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Drew Papsun 04-08-2015 02:53 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scuncio</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just received the docs for my '68 Z. Zone 44, dealer code 201, dealer name unknown. Does anyone know what dealer this is? </div></div>

Hello Scuncio,
I do not know the dealers name.
I call tell you that zone 44 are Chevrolet dealers in the state of Michigan.
The dealer number 201 the name will start with the letter &quot; H &quot;.
Regards,
Drew Papsun

black69 04-14-2015 07:25 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
Anyone ever consider asking the NCRS to do a free (or reduced cost) check of where the unknown Yenko cars came from (for the Yenko registry)? I was checking the VIN lists, and had the thought, maybe the lists could be updated with the dealer info now through help from the NCRS.


TAR6569 04-14-2015 07:36 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
All the dealer docs for the pilot 67 Camaros #'s 1-49 have been done.

http://www.pilotcarregistry.com/

William 04-14-2015 07:38 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
All Canonsburg Yenkos were delivered to Yenko Chevrolet. Yenko Sportscars Inc distributed the cars to their dealer network. NCRS would not have that information.

black69 04-14-2015 08:52 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
Well that makes it easy [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

scuncio 04-27-2015 06:04 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Drew Papsun</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scuncio</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just received the docs for my '68 Z. Zone 44, dealer code 201, dealer name unknown. Does anyone know what dealer this is? </div></div>

Hello Scuncio,
I do not know the dealers name.
I call tell you that zone 44 are Chevrolet dealers in the state of Michigan.
The dealer number 201 the name will start with the letter &quot; H &quot;.
Regards,
Drew Papsun </div></div>

Drew, that's great information. I did not realize there was any kind of alphabetical order. I did discover that dealer code 198 was Hamilton Chevrolet. I suppose 201 could have been Harry May Chevrolet? I'll keep looking....

TAR6569 04-28-2015 12:31 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
Yes, alphabetical and would be by the last name if that was in their name. So with Harry May, it would be sorted by May.

my69rat 04-28-2015 10:18 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
So you find out the zone and the dealer code. Then you have to find out where the dealer is and the name of the dealer. If the dealer is out of business you still have nothing. If they were still in business I would say there not going to have any info from way back when. The dealer my car was bought didn't have any info long gone they said. I just don't see the big deal in this. If I am wrong tell me I am sure someone will hehe.

Drew Papsun 04-29-2015 12:04 AM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scuncio</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Drew Papsun</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scuncio</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just received the docs for my '68 Z. Zone 44, dealer code 201, dealer name unknown. Does anyone know what dealer this is? </div></div>

Hello Scuncio,
I do not know the dealers name.
I call tell you that zone 44 are Chevrolet dealers in the state of Michigan.
The dealer number 201 the name will start with the letter &quot; H &quot;.
Regards,
Drew Papsun </div></div>

Drew, that's great information. I did not realize there was any kind of alphabetical order. I did discover that dealer code 198 was Hamilton Chevrolet. I suppose 201 could have been Harry May Chevrolet? I'll keep looking.... </div></div>

Hello Scuncio,
Harry May Chevrolet - Cadillac, INC.
Monroe, MI
Zone # 44
Deaker # 312
We still need to keep looking for # 201.
Regards,
Drew Papsun

scuncio 04-29-2015 12:24 AM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
Makes sense, if they are sorted by the last name. The search continues!

Thanks,
Tony

Nasblu 06-02-2015 12:46 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
Received shipping report for a 1966 427 Corvette and it listed it as Zone 0 Dealer 568. It then goes on to say &quot;GM Division MI&quot; I proceeded to look up Zone 0 Dealer 568 on the NCRS Dealer Code Data section and it listed that as being CPC Tonawanda Engine Plant. Was the car a GM executive car at the Tonawanda Plant in 1966 or was the car a test car at the Tonawanda Plant in 1966? Being that the car wasn't produced until January of 1966 I would think that it would be late in the model year to be a test car? Any members here work at the Tonawanda Engine plant in 1966 or know of anyone who worked at the Tonawanda Engine plant in 1966 that may remember a 1966 Corvette 427 Convertible Silver Pearl/black interior.

