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Re: 1969 Z11 Camaro Convertible Pace Car Wrecked S
I heard that Unique Performance (the ones that build the revined Shelbys) is going to start making rebodied e-type chryslers. The way they do the shelbys is to take a real mustang and redo it into a Elanor shelby and ford lets them revin it as a Shelby 500E. I wonder if they are going to do the same with the E-bodys?
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Re: 1969 Z11 Camaro Convertible Pace Car Wrecked S
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I was told that the maker of the Camaro body was served with a cease and desist order by GM. Might just be a rumor but that is what I was told. I saw the car at SEMA. Neither door was closed all the way and each door panel was peeling the pinch weld molding off as the door tried to close. Here is the vin on the dash..cute.
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Re: 1969 Z11 Camaro Convertible Pace Car Wrecked S
I noticed last week that the website for the crate bodies states that the project is on hold so Charlie you may be correct. I know that whatever happens there will be vin issues when these things hit the streets. State inspections will probably be real interesting.I guess we will have to wait and see what happens.That website is dynacorn.com if anyone needs it.
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Re: 1969 Z11 Camaro Convertible Pace Car Wrecked S
At least they are using the correct Rosette style rivets to hold their VIN on. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif
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Re: 1969 Z11 Camaro Convertible Pace Car Wrecked S
On the year one website, it says each body come with a certificate of certified welds and certificate of inspection from D.O.T https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif Roger
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Re: 1969 Z11 Camaro Convertible Pace Car Wrecked S
Care to take a guess at what they might have invested into this venture; The loss down the road, and eventual legal proceedings that may occur from all of this? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif...I felt it to be a very sad story in the History of the Camaro to have something like this arise from the outsoursing(SP) evolving in todays hobby! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif
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Re: 1969 Z11 Camaro Convertible Pace Car Wrecked S
I don't have a problem with a Camaro body being built. We need the cars, just like 32 Fords and other kits. Any legal arguements are gonna be about money. Shelby sues any Cobra replica builder that uses the Cobra name. You wouldn't want me cutting up a real pace car to make a Pro-touring car would you ?
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Re: 1969 Z11 Camaro Convertible Pace Car Wrecked S
No, and I think the direction this thread was intended for was on the interchanging of VIN/Trim Tags to the new reproduction shells...No? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif
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Re: 1969 Z11 Camaro Convertible Pace Car Wrecked S
It's not illegal
USC 18 Section 511 CITE- 18 USC Sec. 511 01/06/03 -EXPCITE- TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE PART I - CRIMES CHAPTER 25 - COUNTERFEITING AND FORGERY Here it is for those not wanting to click the link above. Sec. 511. Altering or removing motor vehicle identification numbers -STATUTE- (a) A person who - (1) knowingly removes, obliterates, tampers with, or alters an identification number for a motor vehicle or motor vehicle part; or (2) with intent to further the theft of a motor vehicle, knowingly removes, obliterates, tampers with, or alters a decal or device affixed to a motor vehicle pursuant to the Motor Vehicle Theft Prevention Act, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both. (b)(1) Subsection (a) of this section does not apply to a removal, obliteration, tampering, or alteration by a person specified in paragraph (2) of this subsection (unless such person knows that the vehicle or part involved is stolen). (2) The persons referred to in paragraph (1) of this subsection are - (A) a motor vehicle scrap processor or a motor vehicle demolisher who complies with applicable State law with respect to such vehicle or part; (B) a person who repairs such vehicle or part, if the removal, obliteration, tampering, or alteration is reasonably necessary for the repair; (C) a person who restores or replaces an identification number for such vehicle or part in accordance with applicable State law; and (D) a person who removes, obliterates, tampers with, or alters a decal or device affixed to a motor vehicle pursuant to the Motor Vehicle Theft Prevention Act, if that person is the owner of the motor vehicle, or is authorized to remove, obliterate, tamper with or alter the decal or device by - (i) the owner or his authorized agent; (ii) applicable State or local law; or (iii) regulations promulgated by the Attorney General to implement the Motor Vehicle Theft Prevention Act. (c) As used in this section, the term - (1) ''identification number'' means a number or symbol that is inscribed or affixed for purposes of identification under chapter 301 and part C of subtitle VI of title 49; (2) ''motor vehicle'' has the meaning given that term in section 32101 of title 49; (3) ''motor vehicle demolisher'' means a person, including any motor vehicle dismantler or motor vehicle recycler, who is engaged in the business of reducing motor vehicles or motor vehicle parts to metallic scrap that is unsuitable for use as either a motor vehicle or a motor vehicle part; (4) ''motor vehicle scrap processor'' means a person - (A) who is engaged in the business of purchasing motor vehicles or motor vehicle parts for reduction to metallic scrap for recycling; (B) who, from a fixed location, uses machinery to process metallic scrap into prepared grades; and (C) whose principal product is metallic scrap for recycling; but such term does not include any activity of any such person relating to the recycling of a motor vehicle or a motor vehicle part as a used motor vehicle or a used motor vehicle part. (d) For purposes of subsection (a) of this section, the term ''tampers with'' includes covering a program decal or device affixed to a motor vehicle pursuant to the Motor Vehicle Theft Prevention Act for the purpose of obstructing its visibility. |
Re: 1969 Z11 Camaro Convertible Pace Car Wrecked S
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Mr. Lillard, I seem to tend to think your discussions for this site lean toward the Historical aspects of the Camaro itsself; otherwise I dont think Clary would have started all this. I am more for the Historical view and preservation of the cars we have! So, with that in mind, I believe that the Shell's are of no value and I care not to see one of these shell's be retrofitted for the purpose of keeping a PaceCar, for example with this thread, alive. That is a touchy point though with all the GoodMark Items available as well, so this can be contardictory. So, I like Mark C.'s research that he has provided. Can we preserve a car as a time capsule, maybe..most likely no. This PaceCar deserves to be fixed and brought back..but as an overseas shell?? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif...BTW< this thing really got the squish done to it...
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