The Supercar Registry - Late 69 Camaro 10E Build Date vs Muncie Build Date

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Originally Posted by Kurt S (Post 1463362)

I agree, no issues with that trans.
I bet if you clean to the left of the axle code, there's a C there.
Does it have a 480 distributor?

Here for reference is a Vintage Certified unrestored 10A
Dist 9E 13 2003
Trans 9R03B
Rear CBU 1006G1

Congrats Graeme! Beautiful car.
Buddy

That looks like a great car. Congrats. :drool:

Love the black vinyl and stripes on lemans blue. Last time I saw one was at the ICC Camaro National in 97. Congrats and enjoy!!!!!!

I had a Lemans Blue SS black vinyl car back in 93' that I later sold and should have kept. Oh how prices have changed since then (lol) That was 5K back in the day. Remember that one George Brown.

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Originally Posted by William (Post 1463244)

When the quarter panel tooling for the 1970 Camaro failed, Norwood had to scramble to keep '69s in production. Exactly when this became known isn't clear. Through about 09A Z/28s mostly had June/July dated transmissions. Starting 09C, May dated transmissions show up. It appears that at some point, surplus Muncie transmissions were rounded up from other assembly plants and shipped to Norwood. I have another 10E Z/28 with the same date as yours; another has a trans dated May 7. Same for COPOs. Know of a 10A car with a May 23 trans.

Muncie still produced 1969 model year trans for Norwood [P9R; mostly October dates] but there are a few like yours with much earlier dates.

The entire basis for the 1971 Camaro being advanced to 1970 was based entirely on the draft proposed rule making then contained in the pending 1970 FVMS 208 "Occupant Crash Protection", the original draft then set for a January 1970 revision as promulgated by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA).

As a courtesy to the manufacturers the circulation of draft rule-making distributed for comment is normal, and in this case NHTSA pulled a fast one creating regulatory conditions that caused GM to kill the 1969 body style way ahead of schedule.

Adding inury to insult - NHTSA proceeded to then redact the draft FVMS 208 rule-making significantly and also delayed it until nearly 1971-taking the very conditions causing GM to kill the gen 1 car early completely off the table.

Discussed in Echoes of Norwood on pages 134-135 and on 139-140.

Attached are research excerpts from three different dates and three different newspapers all reporting that the 1971 cars were actually being advanced to 1970 production.

Very interesting. I had read some of that years ago but just got a refresh to keep some of that back of mind. I recall seeing a late 69 bodied car that was titled as 1970. When were those cars ran in production? During the end of that 1st week of November before the plant closed?

Thanks for sharing the info.

Gen 1 was always intended to run through 1970, the 1969 restyled body was a major investment but the book “Unsafe at any Speed”, Congress, political infighting, and proposed crash rules doomed the 1969 early.

Here is a press photo of one wearing a 1970 plate.