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roeville 06-05-2014 12:50 AM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KevinW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just received my letter, I do not know whether to laugh or cry [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif[/img]

6/23/69, Dealer code 1, Zone 79 (Hawaii), Dealer Name: GM overseas Distribution

Now what the heck am I supposed to do with that!

I bought the car in north NJ in 82 and it had a Seton Hall University sticker on the window. This car really traveled! LA to Hawaii to NJ!!! </div></div>

Have you discovered anything conclusive? I have the same dealer code/zone for my 1971 Z28. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif[/img]

ken_z 06-05-2014 01:32 AM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
I received my report Monday, good news/bad news. Found out the car was built on 4/23/69 (a Wednesday):-). It was sold at DeLong in San Rafael CA. Bad news is they are out of business and I live 30 minutes from there. I've had the car since
1986, had I known there were the selling dealer I may have had some luck with paperwork. Guy I bought it from thought the original owner from from SF, so those were the dealers I tried. Car has spent it's entire existence in the SF area. Born in LA, then sent north. At least I know what license plate frame to get.

Ken

PeteLeathersac 06-05-2014 01:35 AM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: roeville</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KevinW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just received my letter, I do not know whether to laugh or cry [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif[/img]

6/23/69, Dealer code 1, Zone 79 (Hawaii), Dealer Name: GM overseas Distribution

Now what the heck am I supposed to do with that!

I bought the car in north NJ in 82 and it had a Seton Hall University sticker on the window. This car really traveled! LA to Hawaii to NJ!!! </div></div>

Have you discovered anything conclusive? I have the same dealer code/zone for my 1971 Z28. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif[/img] </div></div>

Some distribution codes likebthis were used to process orders for military personnel stationed overseas without cars ever actually leaving mainland US, was that 'Vette we looked at here a year or three ago Zone 79 too?
Again it seems the NCRS reports are being gleaned from info recorded of who was billed for the cars also the MSO's sent to so the shipping info may sometimes differ?
Back to these Zone 79 cars, it wouldn't be surprising to find they were ordered by military personnel stationed overseas so feel proud also good luck if you dig into this possibility also finding whoever may have ordered them!
[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif[/img]
~ Pete



roeville 06-05-2014 02:20 AM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> It was sold at DeLong in San Rafael CA. At least I know what license plate frame to get.

Ken </div></div>

Ken, this guy has your frame and is in Pleasanton.
http://www.calicenseplates.com/chevr...s-listing.html

TAR6569 06-05-2014 03:30 AM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DWCamaro69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Got my report today. My 69 RSZ was delivered to Harbor Chevrolet in Long Beach, CA. It is still in business! Think there is any chance they have 45 year old records? </div></div>

Their newspaper ads are on newspaperarchive.com If you want to PM me the end of your vin, I can check the ones I jotted down and see if yours was one of them. (I went through all their ads on that site)

x77-69z28 06-05-2014 05:27 AM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tarrytown SS427s</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pleased to learn today that my 66 Chevy II SS sold through Robert in Hicksville LI. Excellent service, and really hope it will be available for fullsize cars someday. </div></div>
I believe Robert Chevrolet is still in business.

Kurt S 06-05-2014 07:27 AM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TAR6569</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DWCamaro69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Got my report today. My 69 RSZ was delivered to Harbor Chevrolet in Long Beach, CA. It is still in business! Think there is any chance they have 45 year old records? </div></div>

Their newspaper ads are on newspaperarchive.com If you want to PM me the end of your vin, I can check the ones I jotted down and see if yours was one of them. (I went through all their ads on that site) </div></div>

Dana / Warren,
Those VIN's should already be listed on the CRG orphan lists.

DWCamaro69 06-05-2014 08:15 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
Steve, Thank you for the information. It would be great if they had anything. I am going to call them today.

Warren/Kurt, My VIN is L519638. Not on the CRG orphan list. Thanks for information.

Day2_69Z 06-06-2014 06:52 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
I too received a no records found on a late production 69 Z/28 9N701--9 . ..
Roy sent me back a message stating he IS NO LONGER AFFILIATED with the program...but they are reviewing records as they may have missed some.... re-apply in a few weeks....?

x77-69z28 06-06-2014 09:15 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: daytwo69Z</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I too received a no records found on a late production 69 Z/28 9N701--9 . ..
Roy sent me back a message stating he IS NO LONGER AFFILIATED with the program...but they are reviewing records as they may have missed some.... re-apply in a few weeks....? </div></div>
Wow! What happened there? Was Roy supposed to get this up and running and then let others take over? This is an outstanding service and hats off to Roy!

DWCamaro69 06-07-2014 01:06 AM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DWCamaro69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Got my report today. My 69 RSZ was delivered to Harbor Chevrolet in Long Beach, CA. It is still in business! Think there is any chance they have 45 year old records? </div></div>

Just picked this up. Not cheap but cheaper than if my car had come from Dana Chevrolet [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif[/img]
http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL826.../409584119.jpg

mbxlesney 06-08-2014 06:51 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
Is this the same SCHMIDT in Ohio? [img]https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...ip_emblems_014[/img]

bwag 06-08-2014 07:37 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
Yep.The same Schmidt... The Bob Schmidt emblem from Maumee Ohio is one the last chrome bolt on ones used. Originally Bob's father ran Carl Schmidt Chevrolet in Perrysburg ,Ohio from the 40's until his death in the mid 60's. Bob took over the dealership then and didn't change to his own name until the early 70's. The dealership then moved to Maumee Ohio , about 5 miles away, during the 1974 model year.

wisemanz28 06-08-2014 09:50 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
That dealership is right down the street from me.

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 06-09-2014 04:12 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: daytwo69Z</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I too received a no records found on a late production 69 Z/28 9N701--9 . ..
Roy sent me back a message stating he IS NO LONGER AFFILIATED with the program...but they are reviewing records as they may have missed some.... re-apply in a few weeks....? </div></div>

What is the back story on this? Who is running the program now?

x77-69z28 06-09-2014 05:24 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: daytwo69Z</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I too received a no records found on a late production 69 Z/28 9N701--9 . ..
Roy sent me back a message stating he IS NO LONGER AFFILIATED with the program...but they are reviewing records as they may have missed some.... re-apply in a few weeks....? </div></div>

What is the back story on this? Who is running the program now? </div></div>that's what I said!

TimG 06-09-2014 07:47 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
I'm not sure what's going on with this, I'm involved with NCRS, but I don't have a clue why this service has ceased or if this applies to other lines of GM cars, also.

enio45 06-09-2014 09:01 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
in a previous thread roy indicated that he was going on vacation for a week or so......not sure if this has any impact??

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 06-09-2014 09:06 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
The response: 'no longer affiliated' is light years different than a vacation. It appeared this effort was receiving more positive affirmation than anything we've seen in a very long time, so why the 'change up'?

Even for those of us who got perplexing letters, either no VIN found, or codes without names, etc... it is still a positive. I hope this service continues! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

COPO140 06-09-2014 09:54 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
I agree, this is s service we would all love to see continue. I have paid for a request and hope that it will still be honored since I paid for the service. I hope someone will come on here and clarify.

mbxlesney 06-09-2014 10:04 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
Well the site was still taking money yesterday when I put in an order #1451. Must be alot of takers as from other forums besides here as I saw the highest #s here in the 700s. I hope someone comes on here and lets us know whats up. I have 3 other titles I would like run also when funds become available. I thought I would try the most important car to me first to see if it matches docs and former owners wisdom.

L78racer 06-09-2014 11:08 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
Here's a long winded Corvette Forum thread about NCRS and Mr. Sinor.
In post no.71 someone states &quot;Currently the Document Validation Service is suspended until further notice. All other documents services will continue an usual.&quot;
I'm not sure what this means. I'm #1117 and still waiting to hear something on my Camaro.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c1-a...surdity-4.html

enio45 06-09-2014 11:08 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
I was asked by a member to post this response from ROY.....

&quot;On Friday, June 6, 2014 2:17 PM, Roy Sinor &lt;[email protected]&gt; wrote:




Tom, NCRS is researching the 69 Camaro and Nova data again. A record was kept of all reports that they considered partial. Each if this will be re evaluated.


I am no longer involved in this research, I can provide you no further information as I do not know their future plans.


Roy &quot;



Sent from my iPhone

enio45 06-09-2014 11:14 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
Well that thread is interesting to say the least.....

I still have one research request in #1174....so I guess ill have to wait and see what happens

ZLP955 06-09-2014 11:46 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
In a similar thread over at CRG, June 8, Roy wrote:
&quot;I am no longer involved with NCRS in any shape form or fashion, I'm proud of what this service provides, I'm proud of my service record to NCRS, I'm proud of the lifetime achievement award presented to me last July., I wanted to continue working on this project but will not be doing that.
I no longer have access to any of the information.
Enough said.
Sorry&quot;

And today this:
&quot;I'm pretty sure the service will continue, I'm not privy to any of the details, do not know the plans, or who will process the stuff.&quot;

WILMASBOYL78 06-10-2014 12:15 AM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
Well...just when something finally starts going in the right direction it appears the wheels are falling off [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]

I was going to send in for the docs on a few of our cars, but haven't gotten around to it yet...looks like it may be too late [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif[/img]

Hopefully this will get resolved and back on track.

wilma [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img]

***update***sent in a request for one of the Novas...got an email receipt...so we will see [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img]

MyRed67 06-10-2014 12:40 AM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
Dan,
would you have, or know anyone who might have old pictures of the Zepelak Chevrolet Dealership?

