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Blue on pushrods https://www.yenko.net/attachments/386272-tn_P1010788.JPG
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Does John know if they used what looks like #2 Permatex during assembly ? It looks like it on head bolts and screw in studs ? They used guide plates in 70? https://www.yenko.net/attachments/386274-tn_P1010783.JPG
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upper radiator hose #'s https://www.yenko.net/attachments/386276-tn_P1010805.JPG
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This front bracket almost looks like it has the remains of some grey paint near the top but at the bottom is bare steel. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/386277-tn_P1010809.JPG
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negative bat cable ground wire bolt. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/386278-tn_P1010812.JPG
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------Charlie,,,Were the four valve-cover bolts exactly the same length???.........Bill S
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[ QUOTE ] . https://www.yenko.net/attachments/385758-tn_039.JPG [/ QUOTE ] I may be insane but... Is that a remnant of a wax blob...indicating where the weight went? [/ QUOTE ] Actually, grease paint, but yes, that is the mark that was determined to place the wheel weight. I work in the paint shop at the Ford KC plant as a supplier. A few years back, we had some warranty issues with yellow spot on units. Started to do some backtracking and the grease paint (using yellow titanium dioxide) was being applied too heavy and was flinging off the wheels as it was going thought its 'road test'. The paint, although cured, was still fresh and getting stained. We saw staining from storage additives from gasoline too. I saw a question about the sequence number... I heard someone tell it a while back and I know it holds true today. When we have a issue with a unit in the plant, we always refer to it by the 4 digit sequence number. Mind you, there are 7 digits in the sequence, but we only use 4 because a unit a sequence number 10000 old should not be in the plant!! i.e.-- 204 8647 would be yelled out as sequence # 8647. |
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Valve cover bolts and my ugly fingers. Two have defined rings around the M and two don't. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/386267-tn_P1010803.JPG [/ QUOTE ] the judges are going to really hit you for the points deductions with details like that ... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif |
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Different bolts
When disassembling various Oldsmobiles over the years (all Lansing Built) I notice a left side/right side difference on lots of fastners. The area I remember was the various componets under the dash,such as wirw harnesses and ducting. Left side held in place with Phillips Screws and right side with hexhead screws.As a lot of components were installed by different groups and fastners came from different suppliers you will see inconsistancy in bolt types.
As far as the build sheets are concerned, the one in the seat was likely put there by upholstery side of Fischer Body. I have notied them left the the back of left side bucket seats on 70-72 A bodies,depending on plant,some were hogged in and others were loose. Great job with the photos and documentation. This tread is getting as long as "Street scenes" and "Rotting Muscle". Keep em coming. Paul |
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pulled right front off today. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/386434-tn_001.JPG
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the min thickness is 965 and cast into the rotor but they also hand stamped it into it. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif https://www.yenko.net/attachments/386436-tn_005.JPG
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paceme, Jim R also follows the ORIGINAL forum at www.nastyz28.com. I'm thinking he isn't a big fan of the trailer queen cars, Carlisle judging, and anal judges like me. Judged shows and judged cars arent for everybody.......
FYI, Jim R recently did a personal favor for me in Phoenix. I'm publically acknowledging him, as I do appreciate his act of friendship..... |
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Yes the dill cap is still stuck to the subframe. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/386442-tn_014.JPG
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Yes there is still undercoating under the nose of the car and no Chuck I will not remove it.https://www.yenko.net/attachments/386444-tn_020.JPG https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif
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wiper trans bolts https://www.yenko.net/attachments/386446-tn_025.JPG
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Wonderful documentation Charley. Thanks! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif
P.S. Not sure the fucia is your color though https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif . What lipstick are you wearing? |
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[ QUOTE ] Valve cover bolts and my ugly fingers. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/386267-tn_P1010803.JPG [/ QUOTE ] the judges are going to really hit you for the points deductions with details like that ... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif [/ QUOTE ] Points will only be deducted for ugly fingers and a manicure. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/photos/data/500/charlies_nails.jpg [/ QUOTE ] LMAO, I almost fell off my chair https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...arleySucks.gif |
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[ QUOTE ] Valve cover bolts and my ugly fingers. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/386267-tn_P1010803.JPG [/ QUOTE ] the judges are going to really hit you for the points deductions with details like that ... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif [/ QUOTE ] Points will only be deducted for ugly fingers and a manicure. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/photos/data/500/charlies_nails.jpg [/ QUOTE ] So I guess that would warrant a partial deduction; fingers are still ugly. |
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. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/386445-tn_023.JPG [/ QUOTE ] Hey, is that a partial fingerprint on the caulking in the left hand data plate rivet? I think there are enough points of comparison that we can get a match to some UAW member from the early 1970's. Of course, that is in the completely unlikely event that he had a criminal record. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Valve cover bolts and my ugly fingers. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/386267-tn_P1010803.JPG [/ QUOTE ] the judges are going to really hit you for the points deductions with details like that ... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif [/ QUOTE ] Points will only be deducted for ugly fingers and a manicure. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/photos/data/500/charlies_nails.jpg [/ QUOTE ] So I guess that would warrant a partial deduction; fingers are still ugly. [/ QUOTE ] I think Charlie needs to invest in some of this stuff.... On the Job hand cream Putting paint on those nails is like putting lipstick on a pig!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif |
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-------I can see it now!!! Hundreds if not thousands of 1970 Camaro owners buying an extra dill cap to stick to their frame rail in an attempt to make their restorations "correct"..........Bill S
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-------I can see it now!!! Hundreds if not thousands of 1970 Camaro owners buying an extra dill cap to stick to their frame rail in an attempt to make their restorations "correct"..........Bill S [/ QUOTE ] but 1st they have to spray tar all over the underside of their cars ... restoration costs plummet because no one has to spend $$$ to plate and finish the underside of the car, street repair crews & roofing contractors are mugged for their tar applicators, a black market (get it?) arises and the correct "Dill" caps are reproduced in China and sold as NOS on ebay pictured next to a "real" GM box but the ad says you can't have the box by a certain seller ... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif |
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paceme, Jim R also follows the ORIGINAL forum at www.nastyz28.com. I'm thinking he isn't a big fan of the trailer queen cars, Carlisle judging, and anal judges like me. Judged shows and judged cars arent for everybody....... FYI, Jim R recently did a personal favor for me in Phoenix. I'm publically acknowledging him, as I do appreciate his act of friendship..... [/ QUOTE ] Chuck, I enjoy the cars that have been taken to "anal" levels and certainly appreciate those, yourself included, that actually TRY to document & judge "the way they were". "Trailer queens" are beautiful works of art. I respect and painfully appreciate the sacrifice that has occurred to get them to those levels. I appreciate them as much as the time capsules that are not "perfect" and as much as the barn finds that have been used to within an ounce of their life, they all are exciting to look at and read about. "Making light" of the way that the GM line workers assembled cars in hap hazard methods 30+ years ago is a release from the sometimes all too serious outlook we all are guilty of with this old car passion. No disrespect is meant to those that have those beautiful cars, we ALL enjoy them. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif |
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Rotated the engine with torque wrench set at 78lbs. Then tapped starter and it does move. Went maybe 1/2 turn total. Fan belt # https://www.yenko.net/attachments/386671-tn_004.JPG
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One washer hose is routed under # 3 plug wire. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif https://www.yenko.net/attachments/386673-tn_013.JPG
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The dist hold down bracket and the bolt both look like they have silver paint on them. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/386674-tn_016.JPG
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