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GotGrunt 06-25-2019 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by chevyandpontiac (Post 1452907)
Maybe time to buy a second gen F Body. You have the traction bars.

Do you think that excuse will fly with the wife? :D

chevyandpontiac 01-14-2020 08:40 PM

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Just scored these NOS JR's traction bars, they are for 2nd gen Fbody. They still have paint runs in the bolt holes. No hardware but I have plenty of that.

R68GTO 05-03-2020 08:22 PM

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Restored a set of vintage Lakewood traction bars that have been on my car since 1971 (date code on the snubbers is '71). Had the original hardware all re-plated yellow zinc per original. I have a couple of questions on the mounting to the axle tube. The outside J-bolt goes where the factory U-bolt is located and slips under the bend in the brake line. What about the inside J-bolt - I suppose you have to bend a another opening in the brake line to install? The forward two bolts that were on mine were carriage bolts with an "L" cast into the head. I assumed it was for "Lakewood" but maybe a coincidence. Why wouldn't a person just use the factory T-bolts? Anyone have a good photo showing my style bar mounted up?

whitetop 05-08-2020 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by R68GTO (Post 1497439)
Restored a set of vintage Lakewood traction bars that have been on my car since 1971 (date code on the snubbers is '71). Had the original hardware all re-plated yellow zinc per original.


Bars look great If you really want to be correct the original nuts were black phosphate. I've had plenty of NOS over the years. Also seen in this ad.

R68GTO 05-09-2020 09:49 AM

If you really want to be correct the original nuts were black phosphate.

There is always a chance the nuts were changed when the prior owner sold off the BE rear and the bars got re-mounted (2004-2006 timeframe), but some of the nuts I removed were "smashed" on one face due to lots of hard launches. The inside of all the nuts were clearly gold cad. These bars are rectangular tube 1971 versions so maybe they changed the nut finish when they went to the rectangular style?
Anyone have input on the mounting?

whitetop 05-09-2020 04:02 PM

I bought 5 sets of NOS bars from the guy who bought out the huge stash of vintage speed parts from the old S&S Speed in Falls Church VA that was featured in the magazines 15 years ago. Rectangular bars. I estimate the bars were 71-75 era -long tails with rear spring clamp. All had black phosphate nuts and u bolts were gold cad. (J bolts never came with the bars-they were optional)

I looked this morning at the j bolt and u bolt NOS packs I have from early 70's all have gold nuts.

chevyandpontiac 05-09-2020 09:23 PM

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These are NOS

TheNovaMan 05-10-2020 08:13 PM

Was that the original design for the strap? And then later they went to the U-shaped strap?

chevyandpontiac 05-11-2020 11:02 AM

The first design was the twist, then they went to the U type
1. Square tube twist strap
2. Square tube u strap
3. Rectangle tube u strap

TheNovaMan 05-11-2020 10:47 PM

Does anyone know the approximate years they made the square tube, u strap bars? And were any of those available with u-bolt AND j-bolt holes, or only 4 fastener holes in the mounting plate?

When did they eliminate the ~6" of bar that stuck out the back, and does anyone know what that was for?

whitetop 05-12-2020 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheNovaMan (Post 1498704)

When did they eliminate the ~6" of bar that stuck out the back, and does anyone know what that was for?

The extended rear went well into late 70's maybe even early 80' though the spring clamp piece that was welded to it was gone since 1974 ish.

169indy 06-12-2020 06:02 PM

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Ground Grabber Traction Bar Vintage INFO.

Credit Mike V or Seattle; re. He seen my 68 Camaro with my incorrectly finished Ansens on, He found Vintage set and took very good photos and it clearly displays use of the sticker and plated finish. Cad or Zinc, Brite, with Clear DiChromate Type III post treatment (i.e. Silvery finish) NOT Dichromate Type II (Gold). Very cool is he had a set of instructions also.



ASTM-B633
Type III refers to a clear (blue brite) chromate (passivate); Type II refers to a colored (yellow, olive drab)chromate.

Jim
(*Crud I incorrectly plated my three set based on the Yellow paper of the catalog * DOH!)

