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What is the MCACN doing with what you called "day two concours" thrust.My lime green 71 Z has been preserved in day two form since the mid 70's.L88 hood, big block,Ansen slots and a dana 60 w/4.33's. 16,354 miles with all original paint except for the hood.

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Nice car love the color I have a 71 Rally Nova that color.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: owners2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What is the MCACN doing with what you called &quot;day two concours&quot; thrust.My lime green 71 Z has been preserved in day two form since the mid 70's.L88 hood, big block,Ansen slots and a dana 60 w/4.33's. 16,354 miles with all original paint except for the hood.</div></div>

Jeffrey - your '71 Z looks great. The day-two concours judging at MCACN is for restored cars with period correct day-two speed parts. But, your car would be a BIG hit at MCACN just as it is. What a stance! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] Check with Bob Ashton the big Kahuna with MCACN for details.

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That green Camaro looks awesome.

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Could use some Tow Tabs,for Day-2 look. Just my look at it.

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Really love that Blue Yenko Duece. I use to own a blue Duece from Wallace Chevrolet in Linden NJ.Like I put in my previous replies to who ever is interested I still have the 3 emblems,water pump,the fan, starter, and hood tach from my car. [email protected]

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On the spec page for the HMM article I used Pete Simpson's most recent results (Pure Stock) at the race track for the quarter-mile performance.

[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/shocked.gif[/img] <span style="font-size: 26pt"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #000099"><span style="font-style: italic">PETE WAS FLYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! </span> </span></span></span> [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/shocked.gif[/img]

[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img]

The inspiration for this photo setting was Randy Leffingwell's American Muscle Car book (Otis Chandler's collection). The specific shot is the H.O. ZL1 Camaro at the train yard - just a BAD, BAD shot IMO!!! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...DSC_0257-1.jpg

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">On the spec page for the HMM article I used Pete Simpson's most recent results (Pure Stock) at the race track for the quarter-mile performance.

[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/shocked.gif[/img] <span style="font-size: 26pt"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #000099"><span style="font-style: italic">PETE WAS FLYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! </span> </span></span></span> [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/shocked.gif[/img] </div></div>
Actually , it was my 19 year old son Owen that laid down that time! Thanks for using it!
The roof Deuce is one of the coolest cars, period!
Peter

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Are those header mufflers.they are cool...but watch you're angle ground clearance.......almost damaged my headers on the street..and had to make some adjustments...

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Appreciate it Joe. Those are Cherry Bombs (Roof's originals). That is the angle that the headers (Cyclones) gave me. I hang them off the front rear-spring perch. The pipes exit the car about 6 to 8 inches off of the deck. Railroad crossing jumps will have to be done a bit gingerly!!

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: COPO PETE</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">On the spec page for the HMM article I used Pete Simpson's most recent results (Pure Stock) at the race track for the quarter-mile performance.

[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/shocked.gif[/img] <span style="font-size: 26pt"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #000099"><span style="font-style: italic">PETE WAS FLYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! </span> </span></span></span> [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/shocked.gif[/img] </div></div>
Actually , it was my 19 year old son Owen that laid down that time! Thanks for using it!
The roof Deuce is one of the coolest cars, period!
Peter </div></div>


That young man is talented Pete.!! You must be proud!! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

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We'll Sam now you've got your very own cool &quot;Time Machine&quot;........See ya back in the day..........

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You betcha Joe!!!

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Where can I get my copy of that magazine?

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I go back and look at pg.1 and can't believe its the same car. This car simply transformed! Awesome car and coverage. I know everyone involved is honored.
Just 1 thing Sam, I can't remember ever test driver the &quot;Roof Deuce&quot;, I know Jude's RG yenko camaro was fast! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]
Joe

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nova Jed</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Where can I get my copy of that magazine? </div></div>


Jed, send me your address, I bought a couple extra. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

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I went to the Hemmings site, found the phone number, and gave them a call. You can order as many copies as you want and don't have to buy a subscription if you don't want to. Took 3 days for them to get here. Just be sure to be really specific about which mag and which month you're ordering. The lady on the phone kept trying to send me Hemmings Classic Car.

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Thanks guys! x-baldwin has me covered. I really like the coverage on this car and I hope to see it in person one day. But the site and magazines will have to do for now.

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Just got my copy in the mail from Chris! Thanks again!
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...d/100_1332.jpg

Sam, you get a big thumbs up in my book!

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nova Jed</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just got my copy in the mail from Chris! Thanks again!
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...d/100_1332.jpg

Sam, you get a big thumbs up in my book! </div></div>

You are quite welcome Jed, thanks for all your over the phone advice with Mike's Nova! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif[/img] I still have two extra copies, so if you are out of the country or serving our military anywhere around the world just send me your address.

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Car looks awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Keeping with the day-two theme, a couple guys asked about how I mounted the Mallory coil. I didn't want to drill any holes in the firewall so I used some existing holes for the wire gutter to attach this coil (and resistor).