TAR6569 06-02-2015 12:56 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
Might have been an employee working there who ordered it?

X77Z28MP 06-03-2015 01:01 AM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
Just got my paperwork back from NCRS dealer code 9 zone 39 ed black dealership Just to let everyone know last year I sent in my 50 for info on my car, A month later I got a letter saying no info on my car. That realy put a damper on my search I gave up. Some of you that received the same letter you might want to resubmit your VIN again maybe they rushed my number without realy looking carefully, it wont cost anything if they don't find your car. GOOD LUCK ON YOUR SEARCH

camaromb 06-03-2015 03:39 AM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
My 70 Trans Am show up on The PHS invoice as selling from a Tenn. dealership but it sold new from a dealership in Ft. Meyers Florida. I'm sure many cars never saw their selling dealership noted on manufacturers records.

fsc66 10-20-2017 12:44 PM

Dealers"
 
Dave, did you get the info on each of the 4 dealers already or still looking?

Paul

fsc66 10-20-2017 12:48 PM

Dealer
 
Marlin:
Did you get the info on your 2 dealers?

Paul

Aldfaa 11-09-2017 12:49 AM

Got my NCRS report back the other day on my 1970 Chevelle. Sold out of Burt Chevrolet of Englewood Co. I have talked to all of the previous owners except the original owner. The second owner bought it in 1972 and brought it to Kansas where it has been ever since.

TAR6569 11-10-2017 05:28 PM

Burt sold out to John Elway in the last few years. I found a build sheet from a 70 wagon up here that was a courtesy delivery from Burt to a dealer in MA

fsc66 12-02-2017 11:47 AM

Dealer info
 
Just putting this out there again. If you have dealer zone and codes with no corresponding dealer name or information, let me know and I will see if I have any information in my database.

Paul

THNDER 12-04-2017 04:36 AM

1972 ss396 camaro
 
Got my letter this week.

Dealer code52

Zone 0

Delco Division
Dayton Ohio

Any help on this please?

Thanks Mike

fsc66 12-04-2017 12:21 PM

Delco
 
Same info I have:
00 052 DELCO MORAINE DIV Delco Moraine Div P O BOX 184 DAYTON Ohio


Paul

THNDER 12-04-2017 03:39 PM

Employee car perhaps?

fsc66 07-05-2018 05:07 AM

Dealer
 
Are you still looking for this dealer?

Paul

Quote:

Originally Posted by RatZ (Post 1238379)
Hello all. I am fairly new to this group and have an inquiry.

I just received my NCRS papers for my 71 Z28. It gives me the zone number as 18 which is Des Moines, IA. It also states that the official production date was 05/05/1972 and the dealer code is 491. It then states &quot;Unfortunately the GM listing does not have a name for this dealer.&quot;

Does anyone know what deal ship this is or where I can get the info using this code? Thanks for any help you can offer.


rsinor 07-05-2018 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THNDER (Post 1377935)
Employee car perhaps?

My guess would be executive car, billed to Delco Moraine. employee cars usually went through a dealer even though there may have been an employee discount. This car went to Delco Moraine for a reason, if not as a test or development then probably for a executive.

ban617 07-07-2018 05:07 PM

Then they could have went to Lang’s Chevrolet, White Allen Chevrolet, Frank Z Chevrolet,I’m not for sure if there were any others

ban617 07-07-2018 05:11 PM

Voss Chevrolet, McCluskey Chevrolet

Tommy 07-12-2018 09:38 PM

I received my NCRS letter today on the 1968 Camaro I recently purchased.

Dealer Code 120 in zone 14

City Chevrolet, Baltimore, Maryland.

Very Cool! It must have headed South a long time ago, It was titled in Mississippi until recently.

