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njsteve 10-03-2008 12:27 AM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
Isn't that a sign of the Apocalypse? - your car getting finished before mine? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

KevinW 10-03-2008 02:34 AM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
Hah! But it is not the SS that I had for 25+ years, its the other one I 've have for 8 (with 3 years in the body shop!) https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif The cars name is Jinx because of all the problems it had and caused.

http://www.fototime.com/2DE194F8747A3E1/standard.jpg

njsteve 10-03-2008 02:38 AM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
NICE!

scuncio 10-04-2008 06:42 PM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
Steve, good call on mocking up the window trim before paint. Have seen so many otherwise awesome cars with weird gaps/interferenes between the window trim and body.

StriperSS 10-04-2008 06:52 PM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
Attention to detail is what separates the awesome, from the run-of-the-mill restorations! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

njsteve 10-04-2008 09:57 PM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
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Steve, good call on mocking up the window trim before paint. Have seen so many otherwise awesome cars with weird gaps/interferenes between the window trim and body.

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Yeah, maybe one of these years I'll be able to trial fit my own body behind the steering wheel to see if it still fits. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

njsteve 12-13-2008 11:22 PM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
Some progress from this week. The full body is in primer. He spent some more time finishing the rear wheel well edges recently, back to their original bad, wrinkly, spot-welded finish. I wasn't too happy with the initial way they looked - they were too perfect.

Now the car has to sit a few days to cure and then more block sanding and then sealing and paint (hopefully, soon).

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i30/nk15268a/169.jpg

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mockingbird812 12-14-2008 12:42 AM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/ooo.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif Way to go Mac!

firstgenaddict 12-14-2008 05:55 AM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
Once she's in paint she will go much quicker... body work takes the time it takes...

mc25t190 12-16-2008 04:44 AM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
Boy am i glad my 70 TA Ram Air IV is done. The most expensive resto i have ever done. So many 1 year only parts you wouldn't believe. On top of that a California car, only 24 made with Ca. emissions, imagine finding those parts, Hard and costly!

njsteve 12-16-2008 03:49 PM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
1972 is a close second for oddball parts. Try and find a points (non-unitized electronic) distributor for a 1972. The vast majority of 72 455HO's came with the unitized ignition. Luckily (or unluckily) mine originally came with the 1112126 points distributor. Unfortunately, I had to search for three years to find one.

The same search occurred for the 7042273 carb. The 4-speed, 72 455HO carb is one of the rarest pieces to hunt down.

I would imagine that if I had not done everything myself except for the body, the restoration costs would be well into the six figure zone.

BARN FIND 12-27-2008 05:01 PM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
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A few progress shots of the rear window filler panel getting massaged into place. It's kind of a tricky piece since it forms the bottom of the rear window channel. It's a big water leaker if you get it wrong. It's also impossible to remove without cracking the rear window glass once the glass is installed.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i30/nk15268a/114.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i30/nk15268a/113.jpg

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I have been mulling over this statement ever since you posted it 3 months ago, do you mean that your rear window sits on top of the small flange that sticks out of the filler panel that covers the trunk hinge springs?

njsteve 12-28-2008 12:56 AM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
There is a flanged area that the rear window sits upon (factory black painted area in photos below). The area where the rear quarters mate up to the rear bulkhead leaves a 1/8" drop that is factory filled with dum-dum sealant. (the area just to the right of the screw hole in the photo below)

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...8/P7170015.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...P7170002-1.jpg


The filler panel mates up to the edge of that flange and was installed prior to the window being installed so it is usually stuck in place by the oozed out window butyl sealant. The upper right slotted area is where the screw goes.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...8/S7002702.jpg

BARN FIND 12-28-2008 03:49 AM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
So it should look like this with the window in (minus the rust!)

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...ORATION023.jpg

njsteve 12-28-2008 05:47 AM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
Yup. Looks like your back window has been replaced before by the look of the sealer. I would recommend pulling out the the window and seeing what surprises await you.

BARN FIND 12-28-2008 04:58 PM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
LOL...that is a picture from the disassembly, it is out along with most of the rest of the car (see picture in my signature) I resigned myself before I started this process that it would be my own fault if anything surprised me on a car that was driven for almost 20 years in the rust belt. Most of the surprises have come from past body repairs that were not welded as solidly as I would like.

njsteve 01-14-2009 01:01 AM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
Went to the shop today to check on progress. Still in the final stages of blocksanding. Hopefully in final primer next week...

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/nk15268/174.jpg

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njsteve 01-14-2009 01:03 AM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
Cleaning up the dash panel area:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/nk15268/173.jpg

njsteve 01-14-2009 01:07 AM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
Working on the polyethylene valance. It takes some special primer/paint processes to get it to stick to the polyethylene. The left and right edges need some attention to get them to match to the contours of the front fender bottom.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/nk15268/177.jpg

njsteve 02-24-2009 04:12 AM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
Still grey, but slowly progressing along.

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/r...15268b/180.jpg

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njsteve 03-11-2009 03:25 AM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
Went out to the shop today to bring over the upper door stainless trim so he could drill the screw holes for the clips. Better to do it before the paint goes on.

