on my back with one eye closed holding a flash light in my mouth.

I think the chances of this car being in this condition and being a re-stamp or a created LS6 is remote at best. There's no speedo cable so in my mind mileage on the OD is irrelevant. If I'm reading the clutch peddle pad correctly (as shown in the picture) and I may not be as I'm new at clutch peddle pad reading it looks to me to be as worn-out as the rest of the car. I guess that's a good thing.

The car is going nowhere as I have locked up right of first refusal. My interest in the car is very high maybe too high. When I feel like this about a car I sometimes, ok always pay to much. I've been contacted by a number of members expressing an interest in the car. However, I'm not trying to sell a car I don't own, I'm trying to buy a car I don't own. I'll worry about selling/restoring later. The seller is not a car guy but suffers from a slight case of barrettjacksonitis. So, what's it worth.

Thanks

Re: Black LS6 4sp Barn Find "Need Advice"
 

A Black LS-6 similarly equipped but with a TH400 just sold for 80K a few weeks ago.Down from it's higher asking price,but fully restored w/Buildsheet,docs & photo history.
I know of a M-22 similarly equipped restored twin to yours that can be bought for 95K,with no takers right this very moment.

If you are looking for possible pedigree,besides the buildsheet,I'd aim for that rear axle tube suffix if the rear looks authentic to you and was never out.That Top hose,shroud,cover & tank say 4:10 to me,which spells solid liftered engine only.
I would also do a past owner search,especially if it's from your neck of the woods as it would be most convenient for you then for anyone else farther away.
If none of what I just mentioned pans out,I really don't think you will be as upside down on the car as you think when done,judging by the quality of work you've done in the past.

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Personaly after just restoring my 70 L78 that I have owned for 25 years I can honestly say that I would never spend the 8 months full time on restoring a car without documents.
Remember if its a a hobby your looking for to restore a car
and spend all that time and lots of money, then in my humble opinion by a project with documents,documents,documents.
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PJ

Re: Black LS6 4sp Barn Find "Need Advice"
 

I would drop the fuel tank, the LA plant frequently put build sheets on the top drivers side. Hopefully moisture and rodents have not destroyed it.

Paul

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I would drop the fuel tank, the LA plant frequently put build sheets on the top drivers side. Hopefully moisture and rodents have not destroyed it.

I agree with Paul, both LA LS6's I owned had build sheets on the tank.
Bruce

Re: Black LS6 4sp Barn Find "Need Advice"
 

That is an area of concern,but I wouldn't exclude other areas over it.
I found a Van Nuys sheet under the package tray jute.

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If the seller is asking"real money" for the car then I would ask to do a little digging for a build sheet. You find it, you buy the car. It would be different if the car were cheap and you could buy it and make out well build sheet or not.

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First impressions are everything !! Anyone who had one of these cars in the 70's did just what was done to this car Drove it !! Streetraced it and raced it on Sunday ! There weren't cruise nights like today, People didn't clone these cars like today, car shows catered to the tri fives and older. This is a perfect example of a car that was just put out of mind and left with the thought I'll fix it one day. Then came girls, family , houses, tuitions and so on. I am willing to bet anyone, anything from what I've seen its Dead Nuts Real !!
My 70 LS-6 hardtop was dressed in the same fashion
TM2R intake,stager jetted 4492 holley, carb heat sheild,valley tray, Holley pump out back, regulator on the inner fender, fuel pressure gauge, Cool can, Mickey Thomson 2into2into1 scavenger headers, Lunati cam,Balanced and Bluprinted bottom end,Moroso 8 quart pan, roller rockers,Accel dual point with point retard, MSD6 box, Malory coil and rev limiter,underdrive pulleys, alternator field cutout, M/T valve covers with pan evacuation,oil cooler, 2800 convertor, Fairbanks reverse manual valvebody TH400, 4:56 gears out back, NMW upper rear control extenders, trick front springs, 90/10 shocks, ground ctl arm bushings, B&B extended lenth ball joints, riding on Cragers and M/T street slicks and I drove to High School every day, raced it every night and to the track on Sundays 11:40's with open pipes and sneakers.! 6500 shifts every day almost every shift, day in and day out !!! never hurt the #'s matching engine or rear, smoked the trans numerous times didnt hurt the case thank God!! Working part time at Steve Kaniuka's didn't hurt any either or did wrenching on a Mod Gas National Record holder on the weekends. The 70's that was when you could have serious fun with these cars and it was Just that Fun !! I wouldn't be afraid of that car everything points in the only direction real !! I can say I've looked at a couple in My time as Lead Judge for NCOA"S Unrestored Class for Years, Owned way to many and worked on I can't remember all of them !! Buy it !!! Enough said

Jim https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif
If I can find My photo album I'll post the picts and theres a picture of My car Fathom Blue , White top, stripes and bucket interior leaving the line at Cecil County dragway against Ray Allen https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif with the original owner at the wheel !! I'm looking https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif