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I realized that the other day when my wife asked me: "Isn't that Yenko site for Chevy guys?" I said, "Well, actually Honey, It's for all of us good Americans who enjoy musclecars of all types regardless of (lost) races, greed, or financial origins."
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After looking at your console I have a question. The 72 Camaros had a place in the console to put the 2 buckles for each seat, did the Firebird have anything like that? RAY [/ QUOTE ] There was a plastic two tab retainer that bolted on to the side of the console. For some reason mine did not have it installed at the factory, though I may add it if I can frind a set, just because I like the cleaner look instead of the seatbelts just lieing around willy-nilly. Here is the factory diagram . #15 is the belt retainer. http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...a/console1.jpg |
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Great stuff Steve. I am going to use your seat belt resto as a reference... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif
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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif Come clean MacGyver! You'll sleep better. Oh and by the way, thanks for the awesome tutorial on restoring a muscle car with just a swiss army knife, a ball of string, and some chewing gum (and that de-rusting stuff) https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif !!!!!! [/ QUOTE ] Oh, by the way, you should have seen the look on the old lady's face in the sewing section as I was struggling, trying to pick out the right type of elastic for the belts (which, coincidentally is also used for making intimate female undergarments). She quickly looked at my chest and then says: "I think you should get the 48" length, it might fit better." https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/blush.gif Oh the stuff I have to go through just to get this car back on the road...Maybe I should have left the high heals at home. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif |
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I realized that the other day when my wife asked me: "Isn't that Yenko site for Chevy guys?" I said, "Well, actually Honey, It's for all of us good Americans who enjoy musclecars of all types regardless of (lost) races, greed, or financial origins." https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ouguysrock.gif [/ QUOTE ] Bingo.......... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ouguysrock.gif Ken https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif |
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[ QUOTE ] I realized that the other day when my wife asked me: "Isn't that Yenko site for Chevy guys?" I said, "Well, actually Honey, It's for all of us good Americans who enjoy musclecars of all types regardless of (lost) races, greed, or financial origins." https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ouguysrock.gif [/ QUOTE ] Bingo.......... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ouguysrock.gif Ken https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif [/ QUOTE ] Yep!...Couldn't have said it better myself! |
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I have a question about the console with the 8 track player. Is the console the same as one without 8 track, just with added parts that come out (like the face plate), or is the face plate an actual fixed piece to the console?
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There are 2 consoles for all the 2nd gen Firebirds: a four speed model and an automatic model based on where the shifter hole is. They are different than Camaro 2nd gen consoles. Normally a plastic "map pocket" insert covers the area where the 8-track player goes. If you check out the diagram a couple posts above this, the map pocket insert is shown as item #11.
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All in favor of mandatory reassignment of handle from <font color="red"> njsteve </font> to <font color="red"> MacGyver </font> raise your hand (thumb)!
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Only if I get one of them "MacGyver Sucks" banners.
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Here are some more of the latest bady shop photos. Enoch is spending a lot of time sanding, priming, resanding, repriming...He's not gonna stop til it's to his satisfaction, despite all my harassment about getting the car done quickly. (which I do appreciate. Though I want to get this car on the road before 2008, which is 173 days away).
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...runk071207.jpg http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...nder071207.jpg http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...8a/hood1-1.jpg http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...268a/hood3.jpg http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...268a/hood3.jpg http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...268a/hood6.jpg |
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Okay, so I was posting to the companion novel I have of my progress on the T/A, at the Performance Years website and this guy jokingly asks me how I am going to "restore" that grungy old 8-track tape of the "Pontiac Stereo 8-track Sounds for 1972".
Having laid down the gauntlet I decided to go ahead and do just that, just to bust his balz. Here is the before tape: http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...268a/tape1.jpg http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...268a/tape2.jpg http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...268a/tape3.jpg I took the tape and scanned all three surfaces of the label into my computer, and converted it into a jpeg. I then spent about 12 hours on the Microsoft Paint program at 800% magnification, erasing all the yellow from the background and from between every single letter, pixel by pixel. It was like Pac-Man on a massive scale. (I should have let my kids do it, it would have went much faster). Carpal Tunnel Syndrome is a wonderful thing. Once that was done, I cut and pasted the three images together into one image file. The next fun was the 2 hours of adjusting the size so it printed out in the exact same size as the original decal. I had to keep adding to the length of the image to get it to center properly on paper with the right width and length. Here is the final version. I printed it out on adhesive backed label paper that I had at the house. A glossier paper would be better but this gives you an idea of how it looks. Now all I need is a nice clean blank 8-track to put it on. Anybody have one? http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...P71600031a.jpg http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...a/P7160001.jpg |
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Wow Steve, the lengths you go to. Unbelievable! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif
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Nobody tells me I can't do something! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif
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Weirdo! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif
Man, Steve you really are an inspiration. You never fail to impress. Great work as usual. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif |
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Someone get Steve an 8 track...quick! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif
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Steve, I checked my stash and could not find a white one that I can part with. Found an off-white one of Spyro gyro that I won't be using https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif
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Nobody tells me I can't do something! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif (except for my wife...and my banker...and the IRS....) [/ QUOTE ] You can't restore my 1969 Corvette... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif |
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Oh, that's easy enough...send me the title so I can restore that first. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif
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What's your address Steve.