PeteLeathersac 06-10-2014 01:14 AM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 

Sorry to read about Roy, hope he's Ok also all works out for everyone!
Heads up Elmhurst guys, a few Celozzi-Ettleson trinkets on eBay also a Zepelak '66 owners manual w/ POP.
Try the links below also there's more C/E items listed too.
[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]
~ Pete

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-1976-Milk-Glas...=item1c41971a56

http://www.ebay.com/itm/a-Celozzi-Ettles...=item56660bc5dc

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1966-Zepelak-Chev...6d2e&amp;_uhb=1




L72copocamaro 06-10-2014 03:02 AM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TimG</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm not sure what's going on with this, I'm involved with NCRS, but I don't have a clue why this service has ceased or if this applies to other lines of GM cars, also. </div></div>

Has the service ceased, or is it just that Roy is no longer involved?

PeteLeathersac 06-10-2014 03:38 AM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 

Sadly it looks like rough seas happening w/ Roy also the whole NCRS?
Hopefully all's soon smoothed out and the new service is back on track!
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c1-a...absurdity.html
[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]
~ Pete

TimG 06-10-2014 01:35 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
I'm sorry to hear about this and about Roy not being involved with NCRS. I've been a member of NCRS since 1990 and love the organization. I've known Roy for years and have absolute respect for him.

Rixls6 06-10-2014 02:50 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteLeathersac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Sadly it looks like rough seas happening w/ Roy also the whole NCRS?
Hopefully all's soon smoothed out and the new service is back on track!
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c1-a...absurdity.html
[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]
~ Pete </div></div>

I read most of that linked thread, and think it's a real shame that the service has been cancelled, at least for now. Hopefully they get it ironed out soon! (For the sake of our old iron [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img] )

COPO140 06-10-2014 03:18 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
I place my order on 5/29 for one of my cars. I sent an email to the service this morning inquiring about my document since I already paid for the service. I received the reply below:

&quot;As the order page indicates “Pleas allow up to 30 days for delivery of ordered documents.” I would anticipate that we will meet that time frame. Your order was made on 5/29/2014 so I would guess you should have it before 6/28/2014&quot;.

John Waggoner
Administrator
www.ncrs.org

This indicates to me that the service is operational.

Mr70 06-10-2014 03:23 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
Word on the street is that earlier NCRS docs with Roys signature are more desirable.

Is there any weight to this?

427TJ 06-10-2014 03:37 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr70</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Word on the street is that earlier NCRS docs with Roys signature are more desirable.

Is there any weight to this? </div></div>

Anything to squeeze another buck out of it. (More desirable = more money.)

enio45 06-10-2014 03:57 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
what is the latest order number from this site that has been sent out to date?

im 1174 and waiting...

PeteLeathersac 06-10-2014 04:13 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 

Good grief and what's next, replica Roy docs...or would that be &quot;restoration paperwork&quot;?
Amazingly bad timing w/ these recent events considering the new NCRS service just got going also all the positive the dealer results were creating!

NCRS still accepting $ for the service is good news as whatever happens, they'll most likely process those paid?
Anyone that needs to may be best to get their order underway immediately, just in case any more bad erupts and things change for the worse?
Whatever happens from here, again best wishes to Roy also the NCRS as a whole!

Reading the 'Vette forum thread posts, when the NCRS verifies claims made for cars running through BJ, are they only confirming a specific car was NCRS certified in the past or do they look for key components still being with the cars and report or note in their files when something major's been removed before auction?
[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img]
~ Pete




limerat5 06-10-2014 05:17 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
Good luck Roy and thanks for ur help.:)

olredalert 06-10-2014 05:21 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
----I would be willing to bet that G.C. is at the bottom of this latest NCRS debacle. G.C. and another member tried their best to get me thrown out of two national meets and didn't succeed. Cant print his name for fear of &quot;legal action, LOL!&quot;. He is a gigantic tool. When they finally lied right to my face I decided enough was enough, even though I had an absurdly low member#. With apologies to members of this great sight who still carry a torch, I don't miss it a bit......Bill S

Lynn 06-10-2014 06:27 PM

Re: NCRS Historical Document Services
 
Roy is the only one in the organiztion I have ever met personally. A real class act.

Wishing him only the best.


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