Tommy

Lynn 07-12-2018 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fsc66 (Post 1377561)
Just putting this out there again. If you have dealer zone and codes with no corresponding dealer name or information, let me know and I will see if I have any information in my database.

Paul

Still have not found dealer 833 in zone 23 (Oklahoma).

Everyone says it should start with an "S" but we have never nailed it down.

Big Block Bill 01-22-2019 01:43 PM

NCRS Historical Document Services
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TAR6569 (Post 1220432)
if this latest addition to the service ends up being a success, will you expand it to the fullsize cars?

It's been close to 5 years since this was posted so I had to ask, has the NCRS found anything on full size Chevrolet's out of the St Louis plant yet or will they not support the full size cars?

Bill

BCreekDave 01-22-2019 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ban617 (Post 1407220)
Then they could have went to Lang’s Chevrolet, White Allen Chevrolet, Frank Z Chevrolet,I’m not for sure if there were any others

Frank Z wasn't around until ~1972. Ray Bryant was the dealer on Brown Street that Frank bought out in 72-73 timeframe.

A sale to a GM division is usually a car for the executive pool and these sometimes are purposed for engineering testing or as a "company car" for travel between divisions etc. After about 6 months they were usually posted on bulletin boards or in the division newsletter for sale to employees. They couldn't be sold as new but did have the remainder of the new car warranty. My folks got a few cars this way. Never heard of any hi-po cars. Mostly high-line Caddies or Buicks but also many plain janes.

69 L88 01-27-2019 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew Papsun (Post 1219497)
This is an update for the Camaro, Chevelle, and Nova cars.


1965 through 1972 for Camaro, Chevelle
https://www.chevymuscledocs.com/

Historical Document Services
1965-1972
BEGINS MAY 1

National Corvette Restorers Society is pleased to announce that we can now provide certain information for model years 1965 through 1972 for Camaro, Chevelle and Nova through the efforts of the NCRS and permission granted by General Motors. We believe our fellow hobbyists and car clubs have desired this information since it became available for Corvettes several years ago.

The information consists of the dealer code, dealer name, dealer location and the production date the car was produced. The good news is this may allow you to find the original dealer where your Chevrolet Camaro, Chevelle or Nova was shipped and possibly open the door to finding more information about your Chevrolet.

A Camaro, Chevelle or Nova Shipping Data Report can be ordered only online. Membership in NCRS is not required. The fee will be $50 payable by credit card or PayPal. You will receive via USPS a letter with the information which includes the NCRS official seal. In limited cases the dealer code is not available or readable and in this case a full refund will be made.

www.chevymuscledocs.com.

Regards,
Drew Papsun

Thanks drew...…

mssl72 01-30-2019 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Block Bill (Post 1431989)
It's been close to 5 years since this was posted so I had to ask, has the NCRS found anything on full size Chevrolet's out of the St Louis plant yet or will they not support the full size cars?

Bill

I had emailed last year and the response was basically "Sorry, no full size". I don't think there are any plans to go big car.

Igosplut 01-30-2019 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCreekDave (Post 1432043)
Frank Z wasn't around until ~1972. Ray Bryant was the dealer on Brown Street that Frank bought out in 72-73 timeframe.

A sale to a GM division is usually a car for the executive pool and these sometimes are purposed for engineering testing or as a "company car" for travel between divisions etc. After about 6 months they were usually posted on bulletin boards or in the division newsletter for sale to employees. They couldn't be sold as new but did have the remainder of the new car warranty. My folks got a few cars this way. Never heard of any hi-po cars. Mostly high-line Caddies or Buicks but also many plain janes.

Friend of mine got a 69 Z like that from a GM guy named Jim Clark. They had put an LS6 in it, and he got the 302 with it also.

SMS 02-01-2019 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCreekDave (Post 1432043)
Frank Z wasn't around until ~1972. Ray Bryant was the dealer on Brown Street that Frank bought out in 72-73 timeframe.