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Nice job "Mac"! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif
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Nice one Rick. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif
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What's your address Steve. [/ QUOTE ] I PM'd you the info. I appreciate any help you can provide, Sir. Now if we can just figure out how to hollow out the 8-track to house an MP3 player and then transfer the 8 track music files to a modern format... Stay tuned for next week's episode of "As the Bird Flips." https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif |
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Stay tuned for next week's episode of "As the Bird Flips." [/ QUOTE ] aka... flip the tape, not the bird https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif |
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Dang Mac, given your current progress, when do you expect to have her completed?
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"...We used the old, 2-man welding wire method to saw
through the rubber seal and then lift out the window..." No matter what some good intentioned 'magic tool' bearing experts/friends/helpers may say, this old two man wire method is always the best way to extract original glass in one piece!. Your pic of the wire wrapped around the screwdrivers looks so familiar and reminds me of all the good times working at the boneyard where in the days before cheap aftermarket glass was available I pulled tons of used w'shlds sucessfully using this method.. Just make sure you or your helper doesn't get rammy and push the glass away from the seal too quickly after cutting it as constant steady pressure will allow it to slowly move away from cut, sticky seals, even in a hot day's sunlight.. It's like removing an old decal as pulling it too quickly and it'll break but constant pressure and it'll slowly come off.. The car is looking great!!!. ~ Pete https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif |
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Enoch came over on Sunday to pull the rear window out so I could clean out the butyl weatherstripping in preparation for bringing the body to him. We used the old, 2-man welding wire method to saw through the rubber seal and then lift out the window. http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...a/S7000445.jpg http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...a/S7000446.jpg Make sure you save the "OLD" Trim Clips........LOL Ken |
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Cleaned up the window channel area this afternoon. All the orginal yellow clips came out unscathed. It didn't take much time, I used a metal gasket scraper and slid it under the butyl bead and it came up in one piece - and this was the original 1972 material, too. No rust underneath, just some flakey red oxide primer and original blackout paint. I then used a rotary wire brush to get any rubber residue out. Just trying to save a few bucks (and hours of Enoch's time) off my bill. I'll see about removing the trunk weatherstripping next. I have to hit the auto parts store tomorrow to see if they have some weatherstrip remover spray to loosen it up.
BTW, gotta love the typical 1970's hacksaw job on the speaker holes. Why the heck didnt people just mount the damn speakers under the panel instead of sawing a gigantic hole through the rear deck to bolt them on the top of the package tray. What were we thinking back then??? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...a/P7170006.jpg http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...a/P7170001.jpg http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...a/P7170015.jpg |
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While I was at it, I cleaned the front window channel too...
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Found some of the 3M "Adhesive Cleaner" at the local auto parts store. 3M doesn't make the Weatherstrip Adhesive Remover anymore, and it superceded to this stuff. I guess it was just too effective so they had to take it off the market. This stuff didn't do a whole lot to existing trunk weatherstripping because it can't really get down under the rubber and into the channel, so you still have to rip, peel and scrape your way down to the channel. Once you get the majority of the old weatherstripping out you can then spray this stuff on and let it soak in. I then used a wire wheel on a hand drill and the rest of the adhesive and weatherstripping residue came out.
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I've been using 3M products for 31 years now, and if there's one thing I've learned, it's that they never leave well enough alone. You find a product that works well and get used to using it. The next time you buy a can of it, you find that it doesn't work as well as the previous batch, because they've re-formulated it. I've had that problem with their Wax and Grease remover a few times, and now just lately their automotive grade green masking tape. It's pretty frustrating, because they'll never admit there's any problems with their products, but eventually it'll go back to the way it was.
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Many, many thanks to Mr70 who sent me a pristine white 8-track housing along with the original cardboard wrapper.
Here is the finished product. I ended up printing the label on a large piece of 8-1/2 by 11 photo paper. I then cut it out and used spray adhesive (the kind designed for mounting photos in scrap books) on the back of the photo and the sides of the tape. It stuck perfectly and the photo paper gloss matches the original label perfectly. Thanks to all who helped during this chapter of the ongoing novel, especially Mr70! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif P.S. I am still trying to figure out why the lady in the photo is sitting on a green bench seat in the middle of a tropical rain forest. Where the heck is the rest of the car? or is this some clue to the next episode of "Lost?" http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...a/P7200003.jpg http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...a/P7200001.jpg http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...a/P7200004.jpg http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...a/P7200005.jpg |
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Mac,
Most excellent! Sounds like your projects "progress" like mine https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/blush.gif ! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif |
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Those are the originals. I just cleaned them with the fine grade wire brush on a bench grinder. Just make sure you have lots of room to twist and turn the lines as you go along.
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More bodyshop progress. Discovered some interesting discrepencies in how the underside of the shaker is supposed to be painted. Here is a shot of an original one with the natural finish showing on the fiberglass:
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...kerbottom5.jpg http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...akerbottom.jpg And now the one from my car. As you can see the underside was fully blacked out prior to the metal mounting base being riveted on at the factory. (The underside was lightly glassbeaded prior to these photos so that is why the white base material is showing) http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...oop1072507.jpg http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...oop2072507.jpg http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...oop3072507.jpg |
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