<span style="font-size: 20pt"><span style="color: #3333FF">Started with a cardboard template to make sure I had a decent design and fit (would recommend taking own measurements as they may vary from car to car) .... </span></span>
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...DSC_0005-3.jpg

<span style="font-size: 20pt"> <span style="color: #3333FF">...then had my talented friends at the fab shop make my mount (18 ga steel - I think)... </span></span>
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...DSC_0007-1.jpg

<span style="font-size: 20pt"><span style="color: #3333FF">...dry run for fit. One of the challenges was keeping the TCS relay switch in the stock position and accomodating it behind the coil, so I designed the mount so the coil would be about an inch off of the firewall. This design also allowed me to easily bolt the coil and resistor to my new mount...</span></span>
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...s/DSC_0008.jpg

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<span style="font-size: 20pt"><span style="color: #3333FF">...this is what the Mallory coil mount looks like from the rear... </span></span>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...DSC_0028-2.jpg

<span style="font-size: 20pt"><span style="color: #3333FF">...side view of dry run...</span></span>
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...DSC_0011-1.jpg

<span style="font-size: 20pt"><span style="color: #3333FF">...top view (dry run)....</span></span> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...s/DSC_0013.jpg

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<span style="font-size: 20pt"><span style="color: #3333FF">... borrowed some knowledge from my <span style="font-style: italic">crafty</span> wife and used her thin cork adhesive backing to prevent scratching the firewall...</span></span> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...DSC_0016-1.jpg

<span style="font-size: 20pt"><span style="color: #3333FF">...primed and drilled holes for mounting the coil and ballast resistor (bottom hole elongated because of a minor miscalculation [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/blush.gif[/img] ) ....</span></span>
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...DSC_0020-1.jpg

<span style="font-size: 20pt"><span style="color: #3333FF">...coil and ballast resistor mounted and final coat with Eastwood's Underhood Black...</span> </span>
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...DSC_0033-2.jpg

<span style="font-size: 20pt"><span style="color: #3333FF">...installed...</span> </span>
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...s/DSC_0165.jpg

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Improvise, adapt, and overcome!

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Now that is cool! Never even noticed it until you mentioned it. Nice!

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Come on Sam....did Eddie do that for you... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img]
Very nice work.... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif[/img]

Mike

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Back in the 70's when I bought the coil for my Mallory dual point, Super Shops store told me to mount it at an angle so the &quot;Mallory&quot; name was level. This was to keep to oil inside the coil from uncovering the internal contacts during cornering. Anyone ever hear of this?
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Greg - that is a real nice set up you had there under your hood.

Never heard that one before. Suppose that logic of <span style="font-style: italic">&quot;at an angle so the &quot;Mallory&quot; name was level&quot;</span> would work if you spent a lot of time on surpentine roads or a circle track.

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Mystery solved. I got a pm from Al Corporon (AlsV8vair) today, saying he thought he knew who manufactured my Nova's traction bars. He then forwarded a catalog page (looks to be a '71 version) and photo from <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Drag Dimensions Limited </span></span>of Downsview Canada. The catalog scan has a detailed blow up of the adjustable snubber. The Roofs remembered the bars were white and I'd say Schonye &amp; co. nailed the original product look. The bars were put on the Deuce just after they bought the car in 1970.

Thanks Al - that sure made my day! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #3333FF"><span style="font-size: 20pt">Drag Dimensions <span style="font-style: italic">COMPETITION TRACTION BARS</span>:</span></span></span>

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...log_page_2.jpg

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #3333FF"><span style="font-size: 20pt">Here's a few ready for shipping...</span></span></span>

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...nsFinished.jpg

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<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 20pt"><span style="color: #3333FF">The Roofs' modified (shock perch removed) <span style="font-style: italic">Drag Dimensions </span>traction bars that are on the car today... </span></span></span>

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...s/100_0892.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...s/100_0895.jpg

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Now all you need is to have Cumby make you the DD sticker on the side....... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif[/img]

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Wow....the power of the internet comes through again....very cool, Sam!

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mystery solved. <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #3333FF"><span style="font-size: 20pt">Drag Dimensions <span style="font-style: italic">COMPETITION TRACTION BARS</span>:</span></span></span>

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...log_page_2.jpg


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Hey Schonye those middle traction bars look familiar too aye...

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I was thinking that too. I'm thinkin they need to go back on. (big smile)
I had not seen slapper bars like those on Sam's car before. They really are a pretty unique piece in that you can leave that factory sway bar on, and you can adjust the snubber height with those slotted openings. If I'd have known about them back in the day, I probably would have put a set on.
Restoring them was a best guess situation. Looks like we may have guessed pretty close.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 20pt"><span style="color: #3333FF">The Roofs' modified (shock perch removed) <span style="font-style: italic">Drag Dimensions </span>traction bars that are on the car today... </span></span></span>

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...s/100_0892.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...s/100_0895.jpg </div></div>

Hi Sam I just checked and I only have one of the small Drag Dimensions decals , Monday I am going to call and have some more made up. as soon as I get I will get them off to you.

Al

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Schone those bars on Sam's car are killer and dead on IMO. Not sure they worked as good as the Lakewoods with more of the slapper type action but really unique. Love em!

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Sam...cool!

Al...way to go!! One Y-net member helping another [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/youguysrock.gif[/img]

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Al sent this cool Drag Dimension factory photo of the press that made the traction bar block that holds the rubber snubber. Where did you get this photo Al?


<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">&quot;Hi Sam I just checked and I only have one of the small Drag Dimensions decals, Monday I am going to call and have some more made up. as soon as I get I will get them off to you.

Al&quot;</span></span>

Thank you very much for your offer! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]



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Ih searching for the history on the company and looking for one of the past owners who I found . I got a e-mail one day from a Lady who new Carl Rowland who was another owner og Drag Dimensions. Lesley was into photography and shot the photos, I have others that she has given me permission to use.

Carl Rowland built and raced this car you may recognize
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...dragdim-vi.jpg

which later became this car
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...rbeltfiat1.jpg

I do have a few other photos of the track bars being welded on assembly and more info on the company.