Re: 1969 Camaro....is this legal?
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lzdick</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 396L35</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...I have seen at least 4 camaros built out of firebirds and passed off as real </div></div>

<span style="font-weight: bold">Would that be one of the infamous &quot;CamaroBirds&quot;?</span> </div></div>




We call them &quot;Firaros&quot; !!

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&quot;Firaros&quot; Thas a good one! I was running a Camaro wanted ad and a guy called, First words out of his mouth &quot;I have exactly what your looking for&quot; Turns out to be a Camaro Bird, Guy actully got mad at me when I told him I was not interested. I do not understand why anyone would take the time to do that....

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scuncio kid</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does dynacorn make the 67-68 Camaro coupe yet, this guy on ebay is selling the very first Camaro made 00001. #330465188948. Looks to me like a beat up race car. Now take that vin and put it on a new Dynacorn shell and you got the very first Camaro ever built. Now thats funny! </div></div>

And it would be brand new too!

Jan

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: beater68427</div><div class="ubbcode-body">&quot;Firaros&quot; Thas a good one! I was running a Camaro wanted ad and a guy called, First words out of his mouth &quot;I have exactly what your looking for&quot; Turns out to be a Camaro Bird, Guy actully got mad at me when I told him I was not interested. I do not understand why anyone would take the time to do that.... </div></div>


I actually bought 2 'Firaros' back in the day..both off the same guy. One 67 Rs-SS loaded..and one 68 Rs-SS vert. I gave them both thier rightful due !! I parted them both out and sold the parts and scrapped the shells !!

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Don't forget the original 'Firaros' were the SCCA Trans-Am 302 Chevy powered Firebirds of Craig Fisher &amp; Jerry Titus..

http://www.trans-amseries.com/Drivers/MarkBalestra.htm

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That's a nice webpage, and some great photos!

Only thing I noticed that was incorrect was:

&quot;For 1968 and 1969, a loophole in the SCCA rules permitted Pontiac Firebirds to run Chevrolet engines, as that's how they were sold in Canada.&quot;

They never made ANY 67-69 Firebirds with Chevy engines in Canada. The &quot;loophole&quot; that they found was that other Canadian-built Pontiacs were sold with Chevy engines, but never the Firebird. The SCCA didn't bother to check, and the Titus Firebird was allowed to run with a 302.

The reason they used the 302 was that Pontiac and their Special Projects Team were having trouble with their new tunnel-port 303 RAV engine. The 302 was an established engine, using proven factory parts. Pontiac had to start from scratch as they never had a &quot;small block&quot; in their inventory. They had to make a short deck block, forged crank, and heads for a 303. Everything was new, so it took much longer to develop.

Since they needed the racing experience, and Herb Adams had made some significant advances in the suspension area of the F-body, they decided to run a Chevy 302 in order to get track time. The Camaro/Firebird handled phenomenally well, and Herb Adams's suspension work would lay the foundation for the Trans Am.

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Yep you're correct and the loophole actually how 'other Canadian Pontiacs were factory Chevy powered' not the F'Birds..

To further clarify that second paragraph, they never made ANY 67-69 Camaros or F'Birds in Canada period!.

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