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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VintageMusclecar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm planning on going--Doug Perry's taking his green monster out and called me this morning to see if I could meet him there. I won't be taking the Chevelle today--no break-in/de-bug time on the clutch yet and the Suburban's in the shop with rear brake issues (again--long story there).
You taking your car out?</div></div> Nope. Just going to watch as well. See you there! |
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Eric, that sucks you're having such an issue with these clutches. I've ran a couple clutch cars years ago, and funny, we just sorta picked and choose parts to make it work! When my '69 Nova was running mid 10's with either the 396 or 427, they both went through a Ram long style with a ram 3 pad with an (I know, stupid , but that's what we used) GM stock flywheel. Now my full weight car with slicks and enough jam to run 10.40's and didn't hurt the clutch in either case. Now a buddy of mine set the air-gap first time out, then again about 50 miles later, but that was it. It was a PITA with the 3 pad and the little hole in the bottom of the lakewood bell.
Sorry, if I had read this, I would have tried to put you onto a fairly reliable Ram set-up a ton of people use with great success, and not that pricey either. It a Ram 470/471 CW long style plate with there sintered iron disc. I think the pair are about $600.00. I know some have had some issue with the counterweight arms and have gotten parts from Cale Aronson at Black Magic Clutches with GREAT success. I would highly recommend calling Cale at 816-390-0852 and he WILL get you in the right direction. John |
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I'm already making arrangements to swap the car to a 400 Turbo, waiting for confirmation from a friend that he has a suitable core available.
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[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif[/img] Now you're talkin' ... so much easier on the drivetrain. The three pedal troops may have a SF but it's your ride ... TAZ
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I'd love nothing more than to keep the stick in the car.
Simply put--with the way this thing's eating driveline parts, I can't afford to keep the stick in it--at least not with this engine in the car. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif[/img] When I'm done testing with this 496, I'm planning to build a mild 396 for the car and return it to true driver status--it will go back to a 4-speed then. I already have 2-3 people interested in the Legend 5 speed over on the Chevelle site. |
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I would also be interested in the Legend trans...
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Tony, give me a call when you have a minute?
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Will do
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Got a little more seat time with the new clutch today, getting better acclimated to it. Everything seems to be functioning OK.
Going to Kil-Kare tomorrow to try this again. |
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Eric, I hope someone has told you to never slip clutches that have solid metallic pucks on them. It's a recipe for sure death to the clutch. Had a friend that started using that style clutch back in 1968 or so and it was a learning experience. The local clutch builder said it would hold all the power we could put to it. He neglected to warn about trying to drive it like an everyday street car. We finally learned from a truck driver that was experienced with that type of friction material, that the clutch was meant to be either fully engaged or fully disengaged. After we found that out, clutches lasted nearly the full season.
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I've also heard this but wanted to hold comment as maybe something newer has come along -- this setup can be a real pain in the south end on a street machine ... TAZ [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif[/img]
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I think it'll be all right for the time being. I did have to adjust my driving style a little and utilize more of a quick slip just off-idle in 1st, but now there's minimal chatter on take-off.
Reverse is another story however...oof... No worse than having to move a "race car" around in the pits/lanes, but definitely not ideal for the street. Let's just pray nothing else breaks or otherwise goes awry this time and I can finally get some clean passes on the car. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/crazy.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif[/img] |
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Hang in there Eric and good luck at the strip ... TAZ [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]
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Good luck tonight!
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Anyone want to buy a clutch eating `67 Chevelle???--<span style="font-size: 23pt"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">CHEAP!!</span></span></span> [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif[/img]
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You have got to be kidding me -- the Chevelle ate another one? Next step -- Glide or TH400 ... TAZ
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Oh my:-(
Ryan |
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I am so sick of this Goddamned car right now I can't see straight.
If someone stuck a fistfull of cash in my hand it'd be gone tomorrow. |
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I feel your pain.....been there done that.....but I never sold my car.....I still have it, thank goodness.
You need a break.....time to chill and regroup. Dan |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Postsedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I feel your pain.....been there done that.....but I never sold my car.....I still have it, thank goodness.
You need a break.....time to chill and regroup. Dan</div></div> X2 [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif[/img] |
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Reminds me of the Camaro. You're on top of Everest, and it comes and kicks you down by breaking yet another thing. Hang in there, Eric. Eventually, you'll find a trans that works, and eventually you'll run out of things to replace.
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The trans isn't the problem, it's been trouble-free save for now having a wasted tailshaft seal--which I'm sure is due in no part to having the driveshaft in & out a dozen times.
The problem is the power and the weight--plus the fact that the car usually dead hooks. It's looking more & more like I'm going to have to go to some sort of a twin disc set-up...which is just that much more $$$ that I can't spare right now. On top of that, this clutch fiasco has severely screwed my hopes & plans to get a few other projects wrapped up before the end of the year. Manual transmissions are undeniably cool, but OMG are they one colossal friggin' pain in the ass--specifically, right around the wallet region. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/thumbsdown.gif[/img] |
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Any updates Eric? Did you swap to an automatic?
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Haven't touched the car since the last time it was out save for charging the battery once so I could pull it outside. Decided against going automatic, but the car's probably not going to make it out this year at this point. Actually been considering selling it.
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Don't you dare! That and Rachel are the two things that keep you sane! ;)
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Against my better judgement, today I broke down and pulled the trigger on another clutch set-up--a McLeod RXT which is a dual disc system with ceramic pucs.
McLeod rates this unit up to 1,000 HP. With any luck I'll have it in the car within the next couple of weeks. Fingers crossed. |
Yeah!!
Did that dual-disc setup on the Performance Years board not work out? Seemed like a great deal. |
It had the wrong spline discs, would've cost too much to sort it out.
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RXT clutch is in. All the gory details of the install are on my FB page.
Test drive report soon. |
Best wishes Eric!!
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The first test drive is in the bag--just a brief jaunt around the neighborhood, stayed close to home "just in case", but so far, so good.
The pedal effort is very comfortable, and as far as "driveability", I can already state that this is by far the most street-friendly clutch I've had in the car so far. Zero chatter, even in reverse, very easy to--for lack of better term--ride, not like the previous race clutches which were (to varying degrees) more like an "on/off' switch. I didn't lean on it at all, so as far as holding power goes, the verdict's still out on that. However, should this clutch perform as advertised, I will officially consider myself a McLeod convert. More soon--weather permitting. |
Keep your fingers crossed Eric -- sounds like you finally hit the right combination ... Craig :beers:
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Sounds awesome Eric. I hope it will handle the power.
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It holds. :naughty: :burnout: :3gears: :biggthumpup: |
Yee haw!!!
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Congratulations!
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This clutch definitely hits harder than its predecessors.
Gonn'a have to watch it pounding it on the shifts--that poor 12 bolt's already hacked out parts once. :ooo: |
Pretty sure the Legend trans in the Chevelle is on it's way out. It's making some very unhappy noises and there's a new driveline vibration that definitely isn't engine related. Not sure where I'm going to go from here.
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