A sale to a GM division is usually a car for the executive pool and these sometimes are purposed for engineering testing or as a "company car" for travel between divisions etc. After about 6 months they were usually posted on bulletin boards or in the division newsletter for sale to employees. They couldn't be sold as new but did have the remainder of the new car warranty. My folks got a few cars this way. Never heard of any hi-po cars. Mostly high-line Caddies or Buicks but also many plain janes.



My Dad worked for a GM affiliate, Allison Transmission in Indy and this Camaro was an executive car, that he purchased after its 6 mo or so cycle in the pool. It was seriously loaded.


https://i.imgur.com/4uS1XG3.jpg

SMS 02-01-2019 01:57 PM

Anyone by chance have a dealer name for Zone 8 Dealer code 546?


In Georgia I believe. NCRS does not have the dealer name but did have this 546 code for my 69 Chevelle 300 SS. Dealer #545 was River Chevrolet so I'm probably looking for an old dealer name starting with an R in Ga or SC.






https://i.imgur.com/obNOFo2.jpg

fsc66 02-03-2019 09:41 PM

Dealer
 
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Lynn:
See what you can find out about Seltzer Chevrolet. Their location; "Yukon is part of zone 23 and I don't have a dealer number for them and they fit into the dealer number you are looking for. This is a Dec 69' ad. I see ads from 68' - 71'.
Paul

chevyman0429 02-03-2019 10:53 PM

Just sent in for the ncrs reports on both my 69 chevelles! Kinda excited as I have no real history on either cars! I was told my 300 hardtop raced here in Michigan for a while but came up from the south!

Lynn 02-04-2019 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fsc66 (Post 1433645)
Lynn:
See what you can find out about Seltzer Chevrolet. Their location; "Yukon is part of zone 23 and I don't have a dealer number for them and they fit into the dealer number you are looking for. This is a Dec 69' ad. I see ads from 68' - 71'.
Paul

Thanks Paul. I have several old Seltzer Chevy ads. I worked right down the street from them. My first Z (Silver w/ black stripes) came from there. Had a dealer installed cross ram before I got it. POP was in the glove box, but I pitched it as being "useless". Just as well. The car ended up with a 427 L72 engine, wrapped around a telephone pole, and was parted out and crushed.

I don't know if it would help, but Seltzer became Alan Merril Chevrolet in late 71, I believe. I tried to find a dealer number for them but never did.

I know Seltzer sold a ZL1, I think car #61. I thought the one they sold was white, but CRG shows it as fathom green. I guess I could run the NCRS on that car and see if it is the same dealer code.

firstgenaddict 02-04-2019 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SMS (Post 1433353)
My Dad worked for a GM affiliate, Allison Transmission in Indy and this Camaro was an executive car, that he purchased after its 6 mo or so cycle in the pool. It was seriously loaded.


https://i.imgur.com/4uS1XG3.jpg

Check out the Toranado... nice! Wern't those front wheel drive with the 455?

The RED RED 67 RS/SS 350 is nothing to sneeze at, I would take it over the T-nado any day...
How often does one see a RED RED first gen F BODY Convertible decked out like that... looks like it has redlines as well?!

SMS 02-04-2019 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firstgenaddict (Post 1433690)
Check out the Toranado... nice! Wern't those front wheel drive with the 455?

The RED RED 67 RS/SS 350 is nothing to sneeze at, I would take it over the T-nado any day...
How often does one see a RED RED first gen F BODY Convertible decked out like that... looks like it has redlines as well?!


The Tornado was a 455 FWD. Dad bought new in 66.


Mom's Camaro was 350/295. Powerglide, Posi 10 bolt, PDB, red lines, AC, tilt, cruise, PW, deluxe red, luggage rack, fold down back seat, am/fm, etc... plus all the stuff you can see.


Really a great car. I learned about cars working on it as a kid with dad, valve job and stuff. Wreck's Incorporated, a giant junk yard in Indy called about a week after we sold it in 1975 to say "we have your car". The guy who bought it totaled it before he even transferred the title.


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