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Chuck_Burg 12-28-2022 08:03 PM

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I guess I can't leave well enough alone.

When I was restoring the car I purchased some nice Packard SS550 wires on eBay only to find the vintage style straight boots to be incompatible with the MSD distributor cap so I decided to leave the existing wires my engine builder provided thinking the look would grow on me. As time went on the distributor and wires just became an eye sore for me! I pulled the original distributor (dated July 13th, 1966) out of the original 327 and set out to restore it and put it in my big block.

I found a brand new brown 309R cap and 409R rotor on eBay, both sealed in their original boxes. I was going to go with Pertronix but decided what the hell, may as well keep it super old school and stick with points. I went with Blue Streak DR2371XP points and Blue Streak DR-70XP condenser based on my engine builders 50 years of experience. I removed the original grease and thoroughly cleaned the entire housing, then polished the distributor shaft and points cam with an emery cloth. The shaft bushings were still in very good shape so I didn't replace those. After reassembly, it was getting way too much centrifugal advance so after some math, I determined I needed to shorten the advance slot by about .064". To solve this I applied a small bit of weld to the slot and used a rasp to file the slot to the determined length of .381", compared to the factory .445". The factory slot was giving it 28* of advance, now I get 18* of advance which suits this engine nicely. 18* initial and 36* total which comes in at an early 2,000rpm. I am not using the vacuum advance and went as far as to put some silicon on the point plate to prevent it from advancing at all. I went with the Moroso advance kit, using one of the lightest advance springs and one of the medium springs. I also installed a brand new Comp Cams composite distributor gear.

Now the L88 wires are right at home on this restored distributor and it really looks like it would have back in the day. It performs great as well! With the amount I use the car, I probably won't have to mess with it too much anyway.

scuncio 12-28-2022 08:17 PM

I love it!

Too Many Projects 12-28-2022 08:21 PM

Dang perfectionist... :worship:
Looks nice, Chuck !!

dykstra 12-28-2022 08:23 PM

Way cool score!!

napa68 12-28-2022 08:56 PM

Perfect.......freaking perfect!:biggthumpup:

Chuck_Burg 12-28-2022 09:22 PM

Thanks guys... I have also been working on upgrading the stock fuel system to keep the beast hydrated, sometimes I worry a stock fuel pump isn't enough for a 600hp 496. I made a bracket from 3/16" aluminum where I'll be mounting an old Fram HPG-1 fuel filter and a carter electric fuel pump. Going to mount it to the floor between the gas tank and the rear end. I will wire the pump on a switch and only use it for "spirited driving" and priming the bowls. I thought of mounting it in the trunk like many motion cars but decided this would be safer and cleaner. I need to get started on that project...

Chuck_Burg 12-28-2022 09:26 PM

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Probably my favorite picture of the car... This thing screams period street machine

napa68 12-28-2022 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck_Burg (Post 1609654)
Thanks guys... I have also been working on upgrading the stock fuel system to keep the beast hydrated, sometimes I worry a stock fuel pump isn't enough for a 600hp 496. I made a bracket from 3/16" aluminum where I'll be mounting an old Fram HPG-1 fuel filter and a carter electric fuel pump. Going to mount it to the floor between the gas tank and the rear end. I will wire the pump on a switch and only use it for "spirited driving" and priming the bowls. I thought of mounting it in the trunk like many motion cars but decided this would be safer and cleaner. I need to get started on that project...

Pics! We need pics!

R68GTO 12-28-2022 10:00 PM

Your new dizzy & wire setup is freakin' awesome! Car looks great with the slots!

Crush 12-28-2022 10:02 PM

This is my 2nd favorite car on here…… just a killer car!!

Chuck_Burg 12-28-2022 10:22 PM

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Here's the goods Tim... I made cardboard template then got some scrap aluminum and put it in my father in laws brake. Bent it at a 65* angle and drilled some holes for the filter and the pump. I will mostly hardline this to make for a cleaner install. I think it will most likely be a straight old school draw through system meaning the fuel will always be drawn through the pump whether it's on or off. The pump is a Carter 4600HP rated at 50 gallons/hour and 4.5-8psi.

