Re: 1970 Chevelle buildsheet should be fraud!
 

Mean't to say "is it up to the buyer" ......not the seller.

Re: 1970 Chevelle buildsheet should be fraud!
 

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I would have some concern sending a buildsheet in the mail to someone to verify if it were mine being sent. Who's responsible if it is lost or damaged?

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That's a valid concern, but this sort of practice has been happening for decades with rare/valuable paper items such as postage stamps. These are regularly sent through the mail or other shipping services to organizations that perform certifications. Insurance, tracking, and signature releases are the norm. Items being lost or damaged are a rare exception.

I'm guessing that sending important/valuable/sensitive documents via FedEx, etc. is probably fairly safe these days.

What do the Mopar guys do when Galen inspects their stuff? Does he only do in-person inspections?

Re: 1970 Chevelle buildsheet should be fraud!
 

Actually Galen does 2 types , 1 is a decode of the original cowl tags, docs etc where you mail/fax or email the info to him for +/- $300 and /or the 2nd is a physical inspection that is several hrs long and fairly pricy. I think most car guys try to gather a few mopars together to split the cost for him to come visit ie Flights, hotels,meals etc. it ads up quickly.I've had him do a 69 Charger where we just sent him pretty well every piece of paper we had on the car, pics etc and he send us his report.

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I think this is why the GOOD in the know cars always bring big big bucks and stay in a circle of guys in the know. Its bad out there I think owner history (talking to an original owner) is one of the most important things there is but thats hard to get with cars being passed around so much.

Re: 1970 Chevelle buildsheet should be fraud!
 

Just another reason original unrestored cars bring BIG dollars... there are no excuses they are what they are... no made up crap... no fake docs... no added BIG engines, Bucket seats, Good colors, & etc...
Just my .02... but hey what do I know??? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

Re: 1970 Chevelle buildsheet should be fraud!
 

Ok as promised here is the name of the company that manufactures the PH testing pen. Lineco, the item number is L533-0023. Their website is www.lineco.com or you can use the link to purchase one www.redimat.com/products/accessories/l533-0023-lineco-ph-testing-pen.html

It's not a definitive method but the people I work with tell me that all pre-90's documents that have been improperly stored should have a PH level that is really low indicating that the paper is acidic. I think a build sheet that has been sitting under the carpet, seat, gas tank or underlayment etc. fits the improperly stored scenario.

The guys I work with also stated that you need to look at the paper under a high powered jewelers loop and look at the texture and grain of the paper of known original documents. Todays paper has a lot of recycled content and looks different under a loop or microscope.

Also make sure you store your documents in acid free folders and proctective sheets in order to preserve them.

I am going to be talking with one of the conservsation and preservation companies today or tomorrow and I will ask them about any quick and easy method to determine a documents age.

Re: 1970 Chevelle buildsheet should be fraud!
 

DaJudge, that's all fine and good, but since the deterioration of paper is a simple chemical reaction, it is fairly easy to make new paper look, and chemically-test, as old. It's been going on for quite some time in regards to art, historical writings, musical scores, etc., that people have successfully forged in the past.

I remember watching something regarding a medieval document that was tested as real, and the person that forged then discussed how he did it. Quite amazing, really.

So, yes, original cars are much safer, but as has been mentioned, that still doesn't guarantee anything, as there's simply too much money in it for 100% believability. It's really too bad...

Re: 1970 Chevelle buildsheet should be fraud!
 

I agree with you King, I mentioned above it's not going to be a definitive check, but it gives you another tool to help you make the most educated decision you can.

Re: 1970 Chevelle buildsheet should be fraud!
 

I worked in the GM print area when I started working for GM and one of the forms I printed were build sheets.

Re: 1970 Chevelle buildsheet should be fraud!
 

Oh boy there is gonna be a run on 6250 BPI tapes created on 3420 mainframe tape drives and Telex impact printers... better check who's buying the stuff on ebay... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif