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napa68 11-01-2023 06:36 PM

I saw your video over on Instagram. Did you ever get to the shock tuning? Still looks like it's bouncing on the leave.

I'd think for as lean as you are, added to the 60' times as they are.......you may have another second in the car!

Chuck_Burg 11-01-2023 06:54 PM

I set them where I thought would be a baseline. Double adjustable QA1s in the rear. I had them at 2 compression and 5 rebound. Seems rebound should be stiffer... It hit the tire hard! The left front tire did get slightly air born which was super cool! After I discovered the extremely lean plug I focused on that between rounds!

The engine is making good power, the car just needs a few tweaks.

Xplantdad 11-01-2023 07:01 PM

Glad you had fun. Your Camaro sounds and looks great!

dykstra 11-02-2023 11:01 AM

I love everything about this car!

R68GTO 02-07-2024 10:16 PM

https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001OwGr...3K56JjNWL9tA==

Congrats to our own Chuck Burg for making the cover of All Chevy Performance, great car and article!

Xplantdad 02-07-2024 11:43 PM

Great article!

chevyandpontiac 02-08-2024 01:21 AM

The pictures look great! Beautiful cars.

dykstra 02-08-2024 11:14 AM

Indeed! Great article!!!! Congrats!!

big gear head 02-08-2024 11:52 AM

Wow, that's great!

Chuck_Burg 02-08-2024 05:07 PM

Thanks guys. This site and it's members were instrumental in this build. The photographer, Kevin Aguilar, did a great job making the car pop! He took the still photos around dusk, the bluetooth lighting he had with his camera was insane!!!

RPOLS3 02-14-2024 01:42 PM

That cover shot is perfect. Congratulations.

GMC_Typhoon 02-14-2024 08:22 PM

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olredalert 02-15-2024 03:44 PM

----What a great pic!....Bill S

Chuck_Burg 02-15-2024 07:02 PM

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Here are some pics from the magazine.

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napa68 02-15-2024 07:48 PM

I have a whole new appreciation for your car Chuck!

Chuck_Burg 02-15-2024 08:35 PM

Amazing what a real camera can do.... Too bad he didn't take pictures underneath!

Crush 02-16-2024 12:27 AM

All of the sudden I like GOLD!
Well done. I have been following this since day one!

Dave Rifkin 02-16-2024 12:21 PM

Doesn't get much better than that; beautiful car.

chevyman0429 02-16-2024 02:17 PM

Car turned out absolutely amazing congratulations! Is the magazine still available in the stores?

Chuck_Burg 02-16-2024 06:54 PM

Thanks guys! Magazine is available for purchase online or at Barnes & Noble book stores.

SS427 02-16-2024 08:58 PM

Loos fantastic. Great job!

SS4Real 02-16-2024 10:07 PM

Long Beach....I thought I recognized those houses as I grew up there. How close are you to Millikan?

Chuck_Burg 02-16-2024 10:16 PM

I live very close to Millikan. My mother in law went there, class of 73!

LS7 02-16-2024 10:24 PM

I absolutely love everything about this car. Well done!

SS4Real 02-16-2024 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck_Burg (Post 1644051)
I live very close to Millikan. My mother in law went there, class of 73!

Class of '76 here. I have a couple of good friends from her class. There was great street racing in that area. Between the hills by El Dorado Park on either Spring St or Wardlow Road. One of my friends had a gold Camaro just like yours at Millikan in 1975 and 1976 with a 327.

Chuck_Burg 02-17-2024 12:06 AM

Awesome! Yes that is right near my house.... My father in law went to Lakewood High, class of '75. He worked at Lucky's Supermarket right by Milliken back then. He had a Rally Green White Stripe 69 Z28 with deluxe dark green comfortweave!!! RS too. He had Appliance headers on it and Lakewood traction bars.... His buddy had a Hugger Orange one with black stripes... around 1973-1975. What a time that must've been. I tried to replicate that with my car :3gears:

Chuck_Burg 03-28-2024 05:35 PM

There hasn't been an update with the car for a while, other than the magazine deal, which was photographed last summer.

After the fuel delivery mishaps at the track I began discussing solutions with people smarter than myself. One initial idea we came up with was to perform a fuel flow test with the engine running in neutral. I would remove the fuel line from the rear bowl and run the engine for 12 seconds and see how much fuel pumps into a can. I collected about 28 ounces of fuel, so less than 1 quart. We figure the engine probably consumes about 1 quart of fuel in the 1/4 mile so the system is probably on the ragged edge. Obviously this test doesn't take many other factors into consideration: G-Force, aeration, slosh etc.


I went to work to upgrade fuel delivery. I decided to add 1/2" hard line from the tank to the fuel pump. I dropped the tank and added a 1/2" sending unit and removed the sock filter. I also took the liberty of adding a much larger Edelbrock mechanical fuel pump. Once I finished up the new plumbing I started the engine and discovered smoke coming from the breathers and dipstick tube:frown: Uh Oh this can't be good :ooo:

Unfortunately I hurt the motor at the track and roasted two pistons. A combination of lean condition and fuel starvation ultimately led to extreme detonation. Piston rings closed up on number 4 and 7, fractured the ring lands, and slightly scoured the cylinder walls. Engine coming out now...

SO we pulled the engine and gave it back to VanGordon Racing. Good news, no real damage to block or heads. Jim did a full rebuild with 8 new pistons. Everything rebalanced, machined, new bearings etc. We changed the cam timing a little and swapped the Torker intake for TM2-O Tarantula intake with a 1/2" phenolic carb spacer.

While the engine was out I decided to send my headers out to get sandblasted so I could repaint them. The lean condition did a number on the white coating. A friend of mine works at a shop with a nice blasting cabinet and agreed to blast them for me. I gave him the headers and he put them in the trunk of his car and luck would have it, his car got stolen that night. Great.....:mad2: NOS Appliance headers... GONE! Literally my favorite day 2 part of the car, GONE. His car was recovered about 150 miles away a month or so later with no headers in the trunk. Before everyone comments, YES, I still look for them on a daily basis. Craigslist, Offer Up, Ebay. You name it, I'm looking.

Here is where SYC comes to the rescue :beers:. Over in the Classified Section, I write about this sob story on how my headers were stolen. Jose, JBTech, sold me a used set with some pitting and dents. Thanks buddy! I know a fabricator who was going to use the pitted set as a template and build me a reproduction set..... not cheap! Lots of sympathy from fellow members.... after a couple weeks I get a PM from a guy with ZERO history and an account made that day. GREAT! ANOTHER SCAMMER.... I think about it and think maybe he is a real guy, I'll give him my phone number. The guy calls me right away... "Is this Chuck?" uhhhh yes, yes it is. "Chuck my name is Walter, I have what you need!! I was doing a google search on Appliance headers and came accross this thread!" WHAT???? Anyway Walter is 100% real and the real deal! We become friendly and he sells me the headers. NOS with stickers intact, just shelf wear. THANK YOU Walter, screen name is WalterT. Luckily the fabricator didn't start building the new set, which saved me some coin.

We got the engine back in the car, test fit the "new" headers and they fit perfectly. I successfully had them sandblasted and NOT stolen this time and carefully painted them with white stove paint. I also decided to add a more modern Biondo Racing line lock, since my "NOS" Hurst unit did not work :frown:

Anyhow right now we have the 850 jetted 82/83 with 6.5 pv front and rear and it really runs hard! Pulls good to 6000rpm. Some people say you lose bottom end with the Tarantula intake, while that may be true for a 396 or a stock 454, there is no way you'll know the difference in a 496 like this.... It will roast the Pro Tracs in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gear. In case anyone is wondering, the plenum floor on the TM2-O is 5/8" deeper than the Torker. I think we have solved the fuel delivery issue. I plan on bringing it to a chassis dyno for a solid tune up before I run it too hard....

Seems like the car is now, better than ever :burnout:

napa68 03-28-2024 06:27 PM

There was a good article about fuel consumption from a Jenkins interview back in the day. It is some interesting reading. I'll dig it up, scan it and post it. Glad to hear it's all on the mend Chuck!

big gear head 03-28-2024 07:59 PM

I know that it would be an extremely long haul, but this car would be so cool at SCR.

Chuck_Burg 03-28-2024 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by big gear head (Post 1647006)
I know that it would be an extremely long haul, but this car would be so cool at SCR.

That would be a blast!

Too Many Projects 03-28-2024 09:28 PM

Sorry to read about the engine damage, but happy for you that you've already taken care of it and it seems better than ever.

Chuck_Burg 03-28-2024 09:30 PM

I was WAY more upset about the stolen headers than the damaged motor....

Too Many Projects 03-28-2024 09:43 PM

I understand that. I've had vehicles and property stolen and the feeling of anger and violation don't ever completely go away. I have a very deep loathing of thieves.

PeteLeathersac 03-29-2024 02:25 AM

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Car looks great Chuck, love the Magazine Cover shot!
Crazy what searching these old CA Plates sometimes yields so always worth a whirl…:crazy:
Ads below indicate TCA 186 Plates the originals also car traded back to Selling Dealer Stewart Chevrolet in ‘69, then on their lot for a few months.
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~ Pete

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Chuck_Burg 03-29-2024 04:05 AM

Super cool. Another member discovered some of these too! 427 Chevelles at Bill Parker’s 4 Speeds! Some have mags! Haha

FTC 03-29-2024 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteLeathersac (Post 1647035)


Car looks great Chuck, love the Magazine Cover shot!
Crazy what searching these old CA Plates sometimes yields so always worth a whirl…:crazy:
Ads below indicate TCA 186 Plates the originals also car traded back to Selling Dealer Stewart Chevrolet in ‘69, then on their lot for a few months.
:beers:
~ Pete

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OMG, Does that news paper clipping of the auto classified bring me back. We had so many cars to choose from, it's crazy.

PeteLeathersac 03-29-2024 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FTC (Post 1647055)
OMG, Does that news paper clipping of the auto classified bring me back. We had so many cars to choose from, it's crazy.


If you haven’t cruised these below linked threads yet, first includes tons of mixed ads through the glory years w/ lots of know also sYc Member owned cars, second is Novas specifically w/ the last link being all Motion cars.
:beers:
~ Pete

https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthre...=135780&page=5

https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1527069

https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=174049

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napa68 03-31-2024 02:57 PM

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There was a good article about fuel consumption from a Jenkins interview back in the day. It is some interesting reading. I'll dig it up, scan it and post it. Glad to hear it's all on the mend Chuck!

Here is the article from the January 1968 SSDI. For the sake if interest, I am posting the entire article.

Chuck_Burg 04-01-2024 06:28 PM

Thanks Tim! The funny thing is, I actually have a copy of this issue at the Long Beach Hi Performance Swap Meet a few years back!


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