Re: 1970 RAIV Judge Ragtops
 

yes, GTO_Don had a special order paint 69 Judge that was sold out of Pontiac's retail store in Michigan. It was also Goldenrod Yellow. It as listed as such on the PHS and Build sheet. Michael Green has a special order paint 71 Judge convert that is probably almost done being restored. I think it is close to a Camaro color Rally Green? It has a white top and Ivory interior and was ordered for a Florida dealer to pay special tribute to the Florida Gators if I remember the story correctly.

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HI, I would assume it is a non pontiac color, that's why the 2 dashes on trim plate. Goldenrod yellow a non judge color, but still a pontiac one. The car is really a one of a kind, paint really nice for being 33 yrs old. It is a Freemont Ca.built car. My thought it is prob. only RAIV built this way. It is really a loaded car also.
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HI, I would assume it is a non pontiac color, that's why the 2 dashes on trim plate. Goldenrod yellow a non judge color, but still a pontiac one. The car is really a one of a kind, paint really nice for being 33 yrs old. It is a Freemont Ca.built car. My thought it is prob. only RAIV built this way. It is really a loaded car also.
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Sounds really sharp..any photos?
Sam [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]

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<font color="yellow"> </font> [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img] I know Mike Greene quite well. I know of his green 71 convt. When you say Don, I assume you mean Don White. Don great guy, just talked w/him the other nite.
Did you buy his black RAIV 70?

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HI Give me your email, I'll send them. Do you have a 69 Z-28? My friend has a ZL 1, copo, &amp; yenko.
I'm also into the 69 Tas. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif[/img]

Re: 1970 RAIV Judge Ragtops
 

Just because there are two dashes does not mean it's not a non-Pontiac color. For example, if my car came in Rallye Red (which is the same as Carousel Red, I believe), it came with two dashes, even though it is designated as an optional color. I am not sure why that is. I feel the two dashes for your car is not determinant on whether it was a Pontiac color or not because Goldenrod Yellow is obviously a Pontiac color.

The two dashes has confused me and I am not sure if there is a rule of thumb to it. As I know it's been used for RPO and non-RPO colors (for a respective model) as stated above, it seems like there is no rule of thumb.

Re: 1970 RAIV Judge Ragtops
 

carousel red is the same as hugger orange [code 72] on late 68's and all of 69. goldenrod yellow is a f-body only color and thats why the 2 dashes are on the trim tag. it was also used on chevelles in 69 [ss396 color only] as special order. on build sheets it list as rpo [special paint solid] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif[/img]

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HI I agreewith D [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif[/img]on, my thoughts were Golenrod Yellow was a bird color. I compared my spec. order yelloe to Daytona paint chip, looks same. I would assume this is prob. only RAIV out there in this color? I thought 2 dashes meant non pont. color? <font color="yellow"> </font>

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You've basically said the same thing I was, but more eloquently. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

All I was saying is two dashes does not necessarily mean special order, per what Olds did with Rallye Red (and I believe Sebring Yellow too).

What were Carousel Red GTOs designated as? They still had the 72 or they had dashes?

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HI, I could be wrong, but I'm sure Goldenrod yellow a bird only color. I took paint chip it seems to match the Daytona Yellow. My cousin has a 70 Lt-1 vette, looks the same.
I think tech. speaking there is no way to tell true color w/dashes. But my car is orig paint, &amp; I lifted the carpet etc to check, also someone wrote in grease pecil in door jam that it was spec. color &amp; date car made.
I'm really happy w/car I feel it is a real unique car, esp. w/raiv/color &amp; all the options.
It was a Freemont car, is'nt that near San Fran.? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif[/img]