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COPO_Anders 08-12-2006 10:47 AM

Re: uncommon copo found
 
Charley, 6161x11īs bio says: "collecting and restoring documented Camaros". Beside knowing the delivery-date, shown in the first post, I also believe he knows the invoice-date. So the invoice SHOULD be with the car. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

COPO_Anders 08-12-2006 11:03 AM

Re: uncommon copo found
 
According to Ed C. my car COULD be a Malcolm Konner car, but the NICB search turned up empty handed. My car has the body# before LVīs Camaro.
The car in this thread, LVīs Camaro, and other known MK-cars, are all well optioned. Mine isnīt.
Does anyone out there know if Malcolm Konner ordered any "plain Jane" cars for dragracing ?

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NovaMob03 08-12-2006 05:04 PM

Re: uncommon copo found
 
Sorry. This transaction happened a while back & I rembered this body # being referenced against 2 other cars, LVcamaro's being one of them. Perhaps the other car was yours COPO_ Anders. Did you ever dicuss your copo with Dan P?
It makes sense to have gotten a 'plain jane' from MK or any other Supercar dealer. Not everyone wanted options or were willing to pay extra for them. JMO

COPO_Anders 08-12-2006 06:16 PM

Re: uncommon copo found
 
Yes Dan and I PMīd each other a while back. He said that Malcolm Konner cars are normally well optioned, and that one of the bodynumbers between LVīs and this one (not mine) was also a car from MK.

deuce-less 08-12-2006 07:01 PM

Re: uncommon copo found
 
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i think if i were a dealer "in the know", like MK, i would probably order a spread of maybe 5 copo cars, say 353000, 353001, 353002, 353003, 353004 and 353005. i would equip each car a little differently, by so doing i would cover my bases for appeal to different individuals. my bias as a dealer may show up in some of the cars, such as a highly optioned copo rs, although in the end i would want to make a return on my investment. i believe that most dealers at the time enjoyed their business and had loyalty toward their car marque. jmo https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 08-14-2006 05:15 PM

Re: uncommon copo found
 
The dealers didn't specify the desired body numbers when ordering cars, so the dealer would not know (or care) whether they ordered/received sequential body numbered cars. I'm sure it could happen, but I've seen a bunch of cars ordered by the same dealer and have a couple thousand body numbers between them. The best way to document this car is to chase down the prior owners, because the blocks of copo camaro numbers are not as defined as they are for the copo novas - making it difficult to conclude when a body is/is not a copo.

Mr70 08-14-2006 05:42 PM

Re: uncommon copo found
 
Would Jim Mattison be able to shed more light on this subject?
He is bringing his L-88 Corvette to race at SCR9 in a few weeks.

deuce-less 08-14-2006 08:57 PM

Re: uncommon copo found
 
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owner history, nicb report, original documentation and certification all conbine to create great provenance for a copo car.

i understand that chevrolet assigned the body numbers when the cars were accepted into the system for build. many copo camaros ordered at the same time by the same dealer had sequential body numbers. i am sure there may be exceptions to the rule, i suppose that in the end you have to be comfortable with the cars history and documentation. as a side note i agree that dealers did not select the body numbers for their ordered cars. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 08-14-2006 09:32 PM

Re: uncommon copo found
 
Agreed, you have to be comfortable with the history and doc's - and of course everyone has a different comfort level with this stuff.

I'm trying to think of other clues to check. The X11 on the TT is no help compared to an X44 D80 notation, is the speedo still there - possibly a double copo with the 140MPH? The big front bar? Special hole in f/wall for the C/I hood?

COPO_Anders 08-14-2006 10:12 PM

Re: uncommon copo found
 
Marlin, have you seen a bunch of 1969 COPO Camaros that were all ordered at the same time by the same dealer that had a couple of thousand bodynumbers between them ?
If I understand you right, if a dealer ordered lets say five COPOīs, the bodynumbers on those five cars would probably NOT be sequential. Even if they were ordered at the same time, right ?

I just want to clarify. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif


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