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the427king 03-16-2020 12:30 AM

I'm certainly no scientist but I'd love to get an answer to this question from one ... if this is so much worse than the flu because the death to infection rate ratio is so much higher, how do they know how many people are infected If hardly anyone is getting tested ????? Some say the infected numbers could already be huge,which would bring the ratio way down
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Lee Stewart 03-16-2020 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by the427king (Post 1488677)
I'm certainly no scientist but I'd love to get an answer to this question from one ... if this is so much worse than the flu because the death to infection rate ratio is so much higher, how do they know how many people are infected If hardly anyone is getting tested ????? Some say the infected numbers could already be huge,which would bring the ratio way down.

Yes that is a very important question and has been on everyone's mind for quite some time. Due to the fact that we are not getting enough test kits into the hands of qualified people which has been a very sore point.

Here in N.M. they opened the first drive-thru test center in ABQ. But Santa Fe which has a few cases has no public testing center. Tri-Core, one of our biggest labs says they are all set for testing. So send in the tests . . . and all they have is silence . . . until today. We only have 19 positive cases in NM. No deaths.

All we can go on is the world wide stats that say 150,000 infected with 5000 deaths. And I am not even sure that is up to date.

Lee Stewart 03-16-2020 01:07 AM

Schools closures were the first step. Here is the second:

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SANTA FE, N.M. - The New Mexico Public Health Secretary announced new restrictions to restaurants and bars that would limit occupancy in order to prevent the spread of COVID-19. Secretary Kathy Kunkel issued the emergency order on Sunday.

Beginning Monday, March 16. all restaurants, bars, breweries, eateries and other food establishments shall operate at no greater than 50% maximum occupancy and no greater than 50% of seating occupancy.

Additionally, no more than six patrons will be allowed to be seated together at tables or booths and all occupied tables and booths must be separated by six feet. Patrons also may not be seated at bars and standing patrons will not be served.

The public health order also prohibits gatherings of 100 people or more, but includes exemptions for shelters, retail or grocery stores, courthouses, correction and detention facilities and hospitals, among others.

All casinos and horse racing facilities must also close until April 10. Casinos operating on tribal land are exempt from the provision.

“The best thing New Mexicans can do right now is self-isolate and limit person-to-person contact,” said Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham in a press release. “We all have to pull together in this effort. Keep washing your hands with soap and water regularly. Stay at home. Remember your neighbors and buy only what you need when you are shopping.”
https://www.kob.com/albuquerque-news...74949/?cat=500

Once again IMO . . . it's not enough. I understand that no states want to decimate their small businesses. But these namby-pamby restrictions just aren't going to accomplish what is needed to contain the virus.

I would rather see 2 full weeks of total lockdown and accept the damage, which the Fed can help alleviate, then instituting half assed measures like these.

markinnaples 03-16-2020 01:13 AM

IMHO, I think we should all take precautions, but overreacting in rampant. Considering the recovery rate of those who have had it is really good, I think that the panicking is overblown. Just my opinion.

Crush 03-16-2020 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by markinnaples (Post 1488688)
IMHO, I think we should all take precautions, but overreacting in rampant. Considering the recovery rate of those who have had it is really good, I think that the panicking is overblown. Just my opinion.

Totally agree
Of the hundreds of thousands tested in South Korea 98.x % were NEGATIVE!

Lee Stewart 03-16-2020 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Crush (Post 1488690)
Totally agree
Of the hundreds of thousands tested in South Korea 98.x % were NEGATIVE!

How South Korea Scaled Coronavirus Testing While the U.S. Fell Dangerously Behind

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By learning from a MERS outbreak in 2015, South Korea was prepared and acted swiftly to ramp up testing when the new coronavirus appeared there. Meanwhile, the U.S., plagued by delay and dysfunction, wasted its advantage.
https://www.propublica.org/article/h...erously-behind

Crush 03-16-2020 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart (Post 1488691)
How South Korea Scaled Coronavirus Testing While the U.S. Fell Dangerously Behind



https://www.propublica.org/article/h...erously-behind

Yep read that too. I think we need to see more in the news about negative test results and recovery. If the media reported every minute on all the ways people died per day and of what, we would turn into a helpless society.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/art...#heart-disease

Lee Stewart 03-16-2020 01:26 AM

Massachusetts is allowing takeout and food delivery only, banning people from dining out.

What we need are draconian measures like this one!

markinnaples 03-16-2020 01:29 AM

Absolutely disagree. People should be smart, but this complete shutdown is not needed.
Where was this panic for the H1N1 epidemic that was far worse?
I'm not saying that people should needlessly put themselves in harms way, and if you have a compromised immune system or elderly, then stay home and stay safe, but for the rest of society to completely shut down is just not needed, IMHO.

EZ Nova 03-16-2020 01:32 AM

Well the news here in Ontario is due to limited test kits, those who seem not infected and more apt to recover will NOT be tested.

So I'm wondering with Lee replys IF the USA can or will handle this as well as Chinese? For Trump to succeed thus is imperative for re-election. if he can do better then China in dealing with this, he is done in the Whitehouse I think. The USA has to get a handle on this and defeat this outbreak ASAP.

I also wonder WHY everything is closing down to roughly April 6th???


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