Re: 1972 oldsmobile 442 4 speed (survivor)
 

Certainly a pretty car and very unusual being a 4 speed. Love the paperwork. Some one could add the sculptured rear bumper easily, they could even put a W25 hood on and still be in your car at a very reasonable price. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

Re: 1972 oldsmobile 442 4 speed (survivor)
 

Very nice car especially for the money. But a "survivor status" having a reapint? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

Re: 1972 oldsmobile 442 4 speed (survivor)
 

I guess the survivor term has several meanings, and I might not even know when a car can no longer be considered a survivor, but I will explain why I call it that: engine has never bean removed or altered, interior never altered or restored, the jams and under hood and trunk are all original paint, original door seals, window felts, bumpers, trim, grilles, lenses, and so on, the body wasn't stripped to the bare shell and repainted so I guess that's what I base it's survivor status on, if the "survivor" word doesn't fit for some, I can agree, we will call it a unmolested original instead, I can tell that this is how I like to find them, drive it home,no part hunting needed, glove box full of original paper,

Re: 1972 oldsmobile 442 4 speed (survivor)
 

Still a very nice car and priced well IMO! Good luck!

Re: 1972 oldsmobile 442 4 speed (survivor)
 

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Still a very nice car and priced well IMO! Good luck!

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That's a good price for an Auto... a great price for a 4 gear https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

Re: 1972 oldsmobile 442 4 speed (survivor)
 

I have feelings similar to Hemibee on cars like this. There needs to be a survivor-ish term to encompass unmolested cars like this that got a quick respray in the original color, particularly when they don't get into the jambs or trunk. I know that survivor is becoming an official term and there needs to be a line somewhere, but I'm not really offended by the usage of the term on a car like this.

Re: 1972 oldsmobile 442 4 speed (survivor)
 

So what do you call an unmolested car with nothing but maintenace things changed over a 40 year or so period? Survivor #1? How would you judge a car like this Olds we are talking about with the same equipment, color, style etc. with another Olds that did NOT have a quick respray. Who gets the nod? Will the real survivor please stand up? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

Re: 1972 oldsmobile 442 4 speed (survivor)
 

Is the paint the main reason for calling a car a survivor??? I am just curious more than anything, https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

Re: 1972 oldsmobile 442 4 speed (survivor)
 

To me yes. But that is really only my opinion. That is probably the hardest thing to keep the nicest. Steve Shauger is much better equipped to explain the survivor status than I am. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Re: 1972 oldsmobile 442 4 speed (survivor)
 

If the Corvette folks hadn't trademarked the Survivor name I gather we wouldn't be debating this.... Sam, I'd call your Nova a 'time capsule' and this 442 a clean survivor (note the lower case 's' - does that help?) https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif