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Whew. My mistake.

Thanks for clearing it up. My apolgies.

Wayne

Never understood why the NCRS is OK with fake POP's and build sheets and re-stamps. In fact it seems like it is encouraged. Oh well. Some things never change.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Belair62</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Never understood why the NCRS is OK with fake POP's and build sheets and re-stamps. In fact it seems like it is encouraged. Oh well. Some things never change. </div></div>

Bob,

NCRS is not OK with and does not encourage trying to fraud a vehicle with fake P-O-Ps, Build Sheets and re-stamps. You are commenting on something you don't know anything about. I don't recall the last time I saw you involved with NCRS.

You are one Hell of a great fellow, but, stick to subjects you are familiar with. If it were not for the NCRS, the rest of the hobby would be at a disadvantage on knowledge about the items you mentioned above. The NCRS has done more than any group to educate its members, and others, on realizing what is real and what is not.

I don't mean to start a pissing contest but, how involved with NCRS are you? Why do you pretend to know what NCRS does and does not stand for? Come on down to Charlotte, NC for the National Convention in July. I will pay for your yearly membership, entry fee to the National meet and you can stay in my room (yes, double beds [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]) and I will personally introduce you to some of the best folks you will ever want to meet. It will, I'm sure, clear up some of your unsubstantiated, unwarranted and uninformed misconceptions.

Take care and, call me if you have any other questions about NCRS. Oh yeah, I love Camaros, Novas, Chevelles AND big Chevies too. No Bullshit...come on down to Charlotte and let me introduce you to a whole new set of great people than can give you an education.

Come on, Bob, talk is cheap. This would make a great write-up in July on this website. The article could read, 'I went with Mark and here is what I saw, witnessed and so on...This is what I experienced first hand...' Most likely, you would write...'I had a hard time keeping up with Mark and his buddies...' [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/BelairSucks.gif[/img]

Regards,

Mark
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Mdonnally

Well Mark, I never got into NCRS. All I know is what I read. And if you are into NCRS like it sounds I would imagine you call out all the fake POP, restamped blocks etc that you can pick out in under a minute as you say ? Let's hope so. I wouldn't really care to walk around an NCRS meet with you but thanks. Sounds like fun. Why don't you educate us all right here and tell us how to pick out a fake POP ? Maybe you can show us the one you bought and point out the differences ?

Bob,

You know, full well, I'm not going educate you or anyone else about what is real and what is not here on this website. I've said...come on down instead of running your mouth about things you know nothing about. It would be fun, as you have said, but, you would rather throw stones instead of going to any trouble to learn about things you know nothing about.

I hesitate to get into it with someone who is as popular as you about a controversial subject but, so be it. What have you read, specifically? Tell us all, specifically, what you know about NCRS. You have already said you never got in it but you somehow know what they stand for, how they think, what they know. Please enlighten us. I've got the courage to come to this site and involve myself and enjoy myself among fellow Camaro enthusiasts. I have never seen you post on the NCRS site. Have you ever posted there?

Bob, please accept my invitation to come to Charlotte. Come on down and meet fellow enthusiasts, like yourself. I truely believe you can clear up some ignorant, uninformed misconceptions. If you do, I believe you will be honest enough to write about your experiences here for the membership.

Regards,

Mark

Running my mouth ? If you read my post it says "Never understood why the NCRS is OK with fake POP's and build sheets and re-stamps. In fact it seems like it is encouraged. Oh well. Some things never change." I don't think that is throwing stones at the NCRS is it ? By your own comment about your purchase of a fake one because they "deduct" for not having one I have to ask you since you are an expert.Why did you feel the need to buy one ? Why do they deduct for NOT having a POP ? It seems like you are pretty much forced into buying a fake one if you are not in posession of an original and are after those big points. I don't know what they "stand for" Mark and I don't really feel the need to visit the site when I could just ask here. Why don't you be the ambassador for the NCRS and clear up the ignorant and uninformed ? Do they deduct for a known fake POP ? Do they deduct for a known restamped block ? Do they deduct for a fake tank sticker ? As for my "popularity" that is really irrelevant and also questionable !!I haven't been around in 2 years. Let me ask you one simple question...if there is a 435 horse car at an NCRS event with a fake pop, a fake tank sticker, a restamped block, and just a beautiful "numbers matching" car...how would that car score at an NCRS event ?

Let's take it one step at a time.

Expert=X(unknown factor) spert=(drips under pressure)

NCRS asks for a POP because they were included in the new car delivery paperwork as it exited from the back of the assembly plant.

That is why they deduct because NCRS judges Corvettes based on how the car was delivered and it was delivered with a POP.

If you do not have the original you can either buy a reproduction POP or take the deduction for not having one.

You do not feel the need to visit the site because you would rather blather about things you know nothing about.

I don't need to be the ambassador, I have invited and offered to pay for you to experience NCRS firsthand.

If, in the opinion of the judges, they feel the block is restamped, a deduction will be divided between the pad surface and the stamping(s) itself.

Tank stickers are not asked for nor judged during judging but, there are several knowledgeable folks that will readily offer an opinion on any and all paperwork. Please, if you have any paperwork you would like to have observed, bring it to Charlotte.

No...you are a popular fellow here, and rightly so. Why you haven't been around in two years is none of my business...I'm glad your back. Why don't you come to Charlotte and tell me what you want me to know.

As for your last question, if the unit appears original, NCRS will judge it based on that appearance. With that being said, it would be difficult to pass off anything other than an original during National NCRS judging. If you know, specifically, one that has, please let us know...specifically.

Mark....so far you have insulted me on each post on this subject. I'm not running my mouth, blathering or any other BS that you are writing here. But thanks for your responses anyway. Fake POP, re-stamps, fake paperwork are just an invitation to fraud and in my uninformed opinion, has no place in the hobby. The average shmuck out looking to buy a decent car is not as brilliant as the experts and will take the fake crap at face value. Be it a Top Flight car,a Chevette or a Rambler. I think that was the intent of this thread.The EBay ad states.."THE DISCERNING CORVETTE COMMUNITY SINCE 1988. BACKED WITH YEARS OF NCRS JUDGING HISTORY AND A MEMBER OF NCRS SINCE 1979" That's why I questioned why NCRS was so willing to accept...but I guess it is the discerning car owner who would rather present fake documentation than take an honest deduction.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Belair62</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mark....so far you have insulted me on each post on this subject. I'm not running my mouth, blathering or any other BS that you are writing here. But thanks for your responses anyway. Fake POP, re-stamps, fake paperwork are just an invitation to fraud and in my uninformed opinion, has no place in the hobby. The average shmuck out looking to buy a decent car is not as brilliant as the experts and will take the fake crap at face value. Be it a Top Flight car,a Chevette or a Rambler. I think that was the intent of this thread.The EBay ad states.."THE DISCERNING CORVETTE COMMUNITY SINCE 1988. BACKED WITH YEARS OF NCRS JUDGING HISTORY AND A MEMBER OF NCRS SINCE 1979" That's why I questioned why NCRS was so willing to accept...but I guess it is the discerning car owner who would rather present fake documentation than take an honest deduction. </div></div>

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Ken [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif[/img]