They have been working on the scoops and stuff. Here are some step by step photos on the fiberglass items. The fender scoop had a crack that needed some attention and the shaker had stress cracks around all the rivet holes as well as a cracked edge.

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/r...15268b/197.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/r...15268b/198.jpg

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njsteve 03-11-2009 03:30 AM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
The shaker scoop:

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/r...15268b/205.jpg

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njsteve 03-11-2009 03:44 AM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
Some interesting work on the polyethylene valance.

They came up with an ingenous fixture to hold it in place so they could do the body work...they turned the nose/bumper upside down and clamped it to it. Now why the heck didn't I think of that. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif
DOH!

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/r...15268b/211.jpg

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http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/r...15268b/215.jpg


And here is the magic stuff they found to do the filler work. They actually found a flexible epoxy filler that works on polyethylene. The stuff was recommended for ATV fenders (which are made of polyethylene) It's called DYNATRON 660 and is actually made by the Bondo Company. It sticks to the valance material very well and feathers out when sanded. They were able to build up the sides to match the fender/bumper contours. That will also strengthen the sides of the valance immeasurably since that is the thinnest and most fragile part of the plastic valance.

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/r...15268b/216.jpg

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PLATINUM6BBL 03-23-2009 04:09 PM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
It's taken me a few days to read through this but I can see it was worth it https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif AWESOME work you've done. Learned a lot that i can apply to the Runner. It was a Texas car and I can see that the safe rust remover can be a big help under it. Can't wait to see it in final form. My neighbor has a '71 455HO 4spd in white/blue and this reminds me of it.

Lon

njsteve 03-24-2009 04:16 AM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
Thanks for the moral support. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Maybe one of these years she'll be back on the road. Hopefully before I give up on the whole crazy endeavor. I'm getting somewhat disillusioned at this point with the amount of $$,$$$ I have into it.

But, hey, if that money had been in the stock market it would be worth $$$ now. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

njsteve 05-20-2009 01:49 AM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
She's in the paint booth now. Some final finishing touches before cleaning and masking. Hopefully it will be white just in time for Memorial Day.

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/r...15268b/236.jpg

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njsteve 05-20-2009 01:54 AM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
Final detailing on the lower quarter seam.

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/r...15268b/223.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/r...15268b/234.jpg

Some minor repairs to the dash edges. This is the spot where the water always collects on second gen F-bodies. The driver's side just had some minor pitting, while the passenger side had a small 1" square soft section that needed to be repaired.

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/r...15268b/231.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/r...15268b/229.jpg

BJCHEV396 05-21-2009 12:38 AM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
Good reading and great pics.Thanks for sharing. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Jonesy 05-27-2009 06:55 PM

Re: 72 T/A progess
 
Okay, is it white yet?? Great thread!!

njsteve 05-28-2009 12:58 AM

It's white, finally
 
Here you go, hot off the USB cable:

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/r...15268b/252.jpg

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mockingbird812 05-28-2009 01:00 AM

Re: It's white, finally
 
Now your talkin'. Congrats Mac! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

x Baldwin Motion 05-28-2009 05:28 AM

Re: It's white, finally
 
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gifgreat to see that, I 've gotten very old during this thread https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gif

njsteve 05-28-2009 05:56 AM

Re: It's white, finally
 
Tell me about it. My daughter was in second grade when she helped me rebuild the engine. She enters senior high this Fall.

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/r...nchengine1.jpg

firstgenaddict 05-28-2009 06:11 AM

Re: It's white, finally
 
It seems like just yesterday you were doing the subframe and A-arms... unreal!

kwhizz 05-28-2009 07:20 AM

Re: It's white, finally
 
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif


Ken https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...BruceRocks.gif

StriperSS 05-28-2009 07:33 AM

Re: It's white, finally
 
[ QUOTE ]
Tell me about it. My daughter was in second grade when she helped me rebuild the engine. She enters senior high this Fall.

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/r...nchengine1.jpg

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That's one way to keep the miles down! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Can't wait to see it come together!

njsteve 05-30-2009 12:08 AM

Re: It's white, finally
 
Stopped by the shop today. The paint is still curing. He is waiting til Monday to start the 1000 grit sanding, and then spray the final white coats on it. Then, some more cure time and color sand/polishing.

The lower body lines came out very well. The line runs from the front fender all the way to the rear and is a very subtle scalloped body line that usually gets lost in the bodywork process and becomes a slab sided look.

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/r...15268b/263.jpg

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njsteve 05-30-2009 12:08 AM

Re: It's white, finally
 
Top rear view:

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/r...15268b/259.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/r...15268b/260.jpg

SuperNovaSS 05-30-2009 01:27 AM

Re: It's white, finally
 
1000 grit then more paint? I've never used that technique myself but I'm by no means an expert. I am always leary painting over any scratch finer than 600 grit, even on fresh paint.


Jason

Jeff H 05-30-2009 01:38 AM

Re: It's white, finally
 
Looking good, almost there! Now get that thing out of my car's way! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif I feel a batch of Hugger Orange being mixed up soon! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif


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