Chuck_Burg 12-28-2022 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by R68GTO (Post 1609659)
Your new dizzy & wire setup is freakin' awesome! Car looks great with the slots!

Thank you! I agree... The slots just give it such a sinister look. All business

Chuck_Burg 12-28-2022 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Crush (Post 1609660)
This is my 2nd favorite car on here…… just a killer car!!

WOW! Thanks Crush.... Did I mention it drives as good as it looks?

Crush 12-28-2022 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck_Burg (Post 1609665)
WOW! Thanks Crush.... Did I mention it drives as good as it looks?

My daughter lives near LA. When I’m out there I’ll come by for a spin!!!lol

napa68 12-28-2022 10:58 PM

The cool thing about a Day 2 car, they are never done. They most always continue to evolve.

Of course, is any project car ever "done"?

Chuck_Burg 12-28-2022 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by napa68 (Post 1609671)
The cool thing about a Day 2 car, they are never done. They most always continue to evolve.

Of course, is any project car ever "done"?

True on all accounts. I understand most of this stuff is way over restored/thought out for most "real" "Day 2" cars but if I lived back then and had the money/knowledge/time to do it like this, this is what it what it would've been :headbang:

cheveslakr 12-29-2022 02:45 AM

Perfecto!! and unless my eyes are just seeing what they want to....there's an old small diameter Coors can around that coil??

Chuck_Burg 12-29-2022 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jer (Post 1609682)
Perfecto!! and unless my eyes are just seeing what they want to....there's an old small diameter Coors can around that coil??

Yes indeed, a genuine old timey coors can!

69M22Z 12-29-2022 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck_Burg (Post 1609640)
I guess I can't leave well enough alone.

When I was restoring the car I purchased some nice Packard SS550 wires on eBay only to find the vintage style straight boots to be incompatible with the MSD distributor cap so I decided to leave the existing wires my engine builder provided thinking the look would grow on me. As time went on the distributor and wires just became an eye sore for me! I pulled the original distributor (dated July 13th, 1966) out of the original 327 and set out to restore it and put it in my big block.

I found a brand new brown 309R cap and 409R rotor on eBay, both sealed in their original boxes. I was going to go with Pertronix but decided what the hell, may as well keep it super old school and stick with points. I went with Blue Streak DR2371XP points and Blue Streak DR-70XP condenser based on my engine builders 50 years of experience. I removed the original grease and thoroughly cleaned the entire housing, then polished the distributor shaft and points cam with an emery cloth. The shaft bushings were still in very good shape so I didn't replace those. After reassembly, it was getting way too much centrifugal advance so after some math, I determined I needed to shorten the advance slot by about .064". To solve this I applied a small bit of weld to the slot and used a rasp to file the slot to the determined length of .381", compared to the factory .445". The factory slot was giving it 28* of advance, now I get 18* of advance which suits this engine nicely. 18* initial and 36* total which comes in at an early 2,000rpm. I am not using the vacuum advance and went as far as to put some silicon on the point plate to prevent it from advancing at all. I went with the Moroso advance kit, using one of the lightest advance springs and one of the medium springs. I also installed a brand new Comp Cams composite distributor gear.

Now the L88 wires are right at home on this restored distributor and it really looks like it would have back in the day. It performs great as well! With the amount I use the car, I probably won't have to mess with it too much anyway.

Awesome

olredalert 12-29-2022 02:47 PM

----The epitome of badness! This great Camaro has everything it should and nothing it shouldn't. No gingerbread allowed.....Bill S

1967Z28 12-29-2022 04:44 PM

For me personally, I like the look with the Cragars better but either way, really nice job with the car.

big gear head 12-29-2022 06:19 PM

I can't make up my mind if I like the Cragars or slots best. It looks great with either. I love this car.

Chuck_Burg 12-29-2022 06:41 PM

I like both, obviously... The slots look meaner, the Cragars look classier. I want a different set of front runner 15x4 Cragars. If anyone has a set they'd part ways with, I could be a buyer. The Cragars I have were restored and the guy who restored them put new hoops on them. The holes for the valve stems are not in the correct spot which puts excessive pressure on the valve stem.

Too Many Projects 12-29-2022 06:50 PM

It looks like a street "Panther", on the prowl for it's next drag race meal...:cool2: This is a super cool pic and angle.
Owning another LA, Granada Gold '67, you have set the bar very high for what I hope for with mine.


https://www.yenko.net/forum/attachme...1&d=1672266346

67since67 12-29-2022 07:16 PM

This car takes me back to the mid-late 60's when make it faster was all that mattered, wrinkle wall slicks would make it complete for me. I can picture trolling 4th St. for the next victim.
When the Yenko cars arrived in town we didn't give much notice knowing they were no challenge for our home built hot rods.

Nice work Chuck!

Chuck_Burg 12-29-2022 08:10 PM

Thanks Mitch! It really does look like a wild animal stalking it's next prey.

Thank you for Sharing Bob. Compliments like that from guys who lived it are especially meaningful. I was born in the wrong era, I would've loved seeing stuff like this on the street...

AnthonyS 12-29-2022 08:20 PM

Hear, hear! This car’s a winner IMHO!
Anthony

Chuck_Burg 12-29-2022 09:28 PM

Thanks Anthony!

Too Many Projects 12-29-2022 10:42 PM

For a person too young to have lived the glory days of hundreds of muscle cars roaming the streets, you certainly NAILED the day 2 look, congrats.

My reference to a Panther was a nod to what these cars were called for a long time while in development. Yours being a very early build came close to it.
"On June 28, 1966, the name Panther was officially changed to Camaro."
Interesting article about this here;
https://www.chevyhardcore.com/news/i...-became-of-it/

Chuck_Burg 12-29-2022 11:46 PM

Thanks for sharing! I have read this story before... "What's a Camaro?" "A small, viscous animal that eats Mustangs."

1967Z28 12-30-2022 02:04 AM

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Mustang Eater

Chuck_Burg 01-10-2023 06:14 PM

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couple more pictures of the engine compartment...

cook_dw 01-10-2023 07:49 PM

Looks great. A Mallory Double Life in there would look killer.. :burnout:

big gear head 01-10-2023 08:08 PM

Looks great. The only thing I would change is the thermostat housing. Great job on the fuel line.

Chuck_Burg 01-10-2023 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cook_dw (Post 1610834)
Looks great. A Mallory Double Life in there would look killer.. :burnout:

Haha!!! I saw the one you posted....

Too Many Projects 01-10-2023 08:39 PM

It is a sight to behold, but, maybe hoses on the washer nozzles...they look lonesome, hanging there in mid air...:dunno:

Chuck_Burg 01-10-2023 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Too Many Projects (Post 1610844)
It is a sight to behold, but, maybe hoses on the washer nozzles...they look lonesome, hanging there in mid air...:dunno:

Good eye! Maybe I should just remove them. The wiper motor is not hooked up. The motor is clocked 120* to fit with the valve covers and is just there to block the hole in the firewall. No wiper arms on the car either... The washer bottle is now an overflow for the radiator

Too Many Projects 01-10-2023 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck_Burg (Post 1610852)
Good eye! Maybe I should just remove them. The wiper motor is not hooked up. The motor is clocked 120* to fit with the valve covers and is just there to block the hole in the firewall. No wiper arms on the car either... The washer bottle is now an overflow for the radiator

Leave them, their absence will be noted more than the missing hose. Just run dummy hose from the pump to the nozzles and a rubber cap on the third nipple to complete the image.

cook_dw 01-11-2023 02:48 PM

I would pull the motor and just run a blank black plate over the hole.

Chuck_Burg 01-11-2023 05:15 PM

I thought about making one...


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