Edit photo size & post. (JFW)

scuncio 09-29-2020 12:44 AM

Anyone have an idea what brand / application these are?

https://photos.smugmug.com/Ebay/i-qq...ion%20bars.jpg

WorkinProgress 09-29-2020 03:37 AM

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2nd generation Camaro.

JR is the brand.

- Warren

scuncio 09-29-2020 03:50 AM

Thanks Warren!

chevyandpontiac 09-29-2020 11:30 AM

Tony, how do you keep ending up with second gen camaro traction bars? LOL

scuncio 09-29-2020 02:55 PM

I know! I must need to buy a 2nd-gen.

chevyandpontiac 09-29-2020 09:50 PM

Tony if you watch the Ebay & others section there is a guy by the name of scuncio that always posts cars for sale, I bet he could find a second gen camaro for you. LOL

scuncio 09-29-2020 11:04 PM

That guy...that guy indeed

169indy 10-11-2020 03:52 PM

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Thought I would post my 'Before' photo of my 1968Z28 Camaro Leaf spring Drag Dimensions "T-Bars".

Original Rubber Snubbers and Steel retainers, NOS Sticker, Replacement U-Bolts and hardware (ie. Nuts, Locks, flats and cotter)

Off to Powder Coat and Zinc Plating.

169indy 11-04-2020 05:10 AM

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Got them Back; Bright White Polyester Epoxy Coated, Zinc plated parts, NOS stickers, Rubber Snubber-Bumpers in Perfect Condition.

Drag Dimensions T-Bars Part Number 1305

Will be re installed on my 68Z as found parked in 1979 (Rest 2003- till),,,,,,

Jim

jbtech 11-04-2020 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 169indy (Post 1520940)
Got them Back; Bright White Polyester Epoxy Coated, Zinc plated parts, NOS stickers, Rubber Snubber-Bumpers in Perfect Condition.

Drag Dimensions T-Bars Part Number 1305

Will be re installed on my 68Z as found parked in 1979 (Rest 2003- till),,,,,,

Jim

Thanks to Dan (chevyandpontiac) I have these same bars! Could you send me a copy of the stickers if possible so I could have them printed?
Thanks

GotGrunt 03-14-2021 10:45 PM

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NOS competition engineering ladder bars for GM A-body. Dug these out and gave them a quick wipe down. Tried to do some research on them but came up empty, so posting some pics for others. These have been discontinued for a while now. Uses u-bolts to clamp to the axle tube unlike the Lakewood/NMW version.

x33rs 03-14-2021 11:18 PM

Neat. I have an old set laying around that were on an L78 Chevelle we used to have. They are painted however, not chrome.

GotGrunt 05-07-2022 12:42 AM

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Can anyone ID these traction bars?

chevyandpontiac 05-09-2022 11:13 AM

Mustang/Cougar, they look like Chapman from Chicago

chevyandpontiac 09-29-2023 04:30 PM

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Just picked up 6 sets of my Lakewoods from the powder coater, a few of these are NOS. I have an addication problem. All of these are J bolt

COPO 09-30-2023 03:23 AM

Love those square tube ones.

69camaro76b 02-21-2024 08:41 PM

Traction bar ID?
 
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Here's a pic of the traction bars on my 69 Camaro project. I've looked thru this thread and believe these may be Kool Fuel bars? Can anyone confirm this. Any old ads exist regarding them if that's what they are? Thxs for the help

chevyandpontiac 02-21-2024 11:33 PM

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They could be MAS also.

69camaro76b 02-22-2024 12:26 AM

Thanks for the reply and pic. I ran some fine sandpaper on my bars and they are painted blue underneath. Also did a little homework and Kool-Fuel was out of Oklahoma. This car has an old faded OK registration sticker on the windshield... Anyone have an old Kool-Fuel catalog kicking around?

69camaro76b 02-22-2024 08:10 PM

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Found these sticker images online, but no catalogs.

Damien 05-21-2024 08:41 PM

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Finally got around to doing something with my Mr Gasket bars.
Ready now for some orange/red and decals.

cook_dw 07-16-2024 01:10 PM

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Thought I would add another set of unequal length Lakewood bars with the twisted plate for the J bolts. If anyone has an extra set of hardware shoot me a pm. Prefer used but will consider anything you have.


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